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    Deport all illegal aliens.

    1. Deport all illegal aliens.
    2. No earned amnesty.
    3. No guest workers program with path to citizenship.
    4. Fines and jail time for business that hire illegals and confiscate business for expenses.
    5. Prosecute and deport illegals that use stolen or fraudulent I.D., social security numbers.
    6. No automatic citizenship for children of illegal aliens. Redefine oniginal meaning of 14th amendment.
    7. Build the fence or wall, what ever is necessary to stop drugs and illegal aliens.
    8. No social service benefits to illegal aliens.
    10. Enforce immigration laws.
    11. Prosecute law enforcers responsible for the do not enforce immigration laws.
    12. Begin to deport illegal aliens on at a time.
    13. Day workers must be hired through State Employment agency for legal reasons.
    14. Bring troops home form Iraq and put them on the border to protect American and Americans.

    American citizens has had enough and we want to be heard and listened to.Keep bombarding government, local and state officials with our dis-satisfactions. They work for American citizens, us.
    We can and will make a difference. We have to be presistant.
    This is our country and we want a country to pass it down to our children and grand children intact.

    If our representative and leaders won’t do their jobs, then lets find someone that will “do the jobs they will not do” and maybe and cheaper.

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    Many of you guys need a very hard history lesson. During World War 1 and World War 2 while you guys were out fighting against the same powerhouse country you helped get strong. The President of the United States opened up his borders and allowed illegal immagrants to enter his country to fill in the spots of all the service men. So even then you guys relied on illegals to save your asses. Even the governor of California was an immagrant. I don't know if you guys missed the point but the reason why Bush and any other political leader is making such a big issue about the border is because he wants to get your minds off the people dying in Iraq. The borders are secured and I challenge any of you guys to try to cross it. You my friend need to watch the documentary about The Bonus Army and see what your own president did to his own people.

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    Most of us are too painfully aware what this president and past presidents have done to their own People and the People of other nations. Resolving that is part of the challenge before all citizens of this nation.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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    Re: 1. No more illegal aliens.

    Hi Dyehard39,
    Quote Originally Posted by dyehard39
    1. No more illegal aliens.
    Dyehard39, one small point, in your wording of #1. You see what I'm referring to? Need to re-word it to read "1. Deport ALL illegal aliens."

    Senators Kennedy, Rodham, McCain, Cornyn, and others like 'em will interpret "No more" to mean "give em amnesty and citizenship," then they're no longer illegal (but the crime wave, etc. continues). Senators are falling all over themselves to follow Jimmy Carter's lead.

    That just caught my eye, Dyehard39, and i wanted to be the devils advocate in this case. The rest of your message is pretty much how I word my handwritten correspondence to politicians, so I thank you for posting it.

    Coto

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    Re: ignorance

    Good morning, non_ignorant, and welcome to the Alipac website. Well, I'm not a moderator or anything, just a member, but welcome anyway, from just a member.
    Quote Originally Posted by non_ignorant
    you guys....you guys
    You are enlightening us from another place, or another country or somewhere outside the US, or as a representative of one who is outside the US? May I ask what country (without getting too personal)?

    Another question, non_ignorant, if I may ask.... What do you think we, US citizens, should do about our H-1B IT unemployment crisis?. So far, hundreds of thousands of Americans have been fired from jobs that have been awarded to cheap-labor and H-1Bs and indentured H-1Bs. Most of America's IT workers were forced to train their H-1B replacements just prior to being fired. All this is well documented from a multitude of sources. The H-1Bs and their bodyshop masters arrogantly assert that Americans owe them their jobs. Do we "owe them our jobs?"

    What is the basis, non_ignorant, that gives foreign nationals the right to petition the US congress when they, themselves, are neither citizens nor voters? If I went to Mexico, Ecuador, Columbia, India, China, etc, and made demands upon their politicians, I would be jailed.

    I wish to disagree with your fence assertion from the other message thread. I don't have time to post to the website today, but I will document a border fence (that the authorities haven't thought of) that is cheaper than what they propose, and that is proven to work exceedingly well. The liberals will track me down and send people to knock on my door after I post it. I'll try to get to posting it this weekend. You will hate me for it.

    Thank you for joining the Alipac website. Your enlightenment is, ahem, well, it is enlightening.

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    Re: ignorance

    Quote Originally Posted by non_ignorant
    Many of you guys need a very hard history lesson. ... The borders are secured and I challenge any of you guys to try to cross it.
    We know all about who stayed home and ran the war machine. It was not illegal aliens, it was women like Rosie the Riveter. How dare you give credit of that to illegal aliens. I know women that built aircraft and they were not working side by side with illegal aliens. Don't offer me another history lesson.

    We know all about Wag the Dog.

    Did you not see the elephant cross the border? The numbers of illegal entrants is still too darn high. They get caught, released and they do it again until they don't get caught. The border is not secure!

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    LOCAL 2544 - U.S. BORDER PATROL - TUCSON, ARIZONA
    1. Toll Free Line for Members: (800) 581-2544
    Notice: These are not official Agency lines. They are provided solely for our Union members. To contact the Border Patrol please call (877) USBP-HELP. The agency staffs this phone line 24/7. Sorry, but Local 2544 does not have the time or resources to return phone calls from the general public.
    All Rights Reserved
    Welcome. Local 2544 officers are all Border Patrol agents. We represent other Border Patrol agents and non-supervisory employees in the Tucson Sector of the U.S. Border Patrol, covering most of the state of Arizona. We are the largest local in the Border Patrol.
    Local 2544 is proudly affiliated with the Legal Defense Fund, and the law firm of Gattey Baranic LLP. These organizations support our members in administrative, legislative, civil, and criminal matters. Local 2544 was the first local in the nation to offer its members an Administrative Legal Plan utilizing attorneys to represent members in disciplinary actions, grievances and ULP charges. Our attorneys also assist in other types of representation not covered under the Legal Defense Fund plan.
    Next Meeting: December 13, 2006 @ 6 p.m.
    (Notice: Meetings are only open to current Local 2544 members)
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    President Bush, read our lips, NO AMNESTY! Your continuous defeatist rhetoric about "we just can't deport 12 million people" got old about a year ago. Repeating it ad nauseam doesn't make it any more truthful. Secure the border, cut off the jobs and free government handouts, start hammering greedy employers who hire illegal aliens, and watch them make a run for the border.....heading south by the millions. Many of them will "self-deport". If you had this same defeatist attitude about Iraq, Saddam Hussein would still be in power. We're not buying your amnesty sales pitch down here in the real world. Maybe you can explain to us why we're risking our lives to stop the same people you keep encouraging to come in by the millions with your incessant pro-amnesty speeches ("guest-worker", "earned legalization", etc.)
    In 1954 under President Dwight D. Eisenhower the United States Border Patrol, with just over 1,000 agents, was able to remove over 1,000,000 (one million) illegal aliens from the United States. This took approximately one (1) year. It is a documented fact that the vast majority (over 75%) of the illegal aliens who left this country "self deported" when they saw that the American government was serious about enforcing the law. We now have over 10,000 Border Patrol agents in this country. We also have improved communications, and we are able to transport people more efficiently. It should be no problem to send 10,000,000 illegal aliens back home in a year with an aggressive enforcement effort. Those are the plain facts. People can make excuses all day long. However, history proves that this defeatist attitude is dead wrong. Mr. Bush should provide evidence that the task is too large, but he can't. The bottom line is that the people of this country (who are supposed to be running things) want our immigration laws enforced, but many politicians simply lack the will to let us do our jobs properly. What Mr. Bush really means is that he and others lack the intestinal fortitude to see our laws enforced. You might even say it's "hard work" to enforce the laws. As the radical pro-illegal immigration activists like to say, "Si, se puede".

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    our borders are still open. better but still open

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    Thanks for the post Dixie you beat me to it! My Mom and her eight sisters were working during war time, and I can assure you it was NOT with illegals!
    Her brothers were at war and she and her sisters worked here at home doing what needed to be done to support the war effort. This information comes from someone who lived it not someone's Ignorant hear say!!!!

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