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    Did Trump come close to saying Secure the Borders first?

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...al-enterprise/


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    What he was saying sounded a lot less like his earlier "deport all the illegals" and sounds more like Secure the Border First.W

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    Text of your article:

    Exclusive — Donald Trump: ‘Enemy Army’ Drug Cartel Ovens Covering Up Massacres Prove ‘Large Parts of Mexico’ a ‘Criminal Enterprise’

    by Matthew Boyle12 Feb 2016 Washington, DC

    Billionaire Donald Trump, the 2016 GOP presidential frontrunner and winner of the New Hampshire GOP primaries, told Breitbart News exclusively on Thursday that it’s time the United States of America starting treating Mexican drug cartels as if they were an “enemy army” on the other side of the border.

    “We need to treat the drug cartels as though they are an enemy army,” Trump said when asked how we need to handle the cartels in response an explosive new report from Breitbart Texas managing director Brandon Darby and Breitbart Texas reporter Idelfonso Ortiz.

    “An enemy army,” Trump reiterated. “That’s how we ought to treat them.”

    Darby’s report with Ortiz walked through how the cartels committed mass murders of hundreds—maybe thousands of people in cities and towns along Mexico’s border with the United States. Then, to cover up the mass executions, the cartels used a network of ovens to burn the bodies—hiding the evidence of their atrocities from their own government, which hasn’t done much to stop them, and the world.

    Trump told Breitbart News on Thursday as he prepares to barnstorm South Carolina heading into that state’s GOP presidential primaries on February 20:

    Large parts of Mexico is a criminal enterprise. When you look at the drugs that are flowing across the border and the illicit things that are happening at the border, Mexico—large parts of Mexico—are a major illicit business. It’s happening to an extent that people didn’t know until I brought it up. If I didn’t make my speech on June 16, when I talked about the illegal immigration and the crime at the border, we wouldn’t be talking about this today. You wouldn’t be asking me the question. And now the other day Cruz gets up and says ‘we must build a wall’—it’s the first time he’s ever said it. And then Rubio said ‘build a wall.’ Notice, now they all want to build a wall.

    Darby and Ortiz reported the incredible discovery of the cartels’ network of ovens used to cover up their mass murders in a stunning exclusive from the Mexican state of Coahuila. Darby and Ortiz wrote in the exposé:

    The Mexican Los Zetas cartel used a network of oven facilities to cover-up the systematic mass extermination of innocent people during the 2011-2013 period when the cartel had complete governmental control over most of the Mexican state of Coahuila. From the then-governor of Coahuila, down to the city jails, Los Zetas had complete control of every aspect of governmental process and of the lives of Mexican citizens–including news media. Their atrocities in Coahuila have remained largely unreported and undocumented by any governmental agencies—local, state, federal, or international.

    What’s more, they wrote, a series of government officials were corrupt and working for the cartels—rather than for the people of Mexico—during this timeframe, something that hasn’t been widely explored by the media or the government there or the U.S. government. Trump’s focus on the issue is certain to the bring the cartels much unwanted attention. In fact, Trump’s decision to focus on the Mexican criminal networks has reportedly caused Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman to offer a $100 million bounty on Trump’s head.

    “The world’s most wanted and most dangerous drug lord, Joaquin ‘El Chapo’ Guzman, is allegedly offering a US$100 million bounty for whoever delivers billionaire and Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump to him, dead or alive,” Latin American media outlet Telesur reported back in October.

    El Chapo escaped from Mexican prisons at least three times; he was just recaptured in early 2016. During his latest breakaway from prison, El Chapo did an interview with Sean Penn for Rolling Stone magazine—an interview for which Penn faced considerable criticism.

    Trump’s momentum on the campaign trail is undeniable, in large part because of his focus on issues like this—issues that have been virtually ignored by the rest of the candidates and by the media. A win in South Carolina for Trump would be difficult for many of Trump’s opponents to overcome. His decisive win in New Hampshire—where he received more than double the amount of votes of every single one of his opponents—came after a hard-fought second place finish in Iowa’s caucuses to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). Trump is far and away the national polling leader and carries huge leads in most polls, in almost all individual states from here on out.

    Trump confirmed in this interview with Breitbart News that he understands his pathway to victory—not just for the GOP nomination but for the general election, should he be so fortunate as to be the GOP nominee—rests with him remaining true to the core messages of his campaign: A brute force nationalist populism that he’s ridden to the top of the polls.

    After Cruz’s stunning comeback victory in Iowa—where Trump was leading in final polling heading into election—Trump returned to the core messages of his campaign in New Hampshire and won a resounding victory. In the eight days between Iowa’s caucuses and New Hampshire’s primaries, Trump mostly focused on issues like trade policy, immigration policy, police issues, and national security matters—all mixed together with the economy—and that’s a pathway to success he plans to replicate heading into the final 10 days before South Carolina’s first-in-the-South GOP primary and Nevada’s first-in-the-West GOP caucuses a few days afterward.

    Exit polls coming out of New Hampshire showed that vast majorities of voters agree with Trump’s positions on immigration—especially his call for a temporary ban on Muslim migration to America. More on that, and other topics, is forthcoming from Trump’s latest post-New Hampshire, pre-South Carolina exclusive interview with Breitbart News.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...al-enterprise/
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    The CNN video in your link:

    Donald Trump Interview with Anderson Cooper on "AC360" (July 8, 2015)

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    The CNN video in your link is from July 8, 2015, before he said he would create a deportation force and get them out of here in 2 years or less. They talk about a lot of things, click forward until you get to the part on illegal aliens.
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    Billionaire Donald Trump, the 2016 GOP presidential frontrunner and winner of the New Hampshire GOP primaries, told Breitbart News exclusively on Thursday that it’s time the United States of America starting treating Mexican drug cartels as if they were an “enemy army” on the other side of the border.

    “We need to treat the drug cartels as though they are an enemy army,” Trump said when asked how we need to handle the cartels in response an explosive new report from Breitbart Texas managing director Brandon Darby and Breitbart Texas reporter Idelfonso Ortiz.

    “An enemy army,” Trump reiterated. “That’s how we ought to treat them.”
    I agree 100%. Troops to the Borders Jan 20, 2017. Suck on that, Mexico. Say "bye bye" to every dime of the $240 billion a year that leaves our country in drug money just over the Southern Border and that was as of years ago based on a US Congressional Report called "The Southwest Border: Lines in the Sand". I posted it years ago. Maybe it's still in our archives somewhere.
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    And now the other day Cruz gets up and says ‘we must build a wall’—it’s the first time he’s ever said it.
    Absolutely not true. Cruz has spoken up, filed amendments, etc. to complete a border fence. All of this has happened before Donald Trump ever came into the picture. Unless Trump actually tells us he's going to build a brick and mortar wall like the Great Wall of China, it can only be assumed he's calling the fence a wall for added appeal and impact.

    January 4, 2016
    Did Donald Trump get the idea for a border fence from Ted Cruz?

    By Ed Straker

    Donald Trump claims that Ted Cruz is copying his idea of building a border fence, but the reality may be the opposite. First, here's what Trump says:

    Well, first of all, his plan just happened, OK? In fact, I was watching the other day. And I was watching Ted talk. And he said, 'We will build a wall.' The first time I've ever heard him say it," he continued. "And my wife, who was sitting next to me, said, 'Oh, look. He's copying what you've been saying for a long period of time.'"


    But if we go back to May 9, 2013, we find that Ted Cruz was not only speaking in favor of a border fence, but pushing hard for it legislatively:

    A Senate committee rejected an immigration-legislation amendment offered by Sen. Ted Cruz today that would have added significant security resources along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    The amendment proposed tripling the number of Border Patrol agents stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border and quadrupling equipment, “including cameras, sensors, drones and helicopters,” within three years. And the 700 miles of border fence required by a 2006 law would need to be finished.

    And what was Donald Trump talking about during this time? Not a border fence, that's for sure. Instead, just a few months earlier, Trump was saying that Mitt Romney's self-deportation program was "mean-spirited," further adding
    :

    The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.


    In fact, as recently as June of 2015, Trump was still talking about amnesty for illegal aliens:

    You don't have to go back far to find a pro-amnesty statement from the No. 1 defender of deportation. At the end of June, speaking to the press in Chicago and after saying he "heard you probably have 30 million" illegal aliens in America, Trump contended:


    "You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast."


    That's "path" as in "path to citizenship," not a path to exit the country via our southern border. And it's clear he was referring to the bulk of the millions of aliens. The "bad ones" he would deport he depicts as a minority of the illegals. How small a minority is wide open to speculation


    So if you go back in time, it was Cruz, not Trump, who first pushed a border fence not just with rhetoric, but with legislation, and it was Trump who started talking about the need for a border fence after Cruz started pushing for it. Because up to then, Trump was a pro-amnesty liberal democrat.

    That's the problem with criticizing the history of other candidates when your own history of conservatism goes back only six months. Cruz has not had a perfect history on immigration – he has pushed increased H1-B visas in the past, for example – but he has never pushed amnesty for illegal aliens as Trump did.

    So Cruz, who was pushing the idea of a border fence while Trump was still a pro-amnesty liberal democrat, was the first to bring this idea to the forefront, and Trump came later. Trump criticizing Cruz on his history regarding border security is just as ironic as criticizing Cruz for not being sufficiently religious.


    Exit question: When Ted Cruz comes home, do you think his wife says, "I saw Donald Trump on TV talking about a border fence, and he sounded just like you"?




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    Sorry, William, didn't intend on changing the subject of your post. Just didn't want the inaccuracy I identified to slip by.

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    Glad to learn that video is an older one from before he promised to deport all illegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Glad to learn that video is an older one from before he promised to deport all illegals.

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    Yes, and it was also about 2 months before he posted his more detailed immigration plan on his website which was in September. His deportation force and mass deportations within 2 years comments came after that, maybe late October, early November. That's also about the time he started mentioning that potential immigrants waiting in line already to come in would be considered before any illegal aliens that might be "good ones" could return, which was after he had already posted his "halt/pause" immigration on his website. You have to study the progression of how he won over support for the final end game. He did it in stages over a period of months. And it worked really well. The majority of Americans now want the wall, mass deportations and a halt on new immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Absolutely not true. Cruz has spoken up, filed amendments, etc. to complete a border fence. All of this has happened before Donald Trump ever came into the picture. Unless Trump actually tells us he's going to build a brick and mortar wall like the Great Wall of China, it can only be assumed he's calling the fence a wall for added appeal and impact.

    January 4, 2016
    Did Donald Trump get the idea for a border fence from Ted Cruz?

    By Ed Straker

    Donald Trump claims that Ted Cruz is copying his idea of building a border fence, but the reality may be the opposite. First, here's what Trump says:

    Well, first of all, his plan just happened, OK? In fact, I was watching the other day. And I was watching Ted talk. And he said, 'We will build a wall.' The first time I've ever heard him say it," he continued. "And my wife, who was sitting next to me, said, 'Oh, look. He's copying what you've been saying for a long period of time.'"


    But if we go back to May 9, 2013, we find that Ted Cruz was not only speaking in favor of a border fence, but pushing hard for it legislatively:

    A Senate committee rejected an immigration-legislation amendment offered by Sen. Ted Cruz today that would have added significant security resources along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    The amendment proposed tripling the number of Border Patrol agents stationed along the U.S.-Mexico border and quadrupling equipment, “including cameras, sensors, drones and helicopters,” within three years. And the 700 miles of border fence required by a 2006 law would need to be finished.

    And what was Donald Trump talking about during this time? Not a border fence, that's for sure. Instead, just a few months earlier, Trump was saying that Mitt Romney's self-deportation program was "mean-spirited," further adding
    :

    The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.


    In fact, as recently as June of 2015, Trump was still talking about amnesty for illegal aliens:

    You don't have to go back far to find a pro-amnesty statement from the No. 1 defender of deportation. At the end of June, speaking to the press in Chicago and after saying he "heard you probably have 30 million" illegal aliens in America, Trump contended:


    "You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast."


    That's "path" as in "path to citizenship," not a path to exit the country via our southern border. And it's clear he was referring to the bulk of the millions of aliens. The "bad ones" he would deport he depicts as a minority of the illegals. How small a minority is wide open to speculation


    So if you go back in time, it was Cruz, not Trump, who first pushed a border fence not just with rhetoric, but with legislation, and it was Trump who started talking about the need for a border fence after Cruz started pushing for it. Because up to then, Trump was a pro-amnesty liberal democrat.

    That's the problem with criticizing the history of other candidates when your own history of conservatism goes back only six months. Cruz has not had a perfect history on immigration – he has pushed increased H1-B visas in the past, for example – but he has never pushed amnesty for illegal aliens as Trump did.

    So Cruz, who was pushing the idea of a border fence while Trump was still a pro-amnesty liberal democrat, was the first to bring this idea to the forefront, and Trump came later. Trump criticizing Cruz on his history regarding border security is just as ironic as criticizing Cruz for not being sufficiently religious.


    Exit question: When Ted Cruz comes home, do you think his wife says, "I saw Donald Trump on TV talking about a border fence, and he sounded just like you"?




    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz403cnR8iU

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