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    It has been happening so slow that no one noticed what was going on. The chances of this changing are not good. We are not living in a democracy, this is socialism. We are not free.

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    I thank you 2nd as I will your family too (please pass on).

    Unfortunately I don't think you read what I was against.....Jim slammed into America to give up because that is what happened before....And I am totally against the laws that weaken us in the USA.

    You 2nd as well as I know what our families went through to get here as mine did too. My family was a wealthy landowner in Prussia and had to flee due to fascists and socialism there....but we did good in America -- and still do today!!

    What I am offended by is what Jim posted......"We did it before so get over it"!! I can't do that and won't do that 2nd......

    I had a great uncle that perished fighting Nazi's in Africa...Two movies made of that time...best was the first "Saraha".....His name was Clarkson...so is mine.....I won't give up....sorry....I love my country too much!

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    What I am offended by is what Jim posted......"We did it before so get over it"!! I can't do that and won't do that 2nd......


    DIVER.......I can't find the above post that you mentioned. That might be part of our communication problem. Please point it out to me? I've not read that anywhere.

    And NO........of course we won't give up! Shoot, giving up isn't in my gene pool, lol.
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    Thank your 2nd...and I really do appreciate what you are saying....but hear me....

    I have been on too many boards not to recognize the ones that want to poison us.....and Jim is doing that by showing that our Congress is against American's willl....this is what offends me.

    Another board I am on repels these creeps and they don't come back. We are not as big as ALi-PAC but we are one....American's!!

    Currently I need real Americans to read our History as I posted many times....History may repeat itself, but that does not mean those of us here have to repeat it....but learn so we can replel it......

    It was hard during my military time to serve...not only did I loose my fellow country men...I lost my family too. (1973-2003). When the terorrists attcked I signed up for more (against my friends and family).....but they were so screwed up here, they didn't know what was up or down and neither did us in the military!!l lol!

    DiverMike -- Proud American....just trying,,,,

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    From the very beginning of this great country. The tight knit family structure made us strong as a country. But once the family structure started breaking apart. A slow domino effect started taking place. I finally get it, this has the plan all along, right? Large families became a thing of the past and single familes emerged. Schools started taking away arts and the pledge of allegiance moved. Our values have erroded to the point were, we're now a nation of division. For years I felt that there was no difference between the two political parties. Just puppets to large business. When prop. 187 was overturned. My views about our policical system changed dramatically forever. It sent a clear message that my vote does not count. And that any judge with enough power can take your vote away in an instant. The slow steady procees to break down our country has been in place for a long time. I finally get it...
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    More Voter Fraud!

    I did a quick search and didn't see this article anywhere here. If I missed it, I apologize in advance for the duplicate.

    http://uncooperativeblogger.com/2006/11 ... ter-fraud/

    More Voter fraud!
    by The Uncooperative Blogger on 11-07-06 @ 11:30 am MT.
    Filed under U.S. News & Politics, Illegal Immigration, Democrats & The Left, Elections
    From WND:

    Stop the presses! I mean it. Stop the election!

    Something is going on in Washington and California that will have a great impact on tomorrow’s election — and it stinks to high heaven.

    Let me start by telling you how I found out about it.

    A very good friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, has a long-time live-in housekeeper from Guatemala. The housekeeper has a daughter who just turned 18. The immigration status of both mother and daughter has been pending for years. Papers have been filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Hearings have been held. But they are not citizens.

    This is very important: The daughter has not registered to vote.

    But, a few days ago, the 18-year-old got a very attractively packaged “Dear friend” letter from Bill Clinton, paid for by the California Democratic Party.

    Here’s what it said (on one side in Spanish and on the other side in English): “While every election is important, the November 7th election will determine our future for the next decade, and beyond. The stakes are high for America’s Latino families. And California is the critical battleground.

    “That’s why I’m writing. We need your help to elect a Democratic Congress.

    “Despite our strong economy, many hard-working people still struggle to make ends meet. Quality, affordable health care, a world-class education, aging with dignity, and well-paid jobs are part of the American dream — rather than an American reality — for too many people.

    “Electing a Democratic Congress is essential for our ‘Families First’ legislative agenda.

    “Congratulations on your decision to register. Registering to vote is a basic responsibility of citizenship that far too many people ignore.

    “Now that you are registered …

    * “Can I count on you to vote Democratic on November 7th?

    * “Will you make an extra effort to elect Democrats to Congress — and to your State Legislature — by talking to your family, friends and neighbors?

    “Remember: Your Vote is Your Voice.

    “Su Voz, Es Su Voto. Make your voice heard on Election Day.

    “Sincerely, President Bill Clinton”

    Below that letter is a P.S. that explains: “Here is your personal Voter Identification Card. Sign your name, then detach your card. Bring your card with you to your polling place on Election Day. It will help your voting go more smoothly.”

    Apparently all the recipient needs to do with this Voter Identification Card is sign it to be eligible to vote. Keep in mind, this was sent to a previously unregistered voter.

    As my friend points out, only the U.S. government knows her age and pending residency status, and, obviously her Latino background. How did this information wind up in the partisan political hands of the California Democratic Party? And what kind of impact will a mailing like this — obviously utilizing a government database for political purposes — have on the California legislative races? How widespread is this fraud?

    Do I even have to tell you how wrong this is? This is an unregistered hispanic NON-CITIZEN! This person can now just show up and vote!

    Between this and all the other fraud going on this early in the election, I cannot imagine this election can stand. Well, unless the Democrats win and then I bet you will hear nothing about voting machine problems, vandalism, and disenfranchising Republican voters.

    This is just ridiculous, there is nothing left that is good in politics. All this has gone beyond politics, this is amoral criminal behavior!

    **This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.

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    The ABOVE is from Joseph Farah's column!

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    Voter fraud, again!

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    Posted: November 6, 2000
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=15082


    Stop the presses! I mean it. Stop the election!

    Something is going on in Washington and California that will have a great impact on tomorrow's election -- and it stinks to high heaven.

    Let me start by telling you how I found out about it.

    A very good friend of mine, who shall remain nameless, has a long-time live-in housekeeper from Guatemala. The housekeeper has a daughter who just turned 18. The immigration status of both mother and daughter has been pending for years. Papers have been filed with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Hearings have been held. But they are not citizens.

    This is very important: The daughter has not registered to vote.

    But, a few days ago, the 18-year-old got a very attractively packaged "Dear friend" letter from Bill Clinton, paid for by the California Democratic Party.

    Here's what it said (on one side in Spanish and on the other side in English): "While every election is important, the November 7th election will determine our future for the next decade, and beyond. The stakes are high for America's Latino families. And California is the critical battleground.

    "That's why I'm writing. We need your help to elect a Democratic Congress.

    "Despite our strong economy, many hard-working people still struggle to make ends meet. Quality, affordable health care, a world-class education, aging with dignity, and well-paid jobs are part of the American dream -- rather than an American reality -- for too many people.

    "Electing a Democratic Congress is essential for our 'Families First' legislative agenda.

    "Congratulations on your decision to register. Registering to vote is a basic responsibility of citizenship that far too many people ignore.

    "Now that you are registered ...


    "Can I count on you to vote Democratic on November 7th?

    "Will you make an extra effort to elect Democrats to Congress -- and to your State Legislature -- by talking to your family, friends and neighbors?
    "Remember: Your Vote is Your Voice.

    "Su Voz, Es Su Voto. Make your voice heard on Election Day.

    "Sincerely, President Bill Clinton"


    Clinton letter in English. Click for full size.


    Below that letter is a P.S. that explains: "Here is your personal Voter Identification Card. Sign your name, then detach your card. Bring your card with you to your polling place on Election Day. It will help your voting go more smoothly."

    Apparently all the recipient needs to do with this Voter Identification Card is sign it to be eligible to vote. Keep in mind, this was sent to a previously unregistered voter.

    As my friend points out, only the U.S. government knows her age and pending residency status, and, obviously her Latino background. How did this information wind up in the partisan political hands of the California Democratic Party? And what kind of impact will a mailing like this -- obviously utilizing a government database for political purposes -- have on the California legislative races? How widespread is this fraud?

    This is making my head spin. The recipient of this letter happens to live in congressional and state legislative districts that are very hotly contested in Southern California. But this appears to be a statewide mailing from the Democratic Party headquarters in Sacramento.

    It's mind-boggling. The fraud is so blatant. Yet, not a peep out of the Republicans. They apparently won't even know what hit them. The polls in recent days show them making big gains in this once-invulnerable Al Gore stronghold state. A mass mailing like this effectively registering tens of thousands of potential Democratic voters days before the election is a secret weapon held back deliberately to avoid detection, scrutiny and publicity. After the election, the party will be happy to pay a fine for any illegalities involved. Clinton will be out of office and untouchable as always. There will be a new regime in at the INS. And it will all be swept under the rug.

    And who knows if this technique is not being deployed by other state Democratic Party units? I don't doubt it for a minute.

    This is voter fraud, pure and simple. And those responsible include the president of the United States, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, possibly the Census Bureau and certainly the California Democratic Party.

    I'm outraged. Are you?

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    Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators Syndicate. His latest book is "Taking America Back." He also edits the weekly online intelligence newsletter Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, in which he utilizes his sources developed over 30 years in the news business.
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