Thread: DREAM lobby whinning about vote.

This battle may be over for this week, but we cannot walk away from the fight. Congress must not let the small but vocal minority thwart the will of 70 percent of Americans who believe in the DREAM Act
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since when did 70 percent want this to pass? me thinks someones been drinking the obama Koolaid again

http://reformimmigrationforamerica(dot)org/blog/blog/what-next-call-senators-to-say-you-are-watching/

Today, a vote in the Senate blocked action on the DREAM Act as an amendment to the Defense Reauthorization bill. The fact that this vote was even possible is a testament to the strength of our movement.

Alongside DREAMers who lead the fight for the DREAM Act, we demonstrated our power by mobilizing overwhelming support from every part of the county.

The intensity of support for the DREAM Act was simply amazing. In just over 5 days, 70 events in 26 states, along with over 50,000 calls and 90,000 faxes.

Now that, my friends, is a movement.

Today’s outcome is sad, it’s frustrating, it’s angering and it’s unjust. But we still have work to do and this fight is far from over. If you’re like me, you’re asking yourself – what next? The first step (in many to come) is to call your own Senator and either than them for doing the right thing, or tell them they sold us out and you are watching.

The numbers below will automatically route you to your own Senator. Use the lists after the jump to know where your Senator stood. One note: Senator Harry Reid voted “NOâ€

Numbers pulled out of the air, once again. 70% for the Dream Act? I don'tthink so.

If the Dream Act was a good piece of legislation it will stand on it's own merits and not attached to necessary military funding bills. Where are the Democrats willing to bring this bill (on it's own) to the Senate floor? They're not there because they want to keep their jobs.

And another thing, no 19 year-old who came here a year ago should be considered a child and quoted in the article posted. Who makes this media garbage up?

By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer Anne Flaherty, Associated Press Writer – 1 min ago
WASHINGTON – Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked an effort by Democrats and the White House to lift the ban on gays from serving openly in the military, voting unanimously against advancing a major defense policy bill that included the provision.

The mostly partisan vote dealt a major blow to gay rights groups who saw the legislation as their best hope, at least in the short term, for repeal of the 17-year-old law known as "don't ask, don't tell."

If Democrats lose seats in the upcoming congressional elections this fall, as many expect, repealing the ban could prove even more difficult — if not impossible — next year. The Senate could take up the measure again during a lame-duck session after the elections, but a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he hasn't decided whether to do so.

"The whole thing is a political train wreck," said Richard Socarides, a White House adviser on gay rights during the Clinton administration.

Democrats included the repeal provision in a $726 billion defense policy bill, which authorizes a pay raise for the troops among other popular programs. In a deal brokered with the White House, the measure would have overturned the 1993 law banning openly gay service only after a Pentagon review and certification from the president that lifting the ban wouldn't hurt troop morale.

But with little time left for debate before the November ballot, the bill had languished on the Senate calendar until gay rights groups, backed by pop star Lady Gaga, began an aggressive push to turn it into an election issue.

Earlier this month a federal judge in Los Angeles declared the ban an unconstitutional violation of the due process and free speech rights of gays and lesbians. The decision was the third federal court ruling since July to assert that statutory limits on the rights of gays and lesbians were unconstitutional.

Reid agreed to force a vote on the bill this week and limit debate, despite Republican objections. A Nevada Democrat in a tight race of his own this fall, he also pledged to use the defense bill as a vehicle for an immigration proposal that would enable young people to qualify for U.S. citizenship if they joined the military.

Republicans alleged that Reid was using the defense bill to score political points with the Democratic base.

"This is not a serious exercise. It's a show," said Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

Democrats countered that the bill merely reflects public opinion. Recent polls suggest that a majority of Americans think the ban on gays in the military should be overturned.

"We're going to fight for this," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

But at least for now, the question of how and when to change the policy returns to the Pentagon, which had set a December deadline to complete a study of the effects of lifting the ban. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said that he supports President Barack Obama's goal of repeal, but Gates made it clear he thought the process should move gradually.
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So, open border promoters quote polls for don't ask don't tell, but not for opposition to illegals? Craven, lying, two-faced pond scum---with apologies to pond scum.

The oppostion is now weakned .. this has been a serious set back for them ..

even with almost complete main stream media black out , they STILL couldn't manage to sneek this in ......


So now we return to the status quo ... after the election season they won't EVER have the chance to bring this up again ...

now we must go on the offensive and push for greater internal policing ..

WE WON FOR A MINUTE BUT DIRTY HARRY WHO VOTED AGAINST THE DEFENSE BILL (ALL ALONG HE WAS GOING TO VOTE IT DOWN) . THE REASON HE VOTED THE BILL DOWN IS BECAUSE AFTER THE ELECTION HE WILL AND CAN BRING IT TO THE FLOOR AGAIN AND ALL THE DEFEATED DEMS WITH NOTHING ELSE TO LOSE, WILL VOTE TO PASS THE DREAM ACT. THEY ARE SO VILE AND UNDER HANDED. I CAN SAY I HATE WHAT THEY STAND FOR AND THE POLICIES THAT THEY ARE SHOVING DOWN ARE THROATS.

Originally Posted by Huddy

WE WON FOR A MINUTE BUT DIRTY HARRY WHO VOTED AGAINST THE DEFENSE BILL (ALL ALONG HE WAS GOING TO VOTE IT DOWN) . THE REASON HE VOTED THE BILL DOWN IS BECAUSE AFTER THE ELECTION HE WILL AND CAN BRING IT TO THE FLOOR AGAIN AND ALL THE DEFEATED DEMS WITH NOTHING ELSE TO LOSE, WILL VOTE TO PASS THE DREAM ACT. THEY ARE SO VILE AND UNDER HANDED. I CAN SAY I HATE WHAT THEY STAND FOR AND THE POLICIES THAT THEY ARE SHOVING DOWN ARE THROATS.

Welcome Huddy to ALIPAC. Let not your heart be troubled. I believe that when the conservatives take control in January, they will reverse this BS, but it may take a couple of years until Ocrapa leaves office.

Their whining is music to my ears.

The The Dream Act is really a nightmare. What the so-called dreamers are doing is voting themselves special benefits and then sending the bill to the citizens. The voters aren't that stupid. They won't tolerate it. As for passing it after they lose in November, if that happens then there will be a revolt. Either way they lose.