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    Dream ACT-ivists plot strategy

    Friday, March 27, 2009
    History in the Making
    Today the DREAM Act was reintroduced in both the Senate and the House of Representatives, a sign that Washington is ready to move on the issue of immigration with the intention of bringing about real change, as promised.

    The specifics of the act will be released after the government printing office has received the full text of the bill, but right now we do know that it is similar to the version of the bill which was defeated a few years ago after cloture could not be invoked.

    Right now I would like to say that it is good to see that the sponsors of the bill are Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) and Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) in the Senate, and Representative Howard Berman (D-CA) in the House of Representatives.

    Senators Kennedy (D-MA), Martinez (R-FL), Reid (D-NV), Leahy (D-VT), Lieberman (I-CT), and Feingold (D-WI) have all signed on as co-sponsors in the Senate. It is expected that Senators Kerry (D-MA), McCaskill (D-MO), McCain (R-AZ), and others might also sign on at some point in the near future.

    In the House, co-sponsors include Representatives Roybal-Allard (D-CA), Polis (D-CO), Conyers (D-MI), Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL), Cao (R-LA), Nuñes (R-CA), Ross-Lehtinen (R-FL), Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL) and Lofgran (D-CA).

    Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Hoyer have not yet indicated their position on the bill, and some are concerned about their support because Majority Leader Hoyer has told some in the caucus that he would like to see this bill passed together with the Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) legislation later this year. However, Speaker Pelosi has not yet indicated that she would be unwilling to consider this bill separate from CIR, and so many are hopeful.

    Another good sign for the DREAM Act is the support from Senator Leahy and Representative Conyers. Both are Chairmen of their respective Judiciary Committee, and that will be important moving forward as the bill is considered in committee. The House version of the bill was referred to the Education Subcommittee, but Conyers' support no doubt has significant sway.

    I will keep you updated as the specifics of the bill are released and as Senate and House Whip Counts are released to the public. The first mock-whip-count we have indicates the following level of support for S.729:

    53 Yea
    26 Nay
    20 Undecided
    1 Vacant

    The undecided votes are as follows:

    Senator Specter of Pennsylvania
    Senator Hagan of North Carolina
    Senator McCaskill of Missouri (she is undecided only because she hasn't clearly stated)
    Senator Begich of Alaska (likely a yea)
    Senator Conrad of North Dakota (voted nay last time)
    Senator Hutchinson of Texas
    Senator Graham of South Carolina (voted nay last time, but as McCain goes...)
    Senator Murkowski of Alaska
    Senator Pryor of Arkansas
    Senator Voinovich of Ohio
    Senator Gregg of New Hampshire
    Senator Landrieu of Louisiana
    Senator Grassley of Nebraska
    Senator Lincoln of Arkansas
    Senator Nelson of Nebraska
    Senator Bennett of Utah
    Senator Byrd of West Virginia
    Senator Tester of Montana
    Senator Baucus of Montana
    Senator Dorgan of North Dakota

    We need to pick up seven of these votes to pass the DREAM Act. The one vacant seat is Senator-Elect Franken of Minnesota, who would vote yes, pushing us to 54 votes in favor.

    I think Senators Graham (R-SC), McCaskill (D-MO), Begich (D-AK), Bennett (R-UT), Voinovich (R-OH), and Nelson (D-NE) are most likely to come our way.

    Tester, Baucus, Dorgan, and Conrad are almost certainly lost causes, since they are from states where immigration is a negatively-polled issue. Same goes for Hagan of North Carolina, both Senators from Arkansas, and Landrieu of Louisiana. Hutchinson may jump to our side if she thinks it will help her Gubernatorial bid in 2010.

    We have a long way to go; a lot will depend on how well Senator Reid can hold the party together, how much sway Senator Kennedy holds, whether Senator McCain signs on as a co-sponsor, and whether the President decides to use the fact that his coattails proved so long in 2008 to force Senators like Bagich and Hagan to get in line. Another factor of importance is whether retiring Republicans such as Gregg, Voinovich, and (perhaps) Hutchinson, decide that they don't care about the Senate Republican Caucus' desires on the matter and break with the party. The same goes for Specter who might just want to piss off the party that is going to defeat him in a primary in 2010 by joining with a President and his party who won his state overwhelmingly...
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    PSST! Need a link.
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    The opposition is gearin up.

    In Spirit of Bipartisanship, DREAM Act reintroduced in Congress
    March 27th, 2009 · 7 Comments

    Yesterday, the DREAM Act was reintroduced in both the Senate and the House. In the spirit of bipartisanship and showing a commitment to youth seeking to advance themselves here in the US, Senators Lugar (R-IN) and Durbin (D-IL) introduced the bill in the upper house, while Reps. Berman (D-CA) and L. Diaz Balart (R-FL) introduced the house version.

    As Seneca has mentioned before, the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act (DREAM) would assist young, undocumented immigrants in earning legal status by completing a college education or military service. The legal status won’t be awarded for nothing, these youth will have to earn that opportunity. It is reported that the Senate version is outlining the following eligibility requirements:

    “To be eligible, a child must have been under the age of 16 when they entered the country and be physically present in the United States for at least five years immediately preceding the date of this measure becoming law; have earned a high school diploma or GED; be a person of good moral character; and not be inadmissible or deportable under criminal or security grounds of the Immigration and Nationality Act.â€

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    Since when can illegal / undocumented immigrants vote?

    3. EMAIL - Change.org has a page to help you email your congressional representatives in support of the DREAM Act.
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    Why do you want to deny kids who are highly motivated an opportunity to live the American dream? And what is the benefit of denying this select group of youth an education? The US already imports a lot of highly technical professionals on H1B visas. Why not train the people who are motivated here and have them become fully contributing members to our society?

    Highly-motivated kids have already had the opportunity of living the American dream, while we spend precious tax dollars giving them basic education. We really don't owe them anything more, since undoubtedly we have paid for food stamps, medical care, etc. for the entire family.
    Yes we import a lot of workers on visas, but the keyword here is VISAS!
    Why does it seem that little fact of law gets continually swept aside.
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    What about the displaced American students and workers? We are fighting for them here @ ALIPAC.
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    The DREAM Act has been introduced in both US House and Senate. I know it is in the Senate Judiciary Committee. Here are the members:

    Patrick J. Leahy
    Chairman, D-Vermont
    Biography
    Herb Kohl
    D-Wisconsin
    Biography

    Arlen Specter
    Ranking Member, R-Pennsylvania
    Biography

    Dianne Feinstein
    D-California
    Biography

    Orrin G. Hatch
    R-Utah
    Biography

    Russell D. Feingold
    D-Wisconsin
    Biography

    Charles E. Grassley
    R-Iowa
    Biography

    Charles E. Schumer
    D-New York
    Biography

    Jon Kyl
    R-Arizona
    Biography

    Richard J. Durbin
    D-Illinois
    Biography

    Jeff Sessions
    R-Alabama
    Biography

    Benjamin L. Cardin
    D-Maryland
    Biography

    Lindsey Graham
    R-South Carolina
    Biography

    Sheldon Whitehouse
    D-Rhode Island
    Biography

    John Cornyn
    R-Texas
    Biography

    Ron Wyden
    D-Oregon
    Biography

    Tom Coburn
    R-Oklahoma
    Biography

    Amy Klobuchar
    D-Minnesota
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    Edward E. Kaufman
    D-Delaware
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    You might tell them that foreign citizens should not be lobbying OUR Congress.
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    Lets give em' an earful!!!

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    I'm going to raise the issue of lobbying on behalf of foreign principals to our Congressional representatives. This is typically done on an organization-wide level--and the organizations promoting it might be in violation, too.
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    For Americans it's massive layoffs, loss of thier homes, their savings, and their retirement plans plus fear for their futures. But it's benefits for illegal aliens and their progeny. All courtesy of President Quisling & Co.

    Make no mistake about it, those state legislators are taking their cues from Obama.

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