Thread: EMERGENCY ALERT ! ! !

This is total insanity and total PC BS! STOP FEELING GUILTY FOR WHAT YOUR HEART AND GUT AND MORALS TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me tell you this! Anyone that messes with my kids is going to pray that they make it to court!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EMERGENCY ALERT ! ! !

FEDERAL HATE BILL NOW POSES HUGE DANGER!

By Rev. Ted Pike


Freedom of speech in America is threatened as never before. Passage of the federal "anti-hate" bill will lead directly to an end of free speech in America. This is what happened under similar legislation in Canada and many European nations. Without free speech, all our other freedoms will eventually vanish.


Hate Laws End Free Speech


Sen. Edward Kennedy fumbled his attempts last fall to pass the Orwellian federal "anti-hate" bill. (See, " Federal Hate Bill Virtually Dead") Yet on Larry King Live last week Kennedy vowed he is poised to address the Senate, again urging its passage. He is anxious to call for a vote to attach his hate bill, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, S. 1145, to the long-delayed Sex Offenders Registration and Notification Act, S.1086. He wants to do so just as soon as S.1086 is introduced in the Senate.

35 years ago the Canadian Parliament passed its very similar anti-hate law, the Canadian Human Rights Act. Now Canadians who publicly criticize the behavior or beliefs of members of specially protected groups can be punished with harsh fines and imprisonment. Christians who publicly criticize homosexuality or print Scriptural texts against sodomy are being indicted as hate criminals. They are being bankrupted and exhausted as they fight for freedom in the hate crimes "tribunal" courts. Broadcasters or talk show hosts who criticize homosexuality or even state that homosexuals have a higher rate of AIDS can be arrested, fined $10,000, and spend up to five years in prison. The radio or TV station that allows them such "hate speech" will lose its broadcast license. (See, “ New Federal ‘Hate’ Bill Means Funeral of Free Speech”)


Can Kennedy Win?


Can Kennedy and his pro-hate bill Senators muster enough votes to pass the hate bill?

Here's the reality: Nearly two years ago the Senate voted 65 to 33 in favor of Kennedy's hate bill.

Kennedy knows that most of the Senate is still on his side.

Last September the traditionally conservative House of Representatives passed the hate bill, Amdt. 2662, in only 45 minutes! It was attached as a rider to the Children's Safety Act. Kennedy boasted to Larry King that the Senate will also pass it in 45 minutes to an hour.

If passed by the Senate in the days ahead, Kennedy's hate bill will go to conference between the Senate and the House and, if approved, on to the President.


Kennedy Blocked by Frist


Until now Senate majority leader Bill Frist has prevented Kennedy from rising to his feet, orating, and demanding passage of the hate bill. He has done this through a very simple strategy: keeping the Sex Offenders bill out of the Senate for the past two sessions.

Yet Frist is under increasing pressure to pass this much-needed, pro-family, anti-pedophile legislation. I was told by Frist's office that a number of stratagems to obtain passage are available to him.

Yet the danger is very great. They could backfire.

Kennedy pro-hate bill allies, especially Sen. Gordon Smith and Sen. Arlen Specter, are on high alert. Upon any attempt to introduce the Sex Offenders bill, they will demand to speak to the Senate, calling for attachment and approval of the hate bill.


What Happens if the Hate Bill Passes?


Should the bill pass, will House Republicans have enough resolve to defeat it in conference? Don't count on it. They presented no significant opposition in the House last September.

What about a veto by George Bush? The President has said he will support "modified hate crimes legislation." If he approves this bill, America will be governed by a federal anti-hate law with no checks or balances – unlike the Constitution or Bill of Rights. Let's consider what that means.

Our ancestral, time-proven code of law requires demonstrable physical proof that a crime has been committed. This keeps our justice system relatively simple, workable, and speedy. It provides adequate penalties for all crimes, including those motivated by hate.

In the federal hate law, however, the requirement of determining the level of "bias" in a hate crimes case makes hate crimes law enforcement very subjective, complicated and time consuming. The average cost in Canada of defending oneself from a hate crimes charge is very high: $175,000 to $200,000.

Amazingly, truth is no defense in Canada. If members of specially protected groups, especially homosexuals, claim they have been emotionally traumatized by public criticism, they are encouraged to file charges against their critics. In the eyes of the law it is irrelevant whether criticism against them is true. The paramount issue is whether the feelings of a member of a protected group have been hurt. If the court determines that such is the case, a "hate crime" has occurred.

The ultimate effect of federal hate laws is not to defend certain groups from intimidation but to intimidate those who speak candidly or critically. Free speech is dead.


Federal Takeover of Local Law Enforcement


S.1145 usurps state rights in law enforcement. It will require states to submit to the working federal definition that "hate" equals bias against protected groups. If S.1145 passes, states can no longer punish hate crimes according to traditional law. They must submit to the skewed government definition of hate and hate crimes including triple penalties against those convicted. S.1145 gives the federal government the right to intervene in the states not only for alleged bias crimes but for felonies. The government can also intervene and presumably overthrow the verdict in a hate crimes trial if it does not agree with it. (See, Pike’s Analysis of S. 1145)

S.1145 takes away states' rights in law enforcement and unites federal jurisdiction with local. With no checks and balances against federal intrusion, local and federal law enforcement become one. This is the very definition of a "police state."


Police State in Pennsylvania


The nation saw the power of such unified cooperation on October 10, 2004. Philadelphia district attorney Lynne Abraham gave police orders to arrest 11 Christians for the "hate crime" of witnessing to homosexuals. Seven charges resulted in a proposed penalty of 47 years in prison and $80,000 fines per person, including a 17-year-old girl. (See, " Philadelphia Pursues ‘Hate Crimes’ Charges against Christians")

Kennedy's bill empowers the federal government to do nationally what Lynne Abraham did locally. They will be able to indict pastors, talk show hosts, pro-lifers, political dissidents, etc. all around the country at the same time. Indictments and judgments will come faster than anyone can keep up with them. The defendants will be embroiled in an exhaustive gauntlet of court cases and appeals.

Energized by supplemental legislation and judges who make hate crimes doctrine from the bench, the long arm of hate crimes authority and jurisdiction will progressively broaden. It will entrap the best elements of society while protecting the worst. This is exactly what has happened in Canada and Europe. In at least one province of Canada it is a hate crime to pass out Gospel literature in public. In Holland it is a hate crime for pastors to reprove adulterers.

Hate laws already exist not only in Canada, Sweden, Australia, but also 45 U.S. states. Gullible legislators were hoodwinked into believing the intention of these laws was only to eliminate violent hate crimes. But, as the nation saw in Philadelphia, the real ambition of hate laws is to end dissent and the freedom of Christians to speak the whole truth.


What You Can Do


Here's a vital strategy by which the hate bill was defeated last fall in the Senate Judiciary. Countless patriots acted on the following instructions which I delivered on nearly 100 TV and radio talk shows.

First, instead of just calling the two senators from your state, call all 100 members of the Senate! We must undermine and demoralize Kennedy's coalition of pro-hate bill senators.

The entire list of Senators is printed on my home page at www.truthtellers.org. The toll free number to Congress is 1-888-355-3588. The toll number is 1-202-225-3121.

Once you have dialed the capitol:
Ask the capitol operator to send you to Senator Alexander's office.
Deliver this message: "Please don't vote for attachment of Senator Kennedy's hate bill, S.1145, to the Sex Offenders Registration and Notification Act, S.1086. Please oppose all hate crimes legislation."
Don't hang up. Ask to be transferred to the next senator on the list, Senator Allard. The senator's receptionist or to the capitol operator will transfer you to the next office
Repeat, going through all 100. In about an hour and a half, you will have delivered a powerful, freedom-saving message to the entire Senate. This will deeply erode Kennedy's power in the weeks ahead.

If you can't call all at once, space your calls throughout the week. Even during your lunch break, you can send about 20 messages in 20 minutes.


True Grit


Last year countless Americans called all 100 Senators. They remembered how many of our founding fathers and mothers lost their homes, fortunes, and even lives to secure our liberty. These callers did not consider one and a half hours on the phone too great a price for liberty. Result: With God's help and with many groups enlisting calls to the Senate, America defeated the hate bill in Judiciary. We can do it again!

Here's what else we must do: Get educated.

Hate crimes legislation will continue to assault free speech and persecute Christians and dissenters in the years ahead. Regardless of who controls Congress or sits in the White House, leaders must know the people will not tolerate such freedom-stealing laws. They will be voted out of office if they pass such laws.

Come to www.truthtellers.org for the world's foremost educational resources on the history, theory, and oppression caused by hate laws worldwide.

As if we don't have enough trouble with radical and violent people crossing our border from outside, we have an enemy class from within Washington D.C. as well.

Tolerating and just sitting idly by while permitting this sort of thing to occur spells disaster. If we permit it to be as the above mentioned, then we are our OWN worst enemy - self defeating and rightfully deserving of the end result.

Very disturbing and dangerous to say the least.

It appears that this person who originally posted this post is a wolf in sheep's clothing. I clicked on the link here and it turned out that the website went on about the "big bad Zionists." One of those "Zionists are taking over the world" sort of nonsense.
And this poster and his site have nothing to do about the issue of illegal immigration.

PS... what I meant to say was that Ted Pike, if that was the owner of the website link, was someone who appears to have an anti-Zionist agenda rather than the poster who posted the article and link about him ( sorry if I misunderstood about who posted it ). The reason for my alarm concerning this website is that I have seen too many of them and they ARE part and partial and cut from the same cloth as those who post the Protocols of Zion and talk of the Zionist takeover of the world. And lest people EVER forget, today is the Holocaust Remembrance Day AND it was the lies of Hitler that included the Protocols of Zion that brought about the Holocaust ( and there is an article on Ted Pike's website questioning the number of Jews who were killed during the Holocaust.

Any site that is geared towards holocaust denial is not a reliable source for information.

Anti-Hate Laws would be good for the anti-illegal immigration movement because they would put the aztlan racists in jail.

You are also misinterperting the way these laws would be enforced. For example if someone made a threat towards homosexuals or said that they should be hurt or something similar they could be arrested. If someone simply stated their personals beliefs they would not be breaking any laws.

In Canada the Conservative Party (who their prime minster is a member of) does not support gay marriage, but I think they may support some kind of civil unions. No one has ever accused them of "hate speech".

In Germany these laws are primarily used to prosecute neo-nazi groups.

The only groups that have to worry about these laws are well, hate groups.

Well actually the hate groups will use these bills against US and call us "hate groups" because we want to enforce our laws. I'm a little uneasy about a bill like this at this time.

Remember, our own founders stated that Congress shall NOT make any laws against the freedom of religion, freedom of speech etc. Even though some may find benefit in such legislation, it quite honestly IS a law which goes against our Constitution. If anyone thinks it is a great idea and permit government to pass it, that person is just as guilty of destruction of our Constitution as those who actually write the law and implement it.

Canada said the same thing: Oh, it will be good to use against "Hate Groups" only. Yet already one minister in Canada was arrested and incarcerated for reading a Bible verse out of his Bible aloud in public which calls a particular lifestyle an "abomination unto the Lord".

Others have been reprimanded for practicing their religious expression as well. What it did, and quite efficiently at that, is that it turned anyone who is against a liberal idealist utopia - anyone who denounces such is now turned into a criminal element.

One only has to look North of the border to see just what such a anti-hate bill will turn into, even though it wasn't the original intent.

Our courts have a nasty habit of taking things out of context and reinterpreting them into something which wasn't the the original intent. But if you battle against such wrongful interpretation, you are simply told the new interpretation will stick because THEY are the judges and what they say will be the law of the land. Activist judges, as some call them, WILL most certainly take any law you allow to be placed on the books and WILL use them against you at a later date.

Trust me... I know.

Kurt

Gives me the creeps. somehow I don't think its going to be used to prosecute "hate crimes" against anyone but the blood brothers of Alberto Gonzalez and gays.

Free speech is gone. Whatcha gonna do..have a revolt?


Sarcasm aside...it is time. It is time.