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    The End Is Near: Hillary 51%, Trump 39%

    The End Is Near: Hillary 51%, Trump 39%

    BY MICHAEL VAN DER GALIEN JUNE 26, 2016


    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gestures while speaking at a rally at
    Macomb Community College, Friday, March 4, 2016, in Warren, Mich. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)


    According to a poll PJ Media's Rick Moran reported on earlier, we have yet another sign that Donald Trump will go down in burning flames come November:

    Support for Donald Trump has plunged as he has alienated fellow Republicans and large majorities of voters overall in the course of a month of self-inflicted controversies, propelling Democrat Hillary Clinton to a double-digit lead nationally in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    According to the poll, Hillary is supported by 51% of American voters. And Trump? He doesn't even get close: he's stuck at 39%.




    What makes this even worse is the following:

    The survey finds sweeping unease with the presumptive Republican nominee’s candidacy — from his incendiary rhetoric and values to his handling of both terrorism and his own business — foreshadowing that the November election could be a referendum on Trump more than anything else.

    Note: when elections are about issues Republicans generally win, while Democrats win when elections are about the people running. If current trends continue -- and they will -- Trump has no chance whatsoever of winning in November. What's more, I even doubt it'll be a somewhat close race. Hillary is going to win this thing with two fingers up her nose.

    If Republicans want to win the presidential elections and prevent Trump from taking the rest of the party with him, they have to get rid of him at the convention next month. Doing nothing means they'll surrender at least the White House and quite possibly the Senate and the House to Democrats. And that could very well destroy the American economy and America's standing in the world.

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    Really? Could they be more obvious? These people still hope of turning the Republican candidacy over to somebody else? Who? Rubio has come out of his fake retirement. Maybe they want him to replace Trump. We haven't heard from Cruz for a while. Is he more popular then Trump?
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    Since Trump banned the WP from his press conferences and has referred to one ABC reporter as a "sleaze", one should actually look at the poll in detail. They might find that only 24% of those "polled" were Republicans and over 30% were Democrats.

    There are all kinds of ways to make a poll say what you want it to, and since ABC and WP have appeared to act as the media arm of the Clinton campaign, I find these results highly suspect. But, both ABC and WP have made headlines with it......

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    This is interesting.

    A Warning to Trump Supporters, The Polls Are Fixed To Discourage You, Here’s How
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    Posted by moku 6 hours ago in News

    Something just didn’t seem right to me these past several weeks.

    About a month ago, polls were showing Trump was very close, and even ahead of Democrat, presumptive nominee, Hillary Clinton right as the nomination cycle was winding down.

    If you recall, Trump won the Republican primaries, shattering the Republican vote record for any nominee by more than 1.4 million votes while Hillary had a quarter million votes less than Obama did in 2008.

    So why are polls showing Hillary suddenly skunking Trump by double digits, even though other polls are showing half of Bernie supporters WILL NOT support her?

    Well, if it makes no sense, always look at the poll’s internals.

    IPSOS/Reuters shows Clinton beating Trump 43% to 33%. So what was the breakdown of political affiliation? Let’s see what the poll itself says:

    These are findings from an Ipsos poll conducted for Thomson Reuters June 18-22, 2016. For the survey, a sample of 1,585 Americans, including 781 Democrats, 491 Republicans, and 193 Independents ages 18+ were interviewed online.

    For a poll to be truly indicative the same number of Republicans and Democrats should have been interviewed. Yet in this case, nearly double the amount of Democrats were asked whom they support over Republicans.

    The ABC News/Washington Post poll shows Clinton up by 12% but the breakdown shows:

    The polled Democrats account for 36 percent of all adults and 37 percent of registered voters. Republicans account for 24 percent of all adults and 27 percent of registered voters, about their average in recent years, with the rest independents.

    So what was the breakdown for the last Presidential election between Obama, who had virtually all the black vote and the millennials and Romney, who didn’t even excite the base?

    Dems-38% Rep-32% Ind-29%

    These polls are horribly skewed, putting heavy weight on an even bigger Dem turnout than we saw in 2008, when Obama rode his saving grace wave over McCain with numbers being 39-32.

    With so many polls showing Trump sucking Reagan Democrats over to his side, coupled with other polls that show black and Hispanics in support in much higher numbers than in recent history, it is very difficult to digest such blatantly biased polls.

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    I was under the impression that the general election was just beginning!

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    Can't believe the polls.

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    Clinton Widens Lead Over Donald Trump in NBC Poll

    by HANNAH HARTIG, JOHN LAPINSKI and STEPHANIE PSYLLOS


    Hillary Clinton now leads Donald Trump by 8 points, her highest advantage since the general election match-up question was first asked on May 2, according to the latest NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll.

    This week, Clinton enjoys 49 percent support of registered voters to Trump's 41 percent. Her 8-point margin over Trump grew from 6 points in last week's poll.

    Clinton maintains a 6-point advantage over Trump—42 percent to 36 percent—when Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein are included as choices in an alternative version of the horse race question, according to the poll, conducted online from June 20 to June 26.

    Although the Weekly Election Tracking Poll indicates that Clinton is picking up considerable momentum against Trump, Republican and Republican-leaning voters are rallying behind their party's presumptive nominee and rejecting the "Stop Trump" movement. A large majority of Republican voters would like to see Trump nominated at the Republican convention.




    There has been a lot of talk among Republican Party elites and political pundits about whether the Republican Party should retain Trump as the nominee or move to nominate a different candidate at the convention. A majority of Republican and Republican leaners—67 percent—said if it were up to them, they would have the delegates nominate Trump at the Republican convention. Three in 10 Republicans said they would open the convention and choose another candidate.




    The strong support for Trump's nomination comes during the same week that prominent U.S. evangelical James C. Dobson met with the presumptive nominee. Trump caught criticism from several religious conservatives in the early days of his primary campaign because he had apparently never asked for God's forgiveness and could not name his favorite Bible verse despite it being his favorite book. Though Trump went on to win white evangelical voters during the primaries, Ted Cruz remained competitive with him throughout the election and actually did better than Trump among voters who attend church frequently. Dobson spoke positively of Trump after the meeting.

    In this week's poll, Trump leads Clinton among white evangelical voters by 53 points—72 percent to 19 percent. He has consistently dominated Clinton by large margins among that group.





    While it seems many Republicans are united in their approval of Trump's nomination, he did fall nationally against Clinton this week. Some of Clinton's momentum can be attributed to gains among white voters and millennials. After murmurs from Sanders that he will most likely vote for Clinton in November, the presumptive Democratic nominee enjoyed an 8-point boost among 18-24 year olds this week from last week. She now has 68 percent support among younger voters—up from 56 percent last week. Sanders' stronghold over millennial voters in the primary are considered a key demographic for Clinton's campaign to win over in the coming months.




    Clinton also continues to make gains among white voters. Although Trump is still ahead among this group of voters, he dropped from a 12-point advantage last week to an 8-point advantage this week; 41 percent of white voters now support Clinton and 49 percent support Trump.




    The next couple of weeks will be critical moments for both candidates as they prepare for the national conventions by cementing their campaign staff and making important choices like deciding who their vice presidential running mates will be.

    The NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking poll was conducted online June 20 through June 26, 2016 among a national sample of 6,556 adults aged 18 and over including 5,818 who say they are registered to vote. Respondents for this non-probability survey were selected from the nearly three million people who take surveys on the SurveyMonkey platform each day. Results have an error estimate of plus or minus 1.8 percentage points. For full results and methodology, click here


    Clinton Widens Lead Over Donald Trump in NBC Poll - NBC News

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    It appears to me that folks that want to preserve the sovereignty this country might think about their vote. I am still skeptical of these polls. JMO

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    There is about four months left before we hit the voting booths. Polls will start to matter a few weeks after the convention and definitely after the first debate. I hope Trump is debating for a couple of hours everyday like a boxer training for a prize fight.

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