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    Fake Families, Fake Papers Are Rampant at Border


    A group of illegal aliens is processed by Border Patrol agents after crossing from Mexico into Yuma, Ariz., on April 13, 2019. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)

    Fake Families, Fake Papers Are Rampant at Border


    ’I just brought her because I know they're gonna release me. So I asked her mom, ‘Can I bring her up here?’’
    BY CHARLOTTE CUTHBERTSON
    May 20, 2019 Updated: May 20, 2019Share



    EL PASO, Texas—No one is able to estimate how many fraudulent families have already been released into the United States. But almost 250,000 individuals within “family units” have been apprehended by Border Patrol in the past seven months.
    A new Border Patrol initiative, using rapid DNA testing, has revealed a 30 percent rate of fraud in the two test areas of El Paso and Rio Grande Valley, Texas.
    The test, which requires consent from the adult, uses cheek swabs from both the adult and child and takes about two hours to get results.
    Homeland Security Investigations, a division of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is also interviewing families that Border Patrol suspects are fake. Between mid-April and May 10, HSI special agents interviewed 562 family units, with a full 48 percent of them being determined as fake. Of the 562 interviewed, 95 fraudulent families were identified, in addition to more than 176 fraudulent documents or claims.
    “The fraud can be in a number of different ways. You could have two adults that are actually related, for example, a father and a daughter, but the daughter has a counterfeit or altered birth certificate showing her to be a juvenile,” said Jack Staton, special agent in charge, ICE Homeland Security Investigations El Paso.

    “Then you could have two adults that are not related at all, but yet they have documentation showing that one of them’s a child and the other one’s an adult. Then you could have a adult with the child that’s not their child. And in some cases, maybe the child is related, maybe the child is a cousin or a niece or nephew. In other cases, the child is not related at all to the individual.”
    A group of illegal aliens walk up the road after crossing the Rio Grande from Mexico. Further up the road, they will board a bus bound for the Border Patrol processing facility in McAllen, Texas, on April 18, 2019. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)Not Their Child

    In one case, Staton said a man eventually told agents that the “daughter” he brought was actually his niece.
    “‘I just brought her because I know they’re gonna release me. So I asked her mom, ‘Can I bring her up here?,’” Staton said the man told agents.
    “That is disturbing. That is beyond disturbing, because these children are making this journey with this adult. The only reason [the adult] is willing to bring the child is because they believe they’re going to get released once they get into the United States.”

    On May 7, HSI agents discovered that a 6-month-old wasn’t the “son” of the Honduran man he was with. The man, Amilcar Guiza-Reyes, 51, illegally crossed the Rio Grande River near Hidalgo, Texas, with the baby.
    He had previously been deported in 2013.
    “While we have seen egregious cases of smugglers renting and recycling children, this case involving a 6-month-old infant is a new low—and an unprecedented level of child endangerment,” said HSI Acting Executive Associate Director Alysa Erichs in a press release.
    In cases such as this, the child will be transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services and processed as an unaccompanied minor, which means a sponsor will be found to take the child. Or, the consulate of the home country will help to identify the real parents of the child.
    Staton said HSI takes investigations further to try to identify how and when the child and adult were paired, and what would happen to the child once they made it into the United States.
    “We try to identify the networks that are responsible for it. And then we prosecute those networks,” he said.

    The adults involved in fraudulent family claims are prosecuted by the Department of Justice for federal crimes including: immigration crime, identity and benefit fraud, alien smuggling, human trafficking, and child exploitation.
    ICE Homeland Security Investigations special-agent-in-charge Jack Staton in El Paso, Texas, on May 7, 2019. (Charlotte Cuthbertson/The Epoch Times)Fake Unaccompanied Minors

    Other cases involve fraudulent unaccompanied minors.
    “So you could literally have someone claiming to be 17 or 16, that we’re turning over to Health and Human Services that’s going to be housed and sent out to a sponsor with children, that is actually 21, 22, 23 years old,” Staton said.
    “And they’re just trying to do it to defraud our immigration system. And these systems were put into place to protect children. They were put into place to help people, people who needed to escape persecution.”

    As many as one million illegal aliens are expected to be apprehended by Border Patrol in fiscal 2019. More than half of the illegal aliens who have arrived in the country this year claimed to be part of a family. The number of family units has increased by 400 percent, year over year.
    Family units generally claim credible fear at the border, which ensures their release into the country within several days, along with a future court date that most fail to honor.
    Staton said he doesn’t see a law enforcement fix for the problem.
    “As long as people are able to make it in, as long as people believe they’re going to get released, that’s not going to stop it,” he said.
    In 2014, fewer than 1 percent of all men apprehended by Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley Sector had a child with them. That number now sits at 50 percent, according to Rodolfo Karisch, chief Border Patrol agent for that sector.
    Staton has been with Border Patrol and ICE for 24 years.
    “As a Border Patrol agent and later on as a special agent investigator, you would never see, for example, adult males bringing small children with them into the United States. That was not the norm,” he said. “You see that all the time now.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyklo View Post


    The test, which requires consent from the adult, uses cheek swabs from both the adult and child and takes about two hours to get results.

    What happens when they don't give their "consent"? Does the US apologize, and say "so very sorry we asked, but we'll make it up to you, here's the key to the US, be happy, and welcome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyklo View Post


    Between mid-April and May 10, HSI special agents interviewed 562 family units, with a full 48 percent of them being determined as fake. Of the 562 interviewed, 95 fraudulent families were identified, in addition to more than 176 fraudulent documents or claims.

    Now, for the $64,000.00 question----what happens to this 48 % are they prosecuted or are they immediately? Odd, they we do not see any news reports about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyklo View Post


    The test, which requires consent from the adult, uses cheek swabs from both the adult and child and takes about two hours to get results.
    Homeland Security Investigations, a division of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), is also interviewing families that Border Patrol suspects are fake. Between mid-April and May 10, HSI special agents interviewed 562 family units, with a full 48 percent of them being determined as fake. Of the 562 interviewed, 95 fraudulent families were identified, in addition to more than 176 fraudulent documents or claims.
    This is mind boggling.

    They have to give their permission to be tested, and 48% gave that permission and failed.

    This tells me one of two things

    Either

    These people are extremely stupid

    or

    our government is putting on a DNA testing show, and the invaders know even if they fail they will still be treated as if they didn't fail.

    In view of everything else happening, I am leaning toward the latter.
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    Any type of fraud should be saved as evidence for an Executive Order to deny all asylum claims from Mexico, Central America and South America. They are already committing a fraud claiming they are eligible for asylum from countries that do not practice political or government persecutions. Add the family, age and identify fraud and you've got a good case a judge might accept as evidence of a program that must be stopped due to fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Any type of fraud should be saved as evidence for an Executive Order to deny all asylum claims from Mexico, Central America and South America. They are already committing a fraud claiming they are eligible for asylum from countries that do not practice political or government persecutions. Add the family, age and identify fraud and you've got a good case a judge might accept as evidence of a program that must be stopped due to fraud.
    and who would that evidence be handed to? the Coyote in Chief who led the UN in making sure the invaders were funded in getting here.
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    What are you talking about?
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    BP Union President, Brandon Judd, was on Fox News this morning describing what they're finding with the DNA evidence, 30% of all "families" have unrelated children with them, children their parents were paid to send with strangers as pawns, to be exploited over and over. Judd said this is evidence that this isn't just an immigration issue, it's really a criminal issue. More evidence to add to the case of an asylum ban for Mexico, Central America and South America, it must be stopped due to fraud for the purpose of high crimes by the phony asylum seekers.

    I think we're getting close to enough evidence to convince courts that a country based asylum ban through Executive Order is necessary and urgent with the tag line that anyone who opposes it and wants to continue this madness is either a pervert or paid by one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    BP Union President, Brandon Judd, was on Fox News this morning describing what they're finding with the DNA evidence, 30% of all "families" have unrelated children with them, children their parents were paid to send with strangers as pawns, to be exploited over and over. Judd said this is evidence that this isn't just an immigration issue, it's really a criminal issue. More evidence to to add to the case of an asylum ban for Mexico, Central America and South America, it must be stopped due to fraud for the purpose of high crimes by the phony asylum seekers.

    I think we're getting close to enough evidence to convince courts that a country based asylum ban through Executive Order is necessary and urgent with the tag line that anyone who opposes it and wants to continue this madness is either a pervert or paid by one.



    There was already enough evidence but the the Coyote in Chief who led the UN in making sure the invaders were funded in getting here won't stop them.

    The language of the relevant statute (section 212(f) of the INA) is as clear as can be:


    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non migrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.



    Did he say why 48 % of the fraudsters are "voluntarily" submitting to a DNA test when they know the child with them is kidnapped or borrowed?

    Did he say they were immediately deported? Did he show videos of the fraudsters being loaded on planes for deportations?

    If these people knew there would be repercussions, they would not submit to the test, when they learned they were about to be found out, they would say, ooops sorry, just got a text that Grandma is sick back in Honduras, gotta go. Apparently there are no repercussions.

    Until, I see videos of them being deported it appears this is just more of our government telling us what they are doing and rubbing it in our face, and laughing at us.


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    WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS!!!

    DEPORT 100% OF THEM

    THEY CANNOT BE VETTED ONCE HERE!

    GET THEM OUT!
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