Thread: The Fat Lady's Not Singing in New York... Yet

Looks like Pelosi may be gloating too early! Lets hope...at the link is video of Cavuto interviewing Hoffman.


The Fat Lady's Not Singing in New York... Yet

Posted by Bobby Eberle
November 17, 2009 at 8:56 am

Two weeks ago marked a turn in the Republican comeback. Running on conservative issues and against the anti-American socialist policies of Barack Obama, Republicans picked up the governorships in New Jersey and Virginia. Try as they might to dismiss the events, the Obama team was clearly sent a message: America is a conservative country, and it rejects your left-wing takeover.

New Jersey and Virginia were not the only focal points on Election Day. The special election in New York's 23rd congressional district pitted an unknown candidate representing the Conservative Party against his Democrat opponent. The so-called "Republican" candidate dropped out. Despite the fiasco brought about by the Republican Party establishment backing a candidate more liberal than the Democrat, Doug Hoffman (the conservative candidate) nearly won. But wait... perhaps Election Day really was a clean sweep for the conservative cause. It turns out that the NY-23 race is getting closer by the day, and Hoffman has unconceded his concession. Here are the details...


First some background: In this special election, a small group of Republican Party chairman, with the support of the National Republican Congressional Committee, rallied around Dede Scozzafava as the Republican nominee. She is more liberal than about half of the Democrats in the NY State Assembly. There was a huge backlash, and Republicans in the district turned away from her and put their support behind the Conservative Party's Doug Hoffman.

When Scozzafava plummeted in the polls, not only did she suspend her campaign, but she then threw her support behind the Democrat! Does that sound like a "real" Republican to you? On election night, Scozzafava still drew about 5 percent of the vote, enough to tilt the race to Democrat Bill Owens.

Despite the closeness of the race -- only a few thousand votes difference -- Hoffman conceded to Owens on election night. However, that has all changed. As reported by The Hill, "Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman has "unconceded" in New York's special House election after reports that the vote margin narrowed between him and Rep. Bill Owens (D)."

The Syracuse Post-Standard reports that Hoffman "was down 5,335 votes with 93 percent of the vote counted on election night."

Now a recanvassing in the 11-county district shows that Owens' lead has narrowed to 3,026 votes over Hoffman, 66,698 to 63,672, according to the latest unofficial results from the state Board of Elections.

In Oswego County, where Hoffman was reported to lead by only 500 votes with 93 percent of the vote counted election night, inspectors found Hoffman actually won by 1,748 votes -- 12,748 to 11,000.

The new vote totals mean the race will be decided by absentee ballots, of which about 10,200 were distributed, said John Conklin, communications director for the state Board of Elections.
Rather than wait for the recanvassing and the counting of absentee ballots, Hoffman conceded on election night. Owens was immediately sworn in and cast a vote to help pass the Democrats' health care bill in the House.
Hoffman is certainly ready to keep fighting. In an e-mail to supporters on Friday, Hoffman wrote, "Our Campaign Is Not Over Yet!"

You have stood by us through this challenging campaign, one that took many unexpected twists and turns. First two liberals were running against one conservative. Then the liberal Republican dropped out of the race and, showing her true colors, endorsed the real Pelosi Democrat. On Election Day the votes were close, and we thought we had lost.

Yet now, a little more than a week after Election Day, our fight takes another turn as reports surface that the election was far closer than we had originally thought. There is only a 3,000-vote difference and final tally will be decided by a count of 10,000 absentee ballots.
Hoffman would need over 65% of those absentee ballots to win, so he is certainly a long shot. But the point is that an unknown conservative battling against an established Democrat, a Republican who is a Democrat, and the confusion over Scozzafava's withdrawal and endorsement has come very close to winning. And the margin keeps getting closer. Imagine what would have happened if the Republican establishment had just picked a real Republican!

http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=147

"Imagine what would have happened if the Republican establishment had just picked a real Republican!"

Who is picking these progressive rejects FOR the Republican party? Who is actually controlling the Republican party?

js

Originally Posted by Tbow009

"Imagine what would have happened if the Republican establishment had just picked a real Republican!"

Who is picking these progressive rejects FOR the Republican party? Who is actually controlling the Republican party?

js

There's been some confusion in the national reports about how all the candidates in the special election were selected. They've implied that there was something untoward in the way Dede Scozzafava was selected, when there wasn't.

Under the laws of the state of New York for special elections, the parties select their candidates to be put on the ballot. There is no primary election for special elections to fill vacancies, whether you're a Republican, Democrat or Conservative. Dede Scozzafava was selected the same way the Democrat was selected and I presume the same way Doug Hoffman was selected, which is by the party Chairmen of the 11 counties in the Congressional district.

Dede Scozzafava is a former city Mayor and current Assemblywoman from this Congressional district. There were 8 people who put their name in the pot for the party Chairmen to consider. The 11 County Chairmen interviewed the candidates, considered each of them, voted and Dede Scozzafava won and became the Republican candidate for the special election, the same way Doug Owens became the Democratic candidate for the special election and ironically, the same way Doug Hoffman got his name on the General Election ballot for the Conservative Party to fill this vacancy.

Dede Scozzafava was winning by a mile until the last few days of the campaign when Doug Hoffman went national in his campaign with appearances on Glenn Beck and gathered up endorsements from people in Alaska (Sarah Palin), Minnesota (Tim Pawlenty), Florida (Rush Limbaugh), Texas (Dick Armey) and Pennsylvania (Rick Santorum).

How did Doug Hoffman gather up this support? He lied. He lied about Dede Scozzafava's position on health care reform, cap and trade, government spending and taxes.

Without time to refute them with either debates or ads, the people polled by a university up there in the district who didn't know her since the university is outside of the district with the people polled relying upon the out of state endorsements, the false statements about her made by Doug Hoffman, and the negative media onslaught they heard in recent days, caused Dede to drop in the polls and on the Saturday before the election, she decided to suspend her campaign.

It should also be noted that as one of the conditions to be considered by the Republican Party was a commitment that if you were not selected, you would not run on another party's ticket. Doug Hoffman made that promise, but breached it and has cost the Republicans a seat in the US Congress our party has held since 1870.

Furthermore, Doug Hoffman was financed to the tune of over $1,000,000 by the Club for Growth, an organization whose core principle is expanded free trade treason. In addition, Doug Hoffman is a pro-immigration shamnesty candidate who supports a "path for more immigrants to enter our country", which was clearly stated on his website as well as in an interview with Glenn Beck, both of which have been posted on other threads about him on ALIPAC.

What is remarkable about this race in the NY-23 is that lies, false statements and dishonesty by national figures like Palin, Pawlenty, Limbaugh, Armey and Santorum have not only robbed the Republicans of a slam dunk seat in the Congress, it has tipped even further, the precarious balance of power in the US House of Representatives to Nancy Pelosi.

Glenn Beck of course who is not a Republican, but an Independent, is course getting a big kick out of this, who stated even while he was spreading the lies about Dede Scozzafava in favor of Doug Hoffma, doesn't endorse Doug Hoffman.

As to real Republicans, Dede is a real Republican with over 14 years of winning Republican elections, 4 years as a Mayor and 12 years as a State Assemblywoman, who opposes Obama's health care reform, who opposes cap and trade and stated plainly on her website she not only opposes it but believes it will destroy our economy, opposes excess government spending and tax increases.