Thread: Feds raid multiple alleged ‘Chinese birthing houses’ in maternity tourism scheme

Federal Agents Carry Out Search For Evidence Of Illegal Support For 'Birth Tourism'

@ http://www.alipac.us/f12/federal-agents-raid-20-suspected-maternity-hotels-california-317995/

it wont do any good to shut down the birth houses without securing the borders where the Chinese illegals are streaming across into America.

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Actually it won't help stop anything related to anchor babies until we pass a law that bans the government from granting citizenship to children of non-citizens unless the parents have been issued green cards for permanent legal residence.

When asked, one of the people most responsible for writing the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments said that foreigners, children of diplomats, and people in the country temporarily were not intended to be covered.

If the justices of the Supreme Court or more likely, their clerks - were willing to look at the text of the discussions regarding those amendments, it would be easy to see that birthright citizenship goes specifically against the intent of the Amendment's writers.

There was case which some claim establishes birthright citizenship. Wong Kim Ark, I think. But that person was in fact the child of people who were considered to be permanent residents.
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Originally Posted by vistalad

When asked, one of the people most responsible for writing the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments said that foreigners, children of diplomats, and people in the country temporarily were not intended to be covered.

If the justices of the Supreme Court or more likely, their clerks - were willing to look at the text of the discussions regarding those amendments, it would be easy to see that birthright citizenship goes specifically against the intent of the Amendment's writers.

There was case which some claim establishes birthright citizenship. Wong Kim Ark, I think. But that person was in fact the child of people who were considered to be permanent residents.
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That's why the 14th Amendment contains the words, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, which means owing no allegiance to a foreign sovereignty or foreign power.

Originally Posted by Judy

That's why the 14th Amendment contains the words, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, which means owing no allegiance to a foreign sovereignty or foreign power.

Yep.

The people who wrote the Constitution and its amendments did not waste words. So when we want to know their intent, it's sometimes necessary to research their comments during debates. The "no allegiance" issue should be an easy one to settle, because people who are citizens of a foreign country owe allegiance to that country by definition. That doesn't mean that they like their government, just that they remain subject to it.

We may have to enact a law for the slow learners in the group, but that really should not be necessary. The people who wrote the Reconstruction Amendments - the 13th, 14th, and 15th - were clear about the 14th not pertaining to foreigners.
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Originally Posted by vistalad

Yep.

The people who wrote the Constitution and its amendments did not waste words. So when we want to know their intent, it's sometimes necessary to research their comments during debates. The "no allegiance" issue should be an easy one to settle, because people who are citizens of a foreign country owe allegiance to that country by definition. That doesn't mean that they like their government, just that they remain subject to it.

We may have to enact a law for the slow learners in the group, but that really should not be necessary. The people who wrote the Reconstruction Amendments - the 13th, 14th, and 15th - were clear about the 14th not pertaining to foreigners.
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Exactly. So why does the US Department of State issue passports to children born to foreigners? It makes no sense. I've always thought it was a practice devised by some clerk who didn't know any better, but why the superiors didn't stop and reverse it, is the big question. But in any event, these government agencies are too incompetent to be trusted with US citizenship, so we definitely need a law that prohibits it.