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    Former Trump Aide: He’s Doomed

    Former Trump Aide: He’s Doomed
    Why a former political adviser to the Republican frontrunner believes Trump’s candidacy is closing in on a total collapse.

    Look at the polls, and Donald Trump is crushing his Republican opponents. But from the perspective of Sam Nunberg, a political adviser who worked for Trump until earlier this year, The Donald’s campaign is losing—and is just a couple months from total disaster.

    “What I’m worried about is, I don’t know what his inner circle is telling him. I hope they’re being honest. I’m more worried, I’m not optimistic,” Nunberg told The Daily Beast. “Under the scenario that I’m laying out, I do not think that he will win… This is what I would say from a ‘glass half-empty’ perspective if I were talking to Mr. Trump.”

    To be sure, predictions of Trump’s demise have so far proven wrong—he has defied conventional wisdom, and continues to be the frontrunner in the Republican presidential primary despite controversies that would have eliminated almost any other candidate. But the trajectory of the campaign thus far, Nunberg says, means that it is more likely than not that Trump will lose the first presidential contests in Iowa and New Hampshire, then hobble into South Carolina having lost frontrunner status and ceded momentum to his competitors.

    Falling poll numbers in the first key states, a lack so far of reserved advertising, a low net favorability and underperformance in the college-educated voting bloc that dominates the early presidential contests—all these contribute to a darkening forecast for the Trump campaign, Nunberg argued.

    Nunberg began consulting for Trump as early as 2011, and became a full-time adviser in Trump’s office in 2014. But Nunberg was fired over the summer due to a series of racist Facebook rants, including one 2009 post in which he called the president a “Socialist Marxist Islamo Fascist Nazi Appeaser.” So he is not exactly an impartial observer, despite his protestations to the contrary.

    Apparently Trump doesn’t see eye to eye with his former aide. In characteristic Trump fashion, the businessman struck back against Nunberg’s analysis in a biting, personal way.

    “Sam Nunberg was fired. He’s a highly self-destructive individual who makes routine calls begging for his job back. This is the interview of a desperate person who is trying to hang on and stay relevant,” Trump told The Daily Beast.

    Nunberg maintains that he’s a staunch supporter of Trump’s candidacy, and took great pains during our interview to stress his personal esteem for the businessman. The purpose of speaking out, he said, was to create an “open memo” in which Trump might be alerted to his campaign’s shortcomings.

    “Given the time I’ve devoted to him over the years, I’d like to see him at least get the nomination,” Nunberg said. “I like Mr. Trump, I worked for him for a long time, and consider myself close to him. He’s one of the few people I’ve ever worked for that I have a close personal affinity for.”

    But despite his affection for the candidate, Nunberg insists that no one should be sanguine about Trump’s prospects. “He’s not going to win in Iowa, and he is very precarious in New Hampshire,” Nunberg said.

    First, to Iowa. Nunberg says Trump has a natural disadvantage among caucus-goers in the state: a majority of caucus-goers hold college degrees, a demographic which tends not to support Donald Trump. Combined with a net favorability of +17 percent, compared to Sen. Ted Cruz’s net favorability of +55 percent, Trump has very little room to grow.

    And while the Trump team might argue that they can win based on bringing newcomers into the Iowa caucus process, there has been no dramatic increase in the number of registered Iowa voters. With just over a month until caucus day, the number of registered Republicans in Iowa (PDF) is roughly what it was on caucus day in 2012 (PDF), Nunberg said—meaning that while there has been an increase, it hasn’t been nearly large enough to back the Trump campaign’s argument.

    If this scenario plays out, Nunberg doesn’t “see a pathway to the nomination—he certainly wouldn’t be the frontrunner anymore.”

    “Mr. Trump’s real ceiling is going to be 20 percent on caucus day,” Nunberg predicted, based on what he called a “pessimistic” view of the facts. He pointed to three live surveys of likely Republican voters, conducted by Monmouth, Loras, and the Des Moines Register in December, that show Trump losing to Cruz.

    “He’s going to lose Iowa. Cruz will win Iowa,” Nunberg said. “Some of that Trump support will move over to Cruz in New Hampshire, once he loses. I then believe that, because Rubio will… consolidate a lot of that establishment support… he’ll surge at the end.”

    Like in Iowa, a majority of 2012 New Hampshire primary voters have college degrees, a state where Trump is currently leading. But a recent poll said that 57 percent of voters in the state would “never” vote for Trump in a primary.

    And recently, Trump has also gone to war with Union Leader, a prominent New Hampshire newspaper. In an editorial, the Union Leader compared Trump to “Biff,” a character from Back to the Future. Trump responded by calling the newspaper’s publisher a “lowlife.”

    Nunberg also cited a USA Today/Suffolk University poll in November that had Trump at 22 percent in New Hampshire, which dropped to 15 percent if Mitt Romney was added to the list of candidates. Despite those strong numbers, Nunberg said this indicated that Trump’s support in New Hampshire was more a function of his name identification than genuine support.

    While former Gov. Jeb Bush and his super PAC have reserved more than $14 million in New Hampshire and Boston commercials, including two Super Bowl ads, while Trump is somewhat late to the party, finally insisting Tuesday that he’d spend millions on TV ads in early contests. Meanwhile, Rubio and his super PAC have planned for over $6 million in commercials in New Hampshire and Boston in the weeks leading up to the primary.

    “Once he loses Iowa, he’ll drop” in New Hampshire, especially if he doesn’t come through with significant television advertising, Nunberg said. “Everybody else is buying TV right now, so it’s an advantage everyone else has over him, regardless of whether he thinks he needs it or not. They will be using TV to cut into his support.”

    If Trump loses Iowa and New Hampshire, he’ll stumble into South Carolina. “Once Cruz wins Iowa, and if he beats Trump in New Hampshire, which he very well could, Cruz would win South Carolina, from a momentum perspective,” Nunberg predicted.

    If this scenario plays out, Nunberg doesn’t “see a pathway to the nomination—he certainly wouldn’t be the frontrunner anymore, and his numbers will start to fall.”

    Nunberg said he hoped that Trump’s inner circle of advisers were informing the businessman of the trajectory their campaign was on. And while he’s not sure the campaign would be doing any better if he had remained on board, he said he viewed failure as an outcome that was more likely than not.

    “I hope that Mr. Trump would be able to see a pessimistic scenario, and that his inner circle is letting him know of this pessimistic scenario,” Nunberg said. “This is what I’d be worried about, this what I’m playing out.”

    Despite having been fired months ago, Nunberg still always calls the businessman “Mr. Trump,” a verbal quirk of those who work or have worked for him.

    “I have respect for him. I would never call him Donald,” Nunberg said.

    Updated 12:04pm 12/30/15 to add comment from Donald Trump.

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    Dear Trump Supporters in Iowa:

    If you aren't already registered, you've got to register immediately.

    If you aren't planning to do whatever it takes to be at the Caucuses on February 1, please try to figure out a way to be there.

    Please tell all your friends and family to do likewise.

    Trump needs to win Iowa.
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    Another negative hit propaganda piece from the Daily Beast.

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    “He’s going to lose Iowa. Cruz will win Iowa,” Nunberg said. “Some of that Trump support will move over to Cruz in New Hampshire, once he loses. I then believe that, because Rubio will… consolidate a lot of that establishment support… he’ll surge at the end.”
    Geez, I hope not. I don't want to see Rubio anywhere near the presidency! Reminds me of what happened to us with Sen. John McCain when he won the nomination. The guy absolutely came out of nowhere and surged to victory in the end. Don't want to see a replay of that with Rubio!

    I'd rather see Trump win early and often but I'll accept Cruz if things play out as Nunberg predicts. Please, no Rubio!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Another negative hit propaganda piece from the Daily Beast.
    Yes, of course it is. But I posted it to show how this can go badly if Trump doesn't win Iowa. Trump needs to win Iowa.
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    Iowa Trump Supporters Registration Information For You:

    Do I have to vote according to the party affiliation on my voter registration?

    No.

    Ballots are secret and voters have the right to vote for any candidate they want.

    The only time that party affiliation is important in terms of voting is in the case of a political party caucus or a primary election. In those cases, voters must be registered with the political party whose caucus or primary they wish to participate in. Voters have the right to change their affiliation and then participate in the caucus or primary election on the day those events are being held. (Ex. Someone who is registered as a Republican may participate in the Democratic primary election by changing his or her political affiliation to Democratic on the day the primary election is held and vice versa.)

    Voters can only participate in one party's caucus or primary election each time those events take place.

    https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/voter...on/regfaq.html

    The Republicans and Democrats each hold their own set of caucuses subject to their own particular rules that change from time to time. Participants in each party's caucuses must be registered with that party. Participants can change their registration at the caucus location. Additionally, 17-year-olds can participate, as long as they will be 18 years old by the date of the general election. Observers are allowed to attend, as long as they do not become actively involved in the debate and voting process. For example, members of the media and campaign staff and volunteers attend many of the precinct caucuses. Youth who will not be eligible to vote by the date of the general election may also attend as observers and may volunteer to attend the county convention as youth delegates.[4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Geez, I hope not. I don't want to see Rubio anywhere near the presidency! Reminds me of what happened to us with Sen. John McCain when he won the nomination. The guy absolutely came out of nowhere and surged to victory in the end. Don't want to see a replay of that with Rubio!

    I'd rather see Trump win early and often but I'll accept Cruz if things play out as Nunberg predicts. Please, no Rubio!!!
    I think you'll be surprised at the number of us who will not support Cruz which means a Hillary or Bernie win. So hey, Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, suck on that for awhile. You want to play this it doesn't matter game, this Number 1 or if not Number 2 Hedge Fund Game? Have at it. But don't expect a Republican in the White House in January 2017 if it's not Trump. Too many of us have been the victims of your Poison Pill stupidity, your Hedge Fund way of thinking covering your bets and ratings, and we won't be those stooges for you anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I think you'll be surprised at the number of us who will not support Cruz which means a Hillary or Bernie win. So hey, Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, suck on that for awhile. You want to play this it doesn't matter game, this Number 1 or if not Number 2 Hedge Fund Game? Have at it. But don't expect a Republican in the White House in January 2017 if it's not Trump. Too many of us have been the victims of your Poison Pill stupidity, your Hedge Fund way of thinking covering your bets and ratings, and we won't be those stooges for you anymore.
    So are you actually saying you won't vote in the presidential election if Trump's not the nominee? Your choice but I see that as a huge mistake if it comes down to a choice between Clinton and Cruz. I'm sorry to hear you say that but I hope I'm right and you're wrong if it comes to a choice between Clinton & Cruz because I honestly believe many of the Trump supporters will step up and vote Cruz in the presidential election. I won't pretend to speak for everyone else, but you're looking at one right here and I doubt I'm alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    So are you actually saying you won't vote in the presidential election if Trump's not the nominee? Your choice but I see that as a huge mistake if it comes down to a choice between Clinton and Cruz. I'm sorry to hear you say that but I hope I'm right and you're wrong if it comes to a choice between Clinton & Cruz because I honestly believe many of the Trump supporters will step up and vote Cruz in the presidential election. I won't pretend to speak for everyone else, but you're looking at one right here and I doubt I'm alone!
    I'm sure a lot of supporters will "step up", suck it in and go with the same o, same o. But you won't have enough to win the White House. Trump had it right on Cruz but Levin and Limbaugh pulled him back which is why I mentioned them in my post. Trump can still win without Iowa, but it will be much harder for him and there was no reason at all for Republicans to make it hard for Trump to win Iowa and then run the table to the nomination. No reason at all and by doing so they're jeopardizing his nomination and alienating Republican voters who want to fix our country.
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    Republicans can easily sabotage their own interests----part of the problem with coalition politics. Romney would have defeated Obama in 2008, I have no doubts. But evangelicals objected to his Mormon affiliation. Romney may not have been the 'perfect' candidate but look what we have ended up with!

    Evangelicals are novices at US politics----since most of them were Democrats prior to 1980 anyway. They could actually ruin the 2016 election by not showing up as dependable voters. Hope not. In our state we got ruined in the governors race because 3rd party 'conservatives' did not vote for the R candidate. Result was huge disaster.
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