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    The GOP war on 'anchor babies'

    Blocking citizenship for U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants is a top priority for some House Republicans. Can they do it?
    posted on November 19, 2010

    Rep. Steve King is leading the campaign to deny "birthright citizenship."

    The incoming Republican chairman of the House subcommittee on immigration, Rep. Steve King (R-IA), has set his top priority: Repeal the U.S. "birthright citizenship" granted to all U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants under the 14th Amendment. King argues that these so-called anchor babies are an unfair drain on taxpayer dollars, and offer their undocumented parents a stealth path to citizenship. While some GOP leaders support King's drive, is it good policy... or bad politics?

    What happened to Constitutional conservatism? The newly elected class of Republicans campaigned on "defending" the Constitution, says Cynthia Tucker in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. But if their first goal is gutting the 14th Amendment — rather than, say, creating jobs — it's not the Democrats who "don't care so much about fealty to the Constitution," it's the "radical" GOP.
    "Radical Republicans want to ignore the Constitution"

    It's time for Congress to take action: King's got the right idea, says Bruce Maiman at Examiner.com, but his proposal doesn't directly tackle the real problem: The vague language of the 14th Amendment. Ideally, Congress would revise the amendment so that it clearly requires that one parent be a citizen before a child can become one too.
    "House conservatives target 'anchor babies'"

    This is political suicide: King's bill would never pass the Senate, let alone the courts, says the Los Angeles Times in an editorial. The only thing it would do is alienate Latino voters. And that's just bad politics. Latinos are a rapidly growing electoral force, and they "are not, by any means, monolithic Democratic voters" — yet. If GOP leaders don't "quash" anti-immigrant talk, they risk losing Latino support.
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    http://theweek.com/article/index/209554 ... hor-babies

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    Why pray tell would enforcing the 14th Amendment as intended which is unless your parents are citizens of the US, subject to the jurisdiction of the US, or a freed slave, also subject to the jurisdiction of the US, you ain't no citizen of the US because you were born here ... "alienate Latino voters" when Latino voters are supposed to be US citizens and their children are protected by the 14th Amendment as US citizens by birth the same as all children of US citizens and voters?!!

    GOP ... you keep it going, we support you 100%, there is no American citizen loyal to our country, our fellow citizens and the US Constitution who wants anyone to be granted US citizenship upon birth except and unless at least one of their parents is a US citizen. Why in the world would any US citizen loyal to our country, our fellow citizens and the US Constitution want to give automatic birthright citizenship to the children of foreign nationals and illegal aliens??!! Only crazy people and globalists who want to dissolve the United States and merge US with the world would want to do that.
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    And this is the problem

    "yet. If GOP leaders don't "quash" anti-immigrant talk, they risk losing Latino support. "

    I have not heard any Repubs EVER say anything anti immigrant

    These idiots use talking points to make it appear that way ,

    Besides , who the heck cares about the stinkin latinos , I've had it with latinos

    Just who do they think they are anyway?

    This is America , we don't take kindly to threats. let um pound sand.

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    The GOP War on Anchor Babies? Talk about someone trying to put an evil twist to the GOP effort to stop the insanity. Citizenship for anchor babies was NEVER the intent of the 14th. Globalists and corporate POS's are responsible for this to have occurred in the first place. The newly elected GOP officials have their marching orders and they know damn well they better begin to listen!
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    Judy, if I had a mind like yours connected to a keyboard, I would be dangerous! Great post.

    Your faith in the Republican Party at times tickles me, but perhaps a little humor at the parties expense might put a little fire under their arses.

    I'll be very happy to just see it brought up for debate. Perhaps they will be able to set some bonfires in the mind. Clear out a little of the underbrush and dead wood.

    Once again, great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    And this is the problem

    "yet. If GOP leaders don't "quash" anti-immigrant talk, they risk losing Latino support. "

    I have not heard any Repubs EVER say anything anti immigrant

    These idiots use talking points to make it appear that way ,

    Besides , who the heck cares about the stinkin latinos , I've had it with latinos

    Just who do they think they are anyway?

    This is America , we don't take kindly to threats. let um pound sand.
    Exactly. Republicans have never been anti-immigrant. Republicans are the ones who ensured they had equal rights in our country. However, Republicans are also responsible for most immigration controls for the simple reason that we have business sense and know that if too many immigrants are allowed into the country, it results in more people than jobs and generates poverty and unemployment amongst our citizens, which in turns places financial burdens upon the rest of us to support them until they can find a job, and most of the time, once our population surpasses the job market, these people will never find jobs resulting in generational poverty.

    It's the same reason Republicans have always been protectionists. If we ship our own manufacturing base out of the country, we've shipped out the jobs our citizens needed to sustain themselves. It's why we always used tariffs and quotas to manage and limit imports so our companies wouldn't be put out of business by countries with lower standards of living.

    It's the same reason Republicans always opposed the mandated income tax, because we knew it would end up robbing our corporations, employers and citizens to fund and redistribute income from those who earned it to those who didn't and grow government far beyond the limited government of a Republic.

    It's time for the sound reasoning and logic of the Republican Party, the Grand Ole Party, not some "new" thing, to stand up, stand tall and fight like hell to stop illegal immigration, excess legal immigration, free trade treason, mandated income taxation, War on Drugs and bans on domestic oil and gas drilling.

    It's just common sense and a law of the universe that if you don't protect something of value, you will lose it. How much more evidence that the long-standing policies of the Republicans that secure our borders, control immigration, protect our trade, control taxes, leave the people alone and encourage our own domestic oil and gas exploration are right for America do you need at this point? The US opens the borders by failing to secure them, drastically expands legal immigration far beyond any labor requirement, increases free trade treason with multiple FTA's and membership in the WTO, and adds another 30,00o pages to the mandated income taxation code, ramps up the War on Drugs to Gestapo levels, places bans on oil and gas drilling and ... what happened? That's right. They bankrupted the US in less than a decade.

    We're now the world's largest banana republic and the laughing stock of the world because of how easy it was to bring down the greatest economic superpower the world had ever known.

    That's where we are, so what are we going to do about it? Are we going to continue to let our bean farmers dictate trade policy and sell out our nation because they want to sell more beans than we want to buy? HELL NO! Tell agriculture to count their blessings. We waste more money in subsidies per owner on Agriculture than any other enterprise in the US. If Americans don't want more soybeans, but want more organic tomatoes, then grow less soybeans and more organic tomatoes. That's how a "free market" is supposed to work. We also import more migrate labor for the agricultural industry per owner than any other as well. If you don't want to pay American Workers to run your farms, pick your crops and milk the cows, then go buy some land in another country, hire their workers and sell your products to them.

    But do not expect Americans to continue along this path of opening our borders for pear pickers and our trade for soybean farmers because this bankrupts our nation. It must stop and stop now. Americans are already as of 4 years ago importing more food that we eat than what is grown domestically. Do you have any idea how dangerous that is when we're supposed to be the bread basket of the world? What a farce! That's right. Americans are now dependent upon foreign countries for our food supply because our own farmers want to become made in the shade millionaires growing 1 product for generations. How stupid can our politicians be to have used free trade treason, excessive immigration and the farm lobby to do this to our country??!! It's treason I tell you, treason straight up, and it must stop and stop .. NOW.

    Republicans are the only ones who can stop it, but we can't do it alone. We're a minority party, not the majority. Democrats have far more members in their party than Republicans and always have. But, when we're right and this time we are, independents and unaffiliateds have always joined US to do what was right for our country. Even a lot of Democrats vote with US when we're on a mission and boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, the mission we're on now is the biggest most important mission in the history of the United States, and we need you to help US. Every American with 2 live brain cells left must join US in this cause to save our country, and this is how we're going to do it:

    1. stop illegal immigration
    2. pass the FairTax
    3. protect our trade
    4. legalize/regulate/tax under 2 the illegal drug trade
    5. drill baby drill

    It's not complicated. It's very simple. We can solve this disaster in less than 3 hours if we have your support in the US Congress to do these 5 simple things to fix the US economy and save our country.
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    First of all there is no war on anchor babies. That claim is propaganda. Secondly, the 14th amendment clearly gives Congress the authority to enforce the amendment. If Congress passes a law to stop granting automatic citizenship to the children of illegal aliens then it is legal and Constitutional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roundabout
    Judy, if I had a mind like yours connected to a keyboard, I would be dangerous! Great post.

    Your faith in the Republican Party at times tickles me, but perhaps a little humor at the parties expense might put a little fire under their arses.

    I'll be very happy to just see it brought up for debate. Perhaps they will be able to set some bonfires in the mind. Clear out a little of the underbrush and dead wood.

    Once again, great post.


    Thank you so much roundabout. And yes yes yes, we welcome humor in our party and have always been about debate, and bonfires, and clearing out underbrush and dead wood. Like all organizations, we have our issues, and we don't all agree on every issue all the time, but most of us agree on most of the issues most of the time and will never give up fighting for what we believe is best for our country and fellow citizens.
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    They could always do what Canada does. If you are a non Canadian and have a baby there then the baby is Canadian but the parents and child can and do get deported. The child can return to Canada when they are of age and then can sponsor the parents or the child stays with relatives who are in the country legally and once the child is old enough they can sponsor the parents. There are also no benefits the parents would be entitled to as the child is Canadian. In fact the child would have healthcare and the mother would not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swatchick
    They could always do what Canada does. If you are a non Canadian and have a baby there then the baby is Canadian but the parents and child can and do get deported. The child can return to Canada when they are of age and then can sponsor the parents or the child stays with relatives who are in the country legally and once the child is old enough they can sponsor the parents. There are also no benefits the parents would be entitled to as the child is Canadian. In fact the child would have healthcare and the mother would not.
    That would still be a dangerous policy, I'm pretty sure that would also be taken advantage of. As soon as the child becomes of age the whole family will rush the US.
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