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    Action Alert from Numbersusa

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    Letter I received today:
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    Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:06:27 -0400
    From: "Roy Beck NumbersUSA" <immigrationinfo@numbersusa.com>
    Subject: Support new Bush immigration enforcement


    Send faxes to support huge new push to drive illegal aliens out of jobs

    DEAR FRIENDS OF SENSIBLE IMMIGRATION POLICIES,

    The illegal alien communities -- and the outlaw businesses that hire them -- are in a panic this weekend.

    And they should be.

    The panic has spread to your town or city -- all across America.

    It is most important that all of us contribute to that panic and ensure that it continues. For it is that kind of panic that will eventually lead to millions of illegal foreign workers and dependents going back to their home countries.

    Hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens could be driven out of their jobs over the next several months if the Bush Administration follows through on two promises made on Friday.

    That in turn could result in a big increase in the exodus from the United States of settled illegal aliens. That exodus already is running around 200,000 a year. We reasonably could hope to see 500,000 to 700,000 illegal aliens leaving the country over the next 12 months because they no longer can get decent jobs.

    And that level should increase over the next several years, with all of your communities enjoying the benefits of lower taxes, better public services and improved quality of life that would come with a significant decrease in your illegal population.


    Regardless of Bush Motivation, We Need National Mobilization of Support For Two Powerful Proposals to Keep Jobs From Illegal Aliens


    Most of Talk Radio and our allies against illegal immigration are rightfully skeptical of the motives of the Bush Administration in announcing all this new enforcement six and a half years after taking office.

    More on that lower in this Alert.

    But my key concern is that the entire NumbersUSA Action Network -- and all of your own networks -- are mobilized to ensure that the two Powerful Promises are kept ...

    ... and to provide a positive counterbalance to the incredible opposition that is being mounted right now in the business and illegal-alien communities.

    Right now, I just want you to begin informing yourself about the overall issues involved here ... and to send faxes to your Members of Congress so they have no doubt that you support this workplace enforcement.

    I will be giving you a lot more things to do in this battle during the rest of the month.

    But it is so very important that you inform yourself now. One of the reasons we beat the amnesty in June was that so many of you were so impressively informed about the issues involved.
    in this email:
    1. Take action now.

    2. Powerful Promise No. 1: Aggressive 'no-match' campaign can lead to firing of hundreds of thousands of illegal workers

    3. Powerful Promise No. 2: All companies doing business with feds have to use E-VERIFY to weed out illegal new hires.

    4. You've sent more than half-million faxes since our amnesty victory

    5. What Is Bush Thinking?

    6. Official announcement of new no-match policy

    actions in brief:
    1. Send new faxes from your personalized Action Buffet corkboard:

    www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet

    2. Fill out your NumbersUSA Interest Survey so you will see more action opportunities
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    You've Sent More Than 500,000 Faxes Since Our Amnesty Victory


    I salute all of you who have not let summer vacations and post-crisis let-down slow your activism for more sensible immigration policies.

    The media have made a big deal about the roughly 2 million faxes that you sent to Congress through NumbersUSA in the May and June fight that led to the defeat of the Senate amnesty bill on June 28.

    But since June 29, you all have sent another 519,308 faxes to Congress and the Administration!

    I have no doubt that your activism has been one of the inspirations for so many good amendments before Congress left town the first of August ...

    ... or that your continuing activism has helped convince the Bush Administration that it has to show some serious immigration enforcement for any number of political and policy reasons.

    I feel certain that your continuing, unrelenting activism is a major reason why high Administration officials since June 28 have been listening to your NumbersUSA staff in discussions about how the Administration can increase enforcement without congressional action.

    We are pleased, and quite a bit surprised, to see so many of our recommendations on the list announced Friday (although we will push hard for those of our recommendations that didn't make the list).

    Many of you may have missed out on several of the actions we posted in July because they were posted based on interests checked on our survey.

    Many of you have not taken the Interest Survey and, thus, don't see a lot of actions we make available.

    I encourage you to click the following link and make sure that you have a fully filled out survey:

    numbersusa.com/survey?action=longlist


    Two Bush Promises Deserve and Need Your All-Out Support



    The two key enforcement measures that must be implemented quickly and fully are these:


    POWERFUL PROMISE NO. 1: An agressive "no-match letter" effort notifying larger employers about all their employees whose Social Security numbers do not currently match federal records.

    Every business with 10 or more of the "no-match" employees would be pressured to move any illegal aliens out of their jobs.

    This is not about new hires. It is policing a much larger population. It is about scrutinizing the entire workforce of people hired over the last decades by medium-to-large firms.

    In the past, employers getting the no-match letters could throw them in the trash and let their "no-match" employees continue on the job without fear of reprisal from the government.

    But Bush officials were emphatic Friday that any time a company is perused in the future by the feds, that company's failure to have fired illegal aliens identified by no-match letters will be strong evidence for heavy financial and even criminal penalties.

    Most business analysts feel that threat will be enough to cause most businesses to start firing any workers identified as illegal aliens.


    POWERFUL PROMISE NO. 2: A requirement that all companies doing business with the federal government participate in the electronic verification system -- now called E-VERIFY -- for all their new hires.

    Our allies in Congress have been aggressively trying to get this added to virtually every bill that has gone through this summer. And they have had some success. They have wanted to mandate that at least companies getting taxpayer businesses should be required to avoid illegal foreign workers.

    NumbersUSA's staff have been pushing our contacts inside the Administration for some time to go ahead and do this because it doesn't require congressional action.

    Now the Administration is taking this great idea and running with it. We are very pleased.

    Hundreds of thousands of companies doing business with the federal government will have to start using E-VERIFY (formerly known as Basic Pilot).

    That is the system we have advocated for years to be mandatory for every new hire by every business and organization in America. Until Congress steps up to the plate and legislates mandatory verification, this Administration action forcing all federal contractors to use it is a mighty good interim step.

    Within months, large sectors of the American economy will be off-limits for illegal foreign workers. A significant minority of them will find lower-paying jobs in the underground economy. But most will be faced with a decision about whether it is worth their continuing to remain in a United States that no longer provides enough rewards for breaking immigration laws.


    What Is Bush Thinking?


    We at NumbersUSA spent all day Friday answering questions from radio, TV and newspapers about what to think about the Bush Administration's announcements about a lot of new enforcement against illegal immigration.

    Click here to read the press release we issued that expresses a lot of our caution.

    Watching the press conference Friday was enough to convince us that the Bush Administration is hoping that all its new tough enforcement will cause businesses and illegal-alien advocates to fight much harder to push an amnesty through Congress, perhaps later this fall.

    The editors of the Washington Post today said they believe that is what the Administration is doing. The Post saluted Pres. Bush for proposing a lot of enforcement that will make life more miserable for illegal aliens and businesses so that Congress will finally understand that mass legalization is necessary.

    Our job will be (a) to ensure the enforcement really makes the outlaw businesses and foreign workers that miserable, and (b) to make sure that Congress can see that removing illegal workers from the workforce is a good thing that reduces public costs and moves more Americans into productive lives.

    All of us must continually remind Congress -- and the media when they are willing to listen -- that we have 23 million "less-educated" American working-age adults who do NOT have a job.

    Even if every one of the estimated 7 million foreign workers lost their job in the next year, there should be plenty of Americans from among those non-employed 23 million to take the places of the illegals and keep the economy humming.

    Our belief has always been that once a cycle of firm enforcement begins, it will be clear that illegal immigration is not inevitable and that it indeed IS possible for a sovereign people to decide who should be in their country.

    The Bush Administration is hoping for a very different outcome. Its officials on Friday repeatedly noted that because the Senate refused to pass the Comprehensive Amnesty, the Administration has no choice but finally begin enforcing the law and that that is going to cause a lot of companies to go out of business and be really tough on our economy.

    It clear that the Administration hopes a few months of tough enforcement will convince people like you that we need massive new guestworker programs and legalization for the illegal aliens already here. Bush officials are hoping you will go for that deal because you will by then see that this Adminsitration can be trusted to carry out enforcement to ensure that we don't get over-run by new waves of illegal immigration.

    The stakes are high. But we are more than willing to see the Administration start this gambit because we believe workplace enforcement can prove to be incredibly successful ...

    ... and because we believe small citizen armies like all of you will be able to protect the enforcement while barring any new efforts at an amnesty.

    We have serious concerns about the Administration's announcements about streamlining current temporary foreign worker programs. We are watching this very closely and will mobilize opposition if these proposals show that they are threatening the ability of American workers to obtain and keep jobs at reasonable wages and working conditions.

    All of these new opportunities are a wonderful result of having defeated the Bush/Kennedy amnesty bill in the Senate on June 28.

    You didn't just stop a terrible thing but set in motion a lot of new possibilities, many of them constructive.

    One of the reasons I see so much possibility, is that we are aware of many really dedicated officials inside the Department of Homeland Security who have been itching to enforce immigration laws for a long time.

    While the enforcement interest in the White House may be suspect, it is sincere among many of the people who have been asked to carry out the President's new initiatives.

    Your participation in faxing and phoning this next month will be most important in bolstering our friends in the Administration and protecting them from any ideas about retreating from enforcement once it starts to work.


    Official Description of the No-Match Plan


    Fact Sheet
    August 10, 2007
    Contact: ICE Public Affairs
    (ICE is the Immigration and Customs Enforcement of the Department of Homeland Security)

    ICE and Social Security Administration “No-Matchâ€

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    FYI - this is the longest letter I've ever received from Numbers.

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    I am glad to hear they are also on top of it. They have done a lot of good work in this fight, I am glad they are on our side.

    I do think what Roy Beck and Numbers has said about the adminstrations hopes in the outcome of enforcement, let's all make sure that they DO NOT get what they hoped for.

    I do think in the beginning, prices may go up a bit, we all may have to tighten our belts some, and we may assuredly do without a few little things we were so used to, but....I also believe when that gap starts to close again, Americans will all step up to the bat and we will really shine then.

    I also look forward to there being better use of our tax dollars, to fund the growth of the economy for AMERICANS not for big business and illegals.
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    Like I said before. I am calling my Senators, Congressmen, Mayor, Govenor and ICE to let them know that there are still illegals working at Home Depot, McDonalds, WalMart and Wendy's. I am looking to see if the illegals in my neighborhood go to work in the morning.
    <div>''Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid.''
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    UNTIL BUSH GETS HIS HYPOCRITICAL ARSE UP ON NATIONAL TV AND TELLS ALL OF THE ILLEGALS THAT THEY MUST LEAVE OR BE ARRESTED, I WON'T BELIEVE A WORD HE SAYS.
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    A NumbersUSA button campaign with people wearing

    "Opppose Illegal
    Immigration join
    NumbersUSA.org"

    on their lapels would be a good thing
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    I think this time I will be adding another point to my protest which I have been thinking about recently as I am sure others have too and may have already posted a similar view.

    I believe our government is condoning the poor treatment of the citizens of the countries most illegals come from by allowing them to come here and send remittance back home which helps the economy and keeps their government from making the changes necessary to insure their citizens have decent conditions so they do not need to look for work outside their own borders.

    I also believe La Raza and other groups would better serve illegals if they focused on the problems in the immigrants home countries instead of encouraging illegals to settle in the US. They have no business lobbying our government on behalf of people who have no right to be here.

    The people of the united states will no longer tolerate this invasion of our homeland and will strongly resist any attempts by our government to disregard our immigrations laws or their attempts to legalize the invaders.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    I do think in the beginning, prices may go up a bit, we all may have to tighten our belts some, and we may assuredly do without a few little things we were so used to, but....I also believe when that gap starts to close again, Americans will all step up to the bat and we will really shine then.

    YES SOME THINGS MIGHT COST MORE, BUT I DONT THINK IT WILL BE THAT MUCH MORE. ALL OF THE SAVINGS FROM SLAVE WAGES ARE GOING INTO CORPORATE POCKETS....NOT BEING PASSED TO THE CONSUMER.

    AND WAGES WILL START TO GO UP PRETTY QUICKLY AS THERE WONT BE SCAB LABOR AVAILABLE. PERISHABLE FOOD PRICES WONT GO UP THAT MUCH, BECAUSE THE FOOD IS PERISHABLE AND MUST BE SOLD RIGHT AWAY.

    AND WE CAN HELP OURSELVES BY STARTING VEGGIE GARDENS AND BEING RESOURCEFUL. THIS TRANSITION WONT LAST LONG. WORKERS WILL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE BETTER WAGES TO OFF SET THE INCREASE IN PRICES.

    AND ONE LAST POINT. IF WE DONT DO THIS WE WILL END UP WAY MORE POOR.

    IT DOESNT MATTER HOW CHEAP THINGS ARE IF YOU DONT HAVE A JOB OR IF YOU CAN ONLY FIND PART TIME WORK....OR IF WAGES ARE DRIVEN DOWN SO FAR THAT EVEN THE BASICS ARE NOT AFFORDABLE.

    THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING TO SOME FAMILIES. THEY HAVE TO USE CREDIT TO GET BY.

    SO THIS TRANSITION WONT BE EVEN HALF AS PAINFUL AS THE HELL THAT AWAITS US IF WE DO NOTHING.
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    A few items like food and hamburgers might go up a few percent, but many things will also cost less, like gasoline, housing costs, car insurance, and health care. Plus we will be getting a lot more for the taxes we pay. Overall we will make out great!
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    I'm hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. I think Bush is doing this to prepare for another amnesty bill. The enforcement doesn't make sense to me. If you have more then 10?? Big businesses have already paid off the "right" people to get away without conforming to the new enforcement. Then they have 90 days to fire the illegal. Then what? They go down the road and work again until they get fired and then have 90 more days? It should be done faster.
    I'd like to see a law passed that says the illegal groups have no right to sue America. These lame lawsuits against cities trying to take care of their own are costly to the taxpayers.
    Let's get all the illegals off welfare and other federally funded programs.
    Let's stop the anchor baby law. If parents are citizens of another country, then so is that baby.
    America would have a lot more money if we didn't have to provide for all the illegals. When people tell me they would be better off if they were illegal it breaks my heart, because most of the time they are right.
    I'm willing to do without a lot to get this done. If I can't have a salad for a year, I guarantee you I'll survive. But becareful, stay away from things from China. That is food that will harm you!
    I'd rather die living then live dying!

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