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    Another point worth mentioning is the false choice of either mass amnesty or mass deportation often cited by George Bush, Hillary Clinton, and other amnesty proponents. (Of course, GWB and the others use euphemisms for amnesty such as "pathways" to citizenship.)

    In fact, a third way, attrition through enforcement, is a humane and more cost effective way to deal with illegal aliens who are here. Basically this is the idea there "are many other ways to make illegal aliens go home other than deportation" such as by cutting off the jobs magnet.

    More info here:

    http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=15137

    http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back406.html

    http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html

    http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/attrition.html (scroll down to middle of page for info on "Attrition Through Enforcement Is the True Middle-ground Solution.")
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    To avoid the xenophobe or racist connotations, be sure to stress ALL Illegals. San Francisco, Boston and Chicago have a Huge Irish Illegal population. Sacramento has a boom of Illegals from Russia and other former Soviet Countries. Let me know if you want more info on non Hispanic illegals.
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    Thank you from all of us, run4theborder, and welcome!

    I would suggest that you stick to substantiated facts, but still anticipate an onslaught of racism accusations. For example, mentioning the number of Spanish-speaking and Cuban radio stations in CA and FL does not seem to be relevant to any factual arguments and therefore will be interpreted as racism against all Spanish-speaking individuals, legal or illegal.

    Another fact you may want to research are the numerous estimates on the actual number of illegals in this country, which varies from 10-38 million. Pro-amnesty supporters intentionally use only the lower number which works more to their advantage.

    Off the top of my head, you may want to check:

    http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~GBorjas/pub ... nload.html

    http://borjas.typepad.com/the_borjas_bl ... e_pol.html

    http://search.heritage.org/search?ie=&s ... on&x=0&y=0

    http://www.cfr.org/content/publications ... nCSR26.pdf

    http://www.nationalacademies.org/Result ... earch#1123

    http://www.numbersusa.com/index

    http://www.illegalimmigrationfacts.com/ ... ion-facts/

    http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

    http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

    Good luck...keep us posted!!!

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    Re: Help

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    I produce shows on community television in my County. My first show is coming up on the 26th. It is to be an hour long, and on illegal immigration. I haven't started compiling the script yet, but I have some quotations below. If anyone has some input, annecdotes, ideas, links, or quotations that they can contribute it would be greatly appreciated.

    I have compiling some interesting quotes from the book of articles that I was reading. Here the amazon website link for the book.

    http://www.amazon.com/Illegal-Immigrati ... 644&sr=8-1

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    Haerens, Margaret ed. Illegal Immigration. San Francisco: Thomson Gale 2006.

    "A november 2003 poll by the Pew Research Center reported that 77 percent of Americans believed that 'we should restrict and control people coming into the country to live more than we do now.' A March 2003 Poll by the Roper ASW organiztion reported that 85 percent of Americans thought that illegal immigration was a serious problem . . . Overall, more than 4.8 million illegal immigrants have been deported from the United States since 2001, including more than 300,000 with criminal records" (14-15).

    "A study released by the Center for Immigration Studies, an immigration research organization, stated, 'Households headed by illegal immigrants imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household'" (19).

    "America supports 13 million illegal aliens that have no allegiance to our country. A dozen cities feature more foreign-born immigrants than American citizens. Last year [2003], 800,000 Californians fled their state. Over 200 Spanish-speaking radio stations own the airwaves in Los Angeles. Miami features over 100 Cuban stations. None have any allegiance to America" (23).
    "The (catch and release) policy allows a captured illegal immigrant to remain free in this country if the person agrees to appear at a court hearing, which often is scheduled in a U.S. city that was the immigrant's destination. But about 86% of those who agree to show up in court do not, and they become fugitives" (55).

    "In 2004, there was more than 70,000 non-Mexicans caught trying to enter the U.S. - through Mexico! They came from Brazil, Syria, Pakistan, Indonesia, Iraq, China and 120 other countries, the Department of Homeland Security reports. What is wrong with the United States placing at least the same importance on border security as Mexico does in guarding its southern border with Guatemala and Belize? Mexico's love affair with open borders is selective; it applies only to the U.S. Does this selectivity have anything to do with the estimated $16 billion sent home to Mexico last year [2004] by Mexican nationals in the U.S.?" (87).

    "It began with sanctuary cities, where law enforcement personal are not allowed to question or report criminals' immigration status. Then it was all about giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition at colleges and universities (which reeks of discrimination against out-of-state American students who are not afforded that privileges) and free health care and bank accounts, and it continues today with the ongoing crusade to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. The right to vote in public school elections is being pushed now, and it's just a matter of time before voting in political elections gets added to the mix . . . Immigration activists have altered the very language of the issue so that illegal immigrations are referred to as undocumented workers and day laborers. All immigration is lumped together, whether illegal or otherwise, to blur the lines between the two categories. This blending allows all opponents of illegal immigration to be labeled 'anti-immigration.' Such activists are particularly fond of using the term racist to silence anyone who dares to question the open-borders orthodoxy. The myth that opposition to illegal immigration in America comes solely from white people continues to be perpetuated, but in reality defies the stereotype. Americans of all backgrounds, and particularly Hispanics whose families have lived in the United States for generations as well as legal immigrants from latin countries and elsewhere, count themselves among the growing forces of those opposed to illegal immigration. The late revered Latino labor activist Cesar Chavez was in fact a firm opponent of illegal immigration; he understood that it would undermine wages for American farm workers. Was Chavez a racist? What's truly racist is the perpetuation of a subculture of unintegrated Hispanic laborers in America" (132-133).

    There is a section called "Organizations to Contact." It lists a few anti-illegal-immigration organizations.

    American Immigration Control Foundation (ACIF) http://www.aicfoundation.com/

    California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR) http://www.ccir.net/

    Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) http://www.cis.org/

    Negative Population Growth (NPG) http://www.npg.org/
    Here is a GREAT site to see what is going on throughout the country regarding illegals!! It is updated every day, twice a day!!

    http://www.americanpatrol.com
    Last edited by Jean; 08-27-2013 at 10:44 PM.

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    The quotes of the open borders is definitely good to use. Juan Hernandez has some good lines. Get across the message that the American people are paying for the FREE services and benefits to millions of illegal aliens and that many have had their identities stolen. Talk about the hospital closings and emergency room/department closings and those on the verge of bankruptcy due to illegal aliens. California is a prime example of what will come.

    Local schools are being forced to increase school building and millions of dollars go to ESL services and FREE breakfast and lunch, after care, etc. to the children of illegal aliens.

    Anchor babies of illegal aliens are crushing the health care system too.

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    Here is another group with extensive articles and info:

    http://unitedpatriotsofamerica.com/Home ... fault.aspx

    Good luck! and let us know when it will air...
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    I haven't seen this suggested yet, but I would get a copy of "The Border" by Chris Brouchard. Take a look at his film and see what it is doing the American's private property, how dead bodies are across the landscape at the border, the trash, the Mexican military ID on a farmers ranch.

    Stats are good when combined with visuals.
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