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    Here's What Really Happened In Wyoming

    Wyoming Party Hacks Reject Ron Paul
    Posted January 5th, 2008 by antiwar
    Wyoming GOP county conventions gave their delegates to Romney, Thompson, McCain, and Hunter. But Ron Paul never stood a chance there.

    We shouldn't have expected anything from Wyoming. Most observers didn't understand the rules.

    The Wyoming county conventions were NOT open to Republican voters. Eligible delegates consisted of only two groups: Republican party officials who were elected in 2006; and delegates who were appointed (by established precinct organizations) to fill empty delegate seats. The rules are explained here.

    Each county convention elected either one delegate or one alternate. They were assigned one or the other by the state party based on past vote totals for GOP candidates in their county.

    Each county convention was presented with delegate candidates, who were either pledged to a Presidential candidate or unpledged. The winner in each county had to get over 50%, so runoffs were held.

    In most cases, the winning delegate candidates were county party leaders who were chosen because of who they were, rather than who they are supporting for President.

    Wyoming's system is a throwback to the old days of backroom nominations. There was little chance for new party activists to participate in this process, only old-timers made the choice.

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    The Ron Paul Campaign had the opportunity to play by the same rules everybody else did.
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    And, this is the same thing that they did in Iowa for the Democrats.

    Anyone who had less than 15% were able to give their support to other candidates----and they got to choose who those candidates were!!!
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    The last Mexican elections analogy

    There were three major parties in the last election the PRI, the PRD and the PAN. The PRI is the party which ran Mexico for 71 years. The PRD is a spin off of that party with a populist bent which was founded by Cuahetemoc Cardenas the grandson of Lazaro Cardenas founder of the PRI. The PAN is a pro business party with its strongest roots in the more industrialized north which has spread through out Mexico.


    There was a controversy in the
    last Presidential election as a candidate who was considered most popular was narrowly beaten by a more conservative candidate from the PAN. There were allegations of a fixed election in fact there was not.


    The real problem being that people who do not feel that things do not have some chance of being improved do not participate in electoral politics. If they have the opportunity to leave then they do. The parties played by the same set of rules and under those rules the PAN won and the PRD lost. The PRD supporters did not have the same belief in the potential of Mexico and the beneits of electoral politics as the PAN.


    The PRD's popular lead in support was lost in unregistered voters and supporters who came here as illegal aliens. If you feel that Paul should have done better in Wyoming you should have put more effort into the process.
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    Re: The last Mexican elections analogy

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    There were three major parties in the last election the PRI, the PRD and the PAN. The PRI is the party which ran Mexico for 71 years. The PRD is a spin off of that party with a populist bent which was founded by Cuahetemoc Cardenas the grandson of Lazaro Cardenas founder of the PRI. The PAN is a pro business party with its strongest roots in the more industrialized north which has spread through out Mexico.


    There was a controversy in the
    last Presidential election as a candidate who was considered most popular was narrowly beaten by a more conservative candidate from the PAN. There were allegations of a fixed election in fact there was not.


    The real problem being that people who do not feel that things do not have some chance of being improved do not participate in electoral politics. If they have the opportunity to leave then they do. The parties played by the same set of rules and under those rules the PAN won and the PRD lost. The PRD supporters did not have the same belief in the potential of Mexico and the beneits of electoral politics as the PAN.


    The PRD's popular lead in support was lost in unregistered voters and supporters who came here as illegal aliens. If you feel that Paul should have done better in Wyoming you should have put more effort into the process.
    "The PRD's popular lead in support was lost in unregistered voters and supporters who came here as illegal aliens."

    Really?????
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    So I have been lead to believe by speaking with people in the PAN and PRD
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    Well, that is why some states are trying to push for identification when voting---to confirm that they are citizens.

    The issue is going to be addressed by the Supreme Court on January 9. I doubt if they rule on it that day though. So, I guess that we will just have to wait and see what happens.
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