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    A MUST SEE FOR ALL AMERICANS!

    This afternoon I came upon a previously recorded forum that was broadcast on C-SPAN which left me completely speechless. You think we've just got the illegal immigration problem to worry about? This broadcast will make your head spin!

    There was a group of panalists from different professional backgrounds presenting their theories that our government was actually behind the attacks of 9-11.

    They will be broadcasting it again, and I urge EVERYONE to at least watch it (better yet record it too) and keep an open mind:

    CSPAN
    06:10 PM EDT
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    September 11th Terrorist Attacks
    Alex Jones Productions
    Alex Jones
    James H. Fetzer , Scholars for 9/11 Truth

    Whatever your beliefs or political leanings, I urge all Americans to keep an open mind and just see what it's about. I'm sure alot of people will immediately dismiss their claims as being hog-wash from a bunch of conspiracy theorists. But there does seem to be many unanswered questions. I have mixed feelings about what I heard. It could be because of my own difficulties accepting something that sounds right out of an episode of 24! I'll be doing my own research on this issue. However, I do remain open to this horrific possibility and I urge all Americans to find out the truth for themselves.

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    I have CSPAN on right now and it's some panelists talking about the economy. Does anyone have a link?

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    I have been hearing this theory since 9/11 and have listened to both sides.
    In my opinion if I thought our government would allow such a thing to happen I would not be sitting here writing this, I would be hiding in my closet.
    It is also my opinion there was much information was ignored or simply not given out to other agencies, there are so many ABC agencies in DC and they do not communicate with each other.
    There are so many conspiracy theories out there you could choke a horse.
    As my grandpa told me, only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
    Try to keep things in prospective, often we don't always hear every detail nor understand what we do hear. Which is my big problem.
    There is still a great debate going on about wheather we had men on the moon or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainDog
    I have been hearing this theory since 9/11 and have listened to both sides.
    In my opinion if I thought our government would allow such a thing to happen I would not be sitting here writing this, I would be hiding in my closet.
    It is also my opinion there was much information was ignored or simply not given out to other agencies, there are so many ABC agencies in DC and they do not communicate with each other.
    There are so many conspiracy theories out there you could choke a horse.
    As my grandpa told me, only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
    Try to keep things in prospective, often we don't always hear every detail nor understand what we do hear. Which is my big problem.
    There is still a great debate going on about wheather we had men on the moon or not.
    There is undeniable evidence that we put men on the moon. There is also overwhelming evidence that the first moon landing was faked because we thought the Russians were closer to making a landing than they actually were. There are problems with shadows (double shadows, even though the sun would have been the only light source other than the reflections from the Earth, which would have been so relatively inconsequential as to scarcely make identifiable shadows in full sunlight) and all sorts of things in the images of that first landing. To my mind, the most damning evidence is the fact that even though the lunar dust was supposedly so soft that the astronauts' boots leftdeep tracks even with their greatly reduced weight, the dust under the landing thrusters was absolutely unperturbed. Had the lander actually landed under thrust, it would have created a deep bowl in the soft dust.

    As for government complicity in 9/11, I have also reviewed the evidence at length and do not find it very compelling. As a matter of fact, I find that most of the commonly repeated "evidence" is nothing more than misunderstanding of the nature of the event and an inability to grasp the true speed and force of a commecial airliner plowing into the middle of a skyscraper. After all, we are talking about 100 tons of material hitting a building at about 70% of the speed of a .45 cal. bullet while carrying nearly 10,000 gallons of fuel. If my math is right, we are talking about an impact of between 50 million and 100 million ft. lbs. of energy with an impulse of less than half of a second and then exploding and creating a fire fuelled by thousands of gallons of jet-A.

    I have fewer reservations about the evidence that the government may have sent a demolitions team into the buildings after the fact to make sure that they imploded rather than toppling and potentially causing vastly more damage.

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    CrocketsGhost....I LOVE reading your posts! I feel like you're a human encyclopedia!!

    Anyway, I really do enjoy your wisdom. and am in awe of your breadth of knowledge. Thanks!
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    Crocket,
    I would say your math is right on. I am no math expert but using the formula; mass X velocity = ft. lbs. of force/energy; you come out right on.
    I can't think of a good way to describe what a ft. lbs. is though, thats the hard part.
    I can tell you that a eighteen wheel truck tire with 100 psi (lbs/sq inch) has the exposive force to throw a sixteen lbs. weight one half a mile.
    PS, I used the Lunar landing as a example of theories, my first thought was to use the JFK magic bullet theory.
    I will also add my thanks for your informitive posts.
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    I saw parts of that last night...had to turn it off.

    If they suspect explosives located in the towers, I'm sure the thought that terrorists could have put them there shortly before the attacks.....portraying janitors, etc.
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    If my memory serves me correctly, Alex Jones writes for/ is part of/ whatever, a website called prisonplanet.com.

    It is dedicated to exposing government lies and corruption. Some of the things I have read on there have scored points with me.

    They do have some interesting articles on there. One of the ones that did rattle my cage a little is the one on the plane that hit the pentagon.

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    I just checked and my memory was right. Alex Jones is with prisonplanet.com.

    The program that chloe24 was referring to:

    9/11 Truth American Scholars Symposium Conference On C-Span
    The program will re-air on C-SPAN 1 at 6:10PM EST (5:10PM CST) on Tuesday, August 1st.
    If you want more information, check out their website at:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html

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    I agree, I too find both MD`s and CG`s posts alway`s interesting. You both do have very good points of theory on the moon landing and 9//11.
    The moon landing......for years I`ve thought the same about the moon dust. Not only would a deep(clover shape) bowl been created by the (3)thrusts, but they would have had to wait some time before leaving the space ship in order for the dust to settle back at a much slower rate with a lax of gravity. Also, their boots would have created clouds of dust with the lack of gravity. Even at the slightest impact.

    9/11........ Now it has been proven and admitted that there were at least 3 warnings and they all were ignored. Now if our government was behind any of this why has`nt any of the suspects came forward?(what a question) And if so, what was there to gain? It would be one hell of a way to create diversion. I just can`t see the purpose behind it. But you do have to wonder, that if this was an unexpected security breach, why was (and still is) HLS so un responsive. Maybe this is a new type of redevelopment.
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