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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_o ... 7791c.html

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    Hillary wants to build a U.S.-Mexico fence first — and she's right




    Apart from a well-chosen warning about criminalizing Jesus, Sen. Hillary Clinton hasn't waded too deeply into the details of the immigration mess. Until now.
    In an interview Friday, she cited specific goals that could, and hopefully will, become the heart of bipartisan legislation that might actually fix this national crisis.

    A fence or a wall? She's for it.

    A two-step process, where our borders are secured before the 11 million illegal immigrants already here begin to get legalized? She's for that, too.

    The sudden crackdown by Washington on employers who hire illegal immigrants? She welcomes it.

    The work and school boycott advocacy groups are planning for May 1? She's against it.

    And she said she favors a "carrot-and-stick" approach with Mexico to provide that government and its "oligarchs" the incentives to give Mexicans more and better jobs in their own country.

    "A country that cannot control its borders is failing at one of its fundamental obligations," she said of America's "broken system." She also said that "we do need an earned path to citizenship" for illegal immigrants here.

    Because she is effectively embracing both conservative and liberal goals, and because she attaches a caveat to each, she will be accused of Clintonesque parsing and wanting it both ways. She may well be guilty, but, on the basis of two conversations with her, I'm persuaded she believes in both border security and firm, practical measures to deal with those already here.

    Most important, her support for a time lag between the two steps, with border security coming first by as much as two years, could be the right mix that breaks the congressional deadlock and solves much of the immigration problem.

    "I would not support it if the legislation was just for border security and we had to come back to Congress for everything else," she said. "We need to structure it as one piece of comprehensive legislation, with a staged implementation." For example, she said, the legalization process could begin "12 to 24 months" after border control measures take effect.

    As for how to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, "A physical structure is obviously important," she said. "A wall in certain areas would be appropriate," as long as it was not a "dumb wall" that could be scaled or tunneled. Advocating "smart fencing," she added, "There is technology that would be in the fence that could spot people coming from 250 or 300 yards away and signal patrol agents who could respond."

    She also talked of using drones and infrared cameras and, when asked, agreed that Israel's anti-terror wall, which she has seen, might help guide the U.S.

    When Congress returns tomorrow from its two-week spring break, immigration will be front and center. Clinton, correctly, is suspicious of the timing of the crackdown announced by Homeland Security on Thursday. Seven managers of a Houston-based pallet supply company were arrested and more than 1,100 illegal immigrants were detained in what officials said was a start to aggressive enforcement of employer sanctions.

    "It's obviously a political decision, but I welcome it," Clinton said. "We need to send a clear message to employers and anyone else who would exploit immigrants, including smugglers." Lest anyone think she's soft on President Bush, she faulted his administration for being "incompetent and all over the place" on enforcement.

    Yet neither is she behind advocates who want an immigrant boycott of school, work and shopping for May 1. "To me, it's not necessary," she said.

    Although she attended a New York rally where she had only praise for marchers, who included illegal immigrants, she seemed exasperated at being categorized. "I'm frustrated and I'm in an uncomfortable position," she said. "People often want to put you in an either-or category in American politics. It can be difficult to stay where you are."

    Whoa — she might have been talking in cosmic terms there! No matter. On immigration, she has found the right mix. Here's hoping she stays where she is.

    Originally published on April 22, 2006
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    So encourage her to help get the fence built - still wouldn't vote for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican
    So encourage her to help get the fence built - still wouldn't vote for her.
    amen, use her like she uses the voters.
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    Hillary is mocking the Minutemen effort - she's trying to put a you-know-what in the punch bowl.
    No fence will stop Hillary from increasing the H-1B count or from sending our jobs to her buddies at Tata, or from supporting the latest amnesty bill.

    Look at the list of crooks the Clintons pardoned. Add to that list, 22 million illegals Hillary will vote to give amnesty and citizenship to.


    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=21859
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1184118.stm



    Hillary brought Tata, of Bangalore, India, into upstate NY. Guess where the jobs went.

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    I'm so sick of Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy and John McCain -- they are an embarassment to this country ...

    I doubt if there was ever an Indian Chief that would smoke a peace pipe with Hillary Clinton -- she talks with a forked tongue -- talks out of both sides of her mouth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamie
    I doubt if there was ever an Indian Chief that would smoke a peace pipe with Hillary Clinton -- she talks with a forked tongue -- talks out of both sides of her mouth
    Hi Mamie, mostly true, however there are at least 2 Indians that already have - from Bangalore, India.
    The billpayers are thousands of American I.T. workers who sacrificed their jobs to Tata as they were forced to train their replacements from Bang Town, India.


    She already has two very powerful buddies who are Indian and Chiefs:




    Subramaniam Ramadorai, Tata CEO
    and

    Ratan Tata

    What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamie
    I'm so sick of Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy and John McCain -- they are an embarassment to this country ...

    I doubt if there was ever an Indian Chief that would smoke a peace pipe with Hillary Clinton -- she talks with a forked tongue -- talks out of both sides of her mouth
    Now on the news yesterday we had Kennedy saying he will back Kerry in the 08 presidential run. So McCain vs Kerry, two who were traders against their fellow vets. My write in will be for porky pig he would be more trust worthy
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    this is really pathetic -- they have even replaced our American Indians with foreign Indians

    I wonder if Clinton, Kerry and McCain will follow the lead of the Mexican presidential candidates that kicked off their campaigns in Los Angelos ....

    to get off on the right foot, these three should just kick their campaign's off in Mexico City since the Mexican vote is so important to them, that way the American people can see where their loyalties lie
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    Move from archive News to General Discussion Topic 2016 information.


    These articles, to me, show that Hillary is not good for America. JMO
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