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    HOMOCIDES IN SAN FERNANDO VALLEY




    HOMOCIDES IN THE SAN FERNANDO VALLEY


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    I hate to say this, but I am going to anyway, I made myself a promise that I was through with playing the politically correct game, until these homicides start happening to Senators, Congressmen, Judges, the Aclu, and their family members,it will only count with the citizens of America, not with anyone of importance, it just does not matter to them unless it touches them!Hopefully, soon if these deaths at the hands of illegal immigrants have to keep happening here it will be to these people!
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    I agree with that as I have said the same. The number of homicides is large and they seem to be concentrated in certain areas. I am curious as to what neighborhoods they are.
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    San Fernando Valley, is just north of Los Angeles, Mexico.

    Of the 85 homicides listed for just this year, I count approximately 54 victims with a Spanish surname. 55 if John Doe is really Juan Doe. And it could be higher if some of the females have married names.

    The Murder Count for 2006 is 65% Hispanic for this area.

    41 OF 81 HOMOCIDES WERE GANG RELATED WHICH IS ABOUT 50%.

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    In my city for all of this year we had 2 homicides. One was committed by a Caucasian hoodlum from El Cajon on a Hispanic teen over drugs, and the other was committed by a Mexican on a Mexican American who was in the U.S. Army. That murderer is still at large after his family members dropped him off at the Mexican border


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    POLICE ARREST SISTER OF WANTED TEEN !


    GUARDSMAN'SDEATH:
    "She's not saying much. The manhunt is still on," an officer says.

    07:10 AM PDT on Thursday, June 16, 2005

    By TAMMY McCOY / The Press-Enterprise
    Suspect Sought

    Murrieta police arrested the sister of a murder suspect and continued the manhunt for a 19-year-old Mead Valley man wanted in last week's shooting death of a California Army National Guardsman.

    Patricia Pena Urrea, 24, was arrested Monday night at her home on suspicion of being an accessory to murder after police found Fabian Cayetano Urrea's pickup near the Hemet woman's apartment on Buena Vista Street, Murrieta police Sgt. Jim Ganley said Tuesday.

    "She said that he came over," he said. "She's not saying much. The manhunt is still on."

    The arrest came after police served search warrants at the Hemet woman's home and another nearby residence.

    This latest development has shocked the family of Fabian Urrea, who is accused of killing of Spec. Jorge Estrada. The guardsman, who had recently returned from Iraq, was shot Thursday in Murrieta.

    Margaret Arambula, Fabian Urrea's maternal aunt, said her family wants the 19-year-old to stop running.

    "We want him to turn himself in," she said. "Bring an end to this. This has to stop."

    Jorge Estrada, 24, returned to Murrieta from Baghdad days before his wife, Diana Vicky Estrada, 20, gave birth to Urrea's child, Diana Estrada said.

    Arambula said her nephew went to the Jackson Avenue apartment complex where Estradas lived Thursday morning to visit newborn Liliana Estrada.

    The two men argued in the parking lot about child custody, and Estrada was shot three times in the chest, police said.

    Murrieta police found two 9 mm shell casings at the crime scene.

    Ganley said they found the third casing in the bed of the truck, which they believe had been dumped in Hemet on the day of the shooting.

    "It was locked up and covered with dust," he said.

    Ganley said they have still not found the murder weapon.

    Patricia Pena Urrea is being held at the Robert Presley Detention Center in Riverside with bail set at $500,000. She was not charged with any crime on Tuesday. Prosecutor Stephen Gallon said a decision on charges is expected to be made today.

    Ganley said a team of 10 Murrieta police officers is working on this case.

    "We are up and running until about midnight or 1 a.m. and back up again at 6 a.m.," he said.

    Murrieta police Sgt. Bob Landwehr said the last murder reported in the city occurred in August 2004.

    "It's unusual for us to have a murder a year," he said.

    This is actually the second homicide that Murrieta police have investigated in 10 months. Amber Frink, 21, was stabbed with a bayonet on Aug. 13, 2004, and found in the upstairs bedroom of Dustin Waid Stanford's home on Del Val Drive. Stanford is charged with murder, and a trial is scheduled for June 20.

    Reach Tammy McCoy at (951) 375-3729 or tmccoy@pe.com

    Murrieta police are asking anyone with information about Fabian Urrea's whereabouts to call investigators at (951) 461-6358 or (951) 696-3615.

    Murder in Murrieta: One year later

    By: JOHN HALL - Staff Writer

    MURRIETA ---- Diana Estrada knows, no matter how difficult it may be at times, that she must go on.

    She must stay strong for her daughter, Liliana.

    Today marks one year since Diana Estrada was standing in the parking lot of a Murrieta apartment, holding her 3-day-old daughter, when her former boyfriend allegedly gunned down her husband, Jorge. And a year later, police remain frustrated as the man accused of killing Jorge Estrada remains at-large, most likely in Mexico.


    "It's as if it just happened yesterday, it's that fresh in my mind. Not like it has been a year," Estrada, 21, said Thursday. "Not a day goes by that I don't think about it."

    Jorge Estrada, a 24-year-old Army National Guard specialist, had come home on emergency leave just five days earlier from active duty in Iraq so he could be with Diana as Liliana was born.

    "I can still remember his eyes when she was born," Diana Estrada said. "He was so excited about the baby."

    Murrieta police have said that Jorge Estrada believed he wasn't Liliana's biological father, yet he accepted the baby as his own. Diana says he couldn't wait to be a dad.

    But the man believed to be the biological father, Fabian Cayetano Urrea, prevented Jorge Estrada from being Liliana's dad, police say.

    Urrea has yet to be caught and police believe he's hiding in Mexico, which haunts Murrieta detectives, who want badly to bring him to justice.

    "We're not gonna stop until he's in custody," Detective Sgt. Jim Ganley said. "Fabian Urrea is always on our minds."

    Even though tips stopped coming in about January, when details of the case were broadcast ---- for the second time ---- on the television show "America's Most Wanted," it remains the highest priority for the police department.

    The memories

    Urrea, now 20, is accused by prosecutors of murdering Jorge Estrada about 7:40 a.m. at the Camden Vineyards Apartments on Jackson Avenue. Police say the Mead Valley man fired three shots from a 9 mm handgun at point-blank range, killing Estrada.

    Police say Urrea called Diana Estrada that morning, wanting to come over and see the baby he believed to be his. There was an argument about custody of the infant, then Urrea pulled a gun and fired, hitting Estrada twice in the chest and once in the stomach, according to court documents.

    Urrea said something similar to, "I told you, I told you so. I told you I was gonna get you" before he sped off in his pickup, documents state.

    The shooting, and the memories that come from it, forced Diana Estrada to move from the area. She said she left within two weeks.

    "It's too much just to be around there," she said.

    While she continues to battle to distance herself from the bad memories, she keeps the good ones close by.

    In her bedroom are photographs of herself and Jorge, including their wedding pictures. They were married on New Year's Eve, less than six months before he was killed.

    In a glass case, there is a United States flag, presented to her by Army officials after her husband's funeral. It is displayed on what Diana calls her "memory wall."

    Her most special memory of Jorge, however, is Liliana. It was Jorge who picked out her name.

    "I tell her that her daddy is in heaven now," Diana Estrada said.

    Liliana is starting to walk now and "is mumbling things," her mother said, adding that she seems to be a very happy baby.

    It's the little things like that which Diana says keep her going.

    "On my bad days, she helps me get back up," she said, adding that she still has many more bad days than good ones.

    "Some days I feel like I don't want to go on," she said. But those thoughts pass because of Liliana. "I realize I need to go on for her."

    What Diana Estrada says would really help is for Urrea to be found or to turn himself in.

    "I always wonder how it is that he's still out there somewhere," she said.

    Family helps escape

    After Urrea fled the shooting scene, a massive police manhunt followed, but, with the help of his family, Urrea made it across the Mexico border, which is where police believe he remains.

    "Everything points to that," Ganley, the detective sergeant said.

    That's a huge frustration to him and Detective Jeff Ullrich, who has headed up the murder investigation.

    "No one is fighting harder for (Estrada) than the two of us," Ganley said. "Here's a U.S. soldier, defending my constitutional rights, putting his life on the line and he's gunned down in a country, a state, a city, where he's supposed to feel safe. For no good reason."

    "It puts a pit in my stomach that we haven't got (Urrea) yet," Ganley said.

    Both Ganley and Ullrich say they are certain that members of Urrea's family know where he is and still refuse to cooperate with police, even having deceived detectives previously.

    "No one we've ever talked to has a single bad thing to say about (Estrada)," Ullrich said. "He accepts a baby that wasn't his, and then he's executed in a parking lot after just getting back from overseas," Ullrich said.

    "Then (Urrea) flees the country, like a coward. His family knows where he's at and they don't care. This guy needs to be brought to justice" Ullrich said.

    "He has gotten away with murder, literally," Ganley added.

    So what's it going to take to get Urrea? Ganley has an answer.

    "It's gonna take someone who knows where he's at to have a conscience," he said. "And the Urrea family doesn't give a crap."

    Two relatives of Urrea, his sister Patricia and aunt, Margaret Arambula, were arrested after he disappeared. Both pleaded guilty to being accessories to Estrada's murder. It was Arambula who drove Fabian Urrea to Calexico where she dropped him off.

    Ullrich said no reward has ever been offered for Fabian Urrea's arrest and conviction. That's something the detective believes could make a difference.

    "In Mexico, that would help," he said. "If he's in Mexico, money talks."

    Return for justice

    The murder of Estrada and subsequent search for Fabian Urrea is easily one of the biggest investigations ever in Murrieta, police say.

    Ullrich has three large binders, each about 6 inches thick, filled with details of his investigation.

    Detectives say there have easily been multiple thousands of hours spent on the case, not just by police in Murrieta, but also other agencies which have helped.

    With the belief that Urrea is in Mexico has come a need to work with law enforcement authorities across the border.

    Ganley says police here have a good relationship with Mexican authorities, but that they are having the same problems there as here. "They just aren't getting any tips" as to Urrea's whereabouts, he said.

    Police here have been told that it won't be a problem to return Urrea to the U.S. should he be located in Mexico. "We had to provide proof to (Mexican officials) that (Urrea) is not a Mexican citizen and that this is not a death penalty case," Ganley said.

    But before any return to the United States can take place, Urrea must be found and arrested.

    That would also help bring a least a bit of closure to Estrada's widow.

    "I want this whole situation to just be over with," Estrada said.

    She also describes Urrea as a coward.

    "The anger I have builds up more the longer he's still out there," she said. "If he really loved the baby, like he said he did, he'd turn himself in and accept the consequences."

    Police ask that anyone with information about Fabian Urrea's whereabouts call Ullrich at (951) 461-6312.

    Contact staff writer John Hall at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2628, or jhall@californian.com.

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    We have alot of homicides in Miami and most are also gang related. The majority is African American on African American. I still partially blame the Hispanics though as they are the ones who brought their iilegal drugs here and started selling them on our streets. Gangs would not be what they are today if it weren't for illegal drugs.
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    Oh well, our President seems to be taken with drug dealers in our country and our of our country, seems he likes to give the drug dealers pardons 15 of them just the other day, he would much rather forgive those freaks then the 2 border guards trying to do his job for him, that job trying to keep the drug dealers out of our country, what did they git for their trouble? Persecution!
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    It ticks me off to no end. When you an innocent 18 month child get killed instead of the gang member father it really makes you mad.
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