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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightNail
    uhmmm. I humbly disagree.

    I say abolish the IRS, and replace it with NOTHING! Like Ron Paul wants to do. The Federal income tax on your privates monies is not constitutional. If the OBESE Federal government got out of nation building, and the nanny state we would NOT NEED THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX!!!

    SO, besides that.. I am with you.

    END THE IRS COMPLETELY. NO need for it. Greed, printing money out of thin air, borrowing & interest are the ONLY reasons you are taxed by the Federal government...
    Absolutely.
    But while we're at it we might as well adjust all of their income resources back the way it should be, if they want it, they have to earn it and have something to show for their earnings like we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOamNASTY
    I am still finding out about Ron Paul, some of his policy on Israel bothers me . He seems to think Israel is behind most of our problems . I don't think they are . Israel is in the middle of uncivilized nations who have caused violence everywhere they go . I don't care for some of israels policies but do think they have a right to exist .

    Otherwise I like what I know about Ron Paul .
    Well the current administration has encouraged, and basically forced, Israel to give up some of there land to the uncivilized, so what is the difference?

    Israel may very well be better off without our globalist corporate regime interfering with their sovereignty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOamNASTY
    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    isn't Ron Paul advocating a "flat tax".....I am all for it!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am still finding out about Ron Paul, some of his policy on Israel bothers me . He seems to think Israel is behind most of our problems . I don't think they are . Israel is in the middle of uncivilized nations who have caused violence everywhere they go . I don't care for some of israels policies but do think they have a right to exist .

    Otherwise I like what I know about Ron Paul .
    No, you got it wrong. But this is expected as MSM (main stream media) and people who WANT this war, and poeple WHO WANT THE FREE money love to paint Ron Paul as some Israeli hater... BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE.

    Ron Paul believes in Self -governance... You talk as if those surrounding Israel are barbarians, but where do you get this impression? The media.. who supports this.. We give tens of billions of dollars to israel. But not only that, and what you don't see is that he also wants to stop funding for other nations too... stop this nation building. When you interfere with other nations it prevents them from sorting out their own business. But remember, this 'our' monies going to many different countries - not back to us?

    Also, think on this.. the government is handing out tens of billions of dollars to other countries, but we did what for the victims of Katrina?

    Just like this country is moving towards the nanny state, we have this same idea to other countries.. we prevent their own self-reliance by funneling billions to them, AT YOUR EXPENSE. If 'certain' people want to give money to Israel, or Egypt -- they can... they can write their OWN CHECKS. KEEP OUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF ENTANGLING ALLIANCES.

    The idea behind Ron Pau is Freedom, true freedom. You don't realize how much freedom we have given up on this war on a Tactic! - Terror. How can you possible EVER WIN THIS WAR.. there is NO enemy, but some adjective... Legislation is passed, open borders are the norm etc.. and this is our "foreign intervention, this globalist agenda"..

    We have 700 bases in over 130+ countries... who pays for all of that? YOU and ME! Why? If we cared so much about security, why have let Darfur fall into oblivion?

    What Ron Paul was saying is that certain Lobbying groups hold complete power and sway over government officials. That SHOULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN. WHO Represents us then? AIPAC is one of these lobbies, hugely powerful and hugely influential in the media... ever wonder why all the middle easter countries are barbarians, heinous creatures who want us all killed.... Also, the NRA is also HUGELY Powerful and they are now corrupt.... so, who is truly representing us Americans? We have been asleep too long and just like this immigration issue, it is all tied in and now we must fight for the right to be american again....

    If you get a moment, watch these video: They have music, so I am partial to them, but you will get a sense of how this "Ron Paul Revolution" is feeling.. these wars, these open borders, this taxation, this move towards the nanny state, are all tied together...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DqY8iIxe2c
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXRnM55o6Ew

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    Why not put every Government Official that has anything to do with the changes in Immigration on a commission basis.
    Exactly!!! I've always said we should pay ICE officers a commission only salary. This is a job Americans would be more than happy to do! And public officials should have a huge pay cut if they refuse to enforce the existing laws! We taxpayers are getting NOTHING for our money...it's time to start hitting the politicians where it hurts...their wallets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad
    isn't Ron Paul advocating a "flat tax".....I am all for it!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Ron paul is not for a flat tax. He wants to abolish the IRS and replace it with no tax. That sounds even better to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanMe
    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    Why not put every Government Official that has anything to do with the changes in Immigration on a commission basis.
    Exactly!!! I've always said we should pay ICE officers a commission only salary. This is a job Americans would be more than happy to do! And public officials should have a huge pay cut if they refuse to enforce the existing laws! We taxpayers are getting NOTHING for our money...it's time to start hitting the politicians where it hurts...their wallets!
    State and local governments must not have a problem giving Police Officers commissions for tickets, we see them setting up positions at the end of each month!
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