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Originally Posted by Kate
My kitties are waiting in the wings.....time to pull out the anti-Bush avatar.
an anti Bush avatar will always get my support :wink:
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No offense intended Cassie. :) But you've kind of been all over the map on the amnesty question. Maybe you are still trying to decide where you stand, which is your prerogative. You began your posts stating that you did not have a position for or against amnesty. Then in another thread you said you did not support amnesty. Here you say well maybe some can stay. All along you've said you support Hillary and other Democrats who are falling all over themselves to grant amnesty. Okay, so the war is very important. But the Dems are unwilling to even take tough action on the war or cut off funding so Bush has to pull troops out. I'm just confused.
I apologize, I know I've been confusing, but this is because I'm learning new things every day here on alipac, which make my opinions change. I was a Hillary supporter, untill someone here gave me a link that gave cards to all presidential candidates and their stance on illegal aliens, and Gore scores very high. So, I switched from Hillary to Gore. I voted Gore in 2000 of course. Gore doesn't support amnesty, he scores an A - !
I'm against amnesty to 99% of the illegals here, but I also understand that you'll never be able to get rid of all illegals. I'm just being realistic. Who cares about 0,1% illegals if we can manage to get rid of 99,9% of them ??
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Most voters irrespective of party affiliation are against illegal immigration and open borders.
I'm glad that you see this, and don't think that Democratic voters are open border supporters. :wink:
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Unfortunately, Democratic POLITICIANS do not care whether Democratic or Republican voters are against amnesty. They have made it very clear that the opinions and votes of average Americans do not matter to them.
Gore cares, anyway, the Democratic politicians know that they can't win the White House over illegal immigration. Republicans like Hunter and Tancredo, or even McCain and Giuliani are more anti illegals than most Democratic politicians, Gore is an exception. The Democratic party knows they can't win the 2008 elections on this issue, and that's why they want the war to be the main topic.
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They have set their sights on illegal aliens becoming future voters, and don't really care what you or I think. They are looking toward the day when they will have a permanent underclass reliant on them for entitlements, and they do not intend to disappoint!
You have no evidence for this all. The same I can say about the Republicans that they want cheap labor and people that are Catholic.
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When are people going to understand that Hillary, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, McCain and Kennedy are ALL in it for themselves?
They don't care what any of us want. The Democrats in particular have denied their traditional base of the poor and working class. Amnesty sure as heck will not make their lives better, and the middle class will be stuck with paying trillions of dollars in entitlements and other services for those given amnesty. And the next generation will have to deal with the ever-increasing national debt. Dems such as Zoe Lofgren (CA) are currently working on trying to increase H1B limits to put even more middle class Americans out of decent paying jobs.
the H1B is not the problem here. When you have 10 million illegal aliens, who cares about 65,000 people that come here legally through the H1B ? The H1B is for scientist and university educated people, they won't force our middle class out of jobs. Most Americans are not even university level educated, at least I'm not but I understand that a medical expert from Germany can be useful to this country, that's why we have the H1B. Or a surgeon from Denmark.
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The Democrats are simply ignoring all of the things that are inconsistent with their desire to grant amnesty. They are all over the global warming issue now but refuse to talk about population growth that will come from amnesty, which will make it next to impossible to reduce carbon emissions. And then there's the environmental damage.
I told this before that the Democrats contradict themselves. they care about the poor, but force the poor into more poverty through illegal immigration. they care about education, but our schools are being scuked dry by illegal kids. They care about the environment, while we have millions of illegal aliens driving here in Ca.