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    (IBD) Washington Navy Yard Shooting, Like Ft. Hood, Is Another Clinton Gun-Free Zone

    (IBD) Washington Navy Yard Shooting, Like Ft. Hood, Is Another Clinton Gun-Free Zone Fail

    Security: As the usual suspects call for stricter gun control, the fact remains that a gunman with two prior gun-crime arrests entered a secure military facility with a stolen ID and found no one able to shoot back.




    It was Fort Hood all over again. Aaron Alexis, a gunman whose prior…

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    Navy Yard Shooting Another Clinton Gun-Free Zone Fail

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    Deadly gun-free zones. View Enlarged Image

    Security: As the usual suspects call for stricter gun control, the fact remains that a gunman with two prior gun-crime arrests entered a secure military facility with a stolen ID and found no one able to shoot back.

    It was Fort Hood all over again. Aaron Alexis, a gunman whose prior behavioral warning signs were ignored, opens fire in an installation belonging to the most powerful military on Earth and those who protect our nation and design our weapons are not allowed to have a weapon to defend themselves.

    He was more equipped than the 12 people he killed on the base who were not permitted to carry weapons on the base, thanks to former President Bill Clinton.

    In 1993 the president issued orders that barred members of the military and their civilian contractors from carrying personal firearms on base. Even officers were disarmed under the law.

    Almost as soon as Clinton assumed office, in March 1993 the Army imposed regulations forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms and making it almost impossible for commanders to issue firearms to soldiers in the U.S. for personal protection.

    That ban extends to virtually all U.S military bases and related installations.

    Under the ruling enacted by the Clinton administration, there must be "a credible and specific threat against personnel" before military personnel "may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection."

    This was the reason that the Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was able to go on a rampage for a full 10 minutes in 2009 without being stopped.

    This is why, at Fort Hood, home of the heavily armed and feared 1st Cavalry Division, a civilian policewoman from off base was the one whose marksmanship ended Hasan's terrorist rampage, to this day obscenely called "workplace violence," denying survivors and the dead medals and benefits.

    The liberal reaction to the Navy Yard massacre mirrors the reaction, after Fort Hood, of Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

    He opined, "This latest tragedy, at a heavily fortified army base, ought to convince more Americans to reject the argument that the solution to gun violence is to arm more people with more guns in more places." What?

    On Monday night, anchor John Roberts asked Mandy Foster, the wife of one of the soldiers shot at Fort Hood, how she felt about her husband's upcoming deployment to Afghanistan. She responded: "At least he's safe there and he can fire back, right?" Safer than at the Washington Navy Yard or Fort Hood.

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    9 Potential Mass Shootings That Were Stopped By Someone With A Personally-Owned Firearm

    Can law-abiding citizens with guns combat mass shootings?
    posted on September 17, 2013 at 6:45pm EDT
    Ryan Broderick BuzzFeed Staff


    1. The Pearl High School shooting

    Via murderpedia.org

    Oct. 1, 1997
    Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother and went on to kill two students and injure seven others at his high school. Woodham was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, a U.S. Army Reserve commander, who detained Woodham by using a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol he kept in his truck, until authorities could show up.

    Myrick stopped Woodham from going across the street to the middle school.

    2. The Parker Middle School dance shooting maps.google.com



    April 24, 1998
    Andrew Wurst showed up to his middle school dance with his .25-caliber pistol. He fired it killing a teacher, wounding a second one, and injuring two students. The 14-year-old’s shootout lasted about 20 minutes. It was ended when James Strand, the owner of the banquet hall the dance was happening in, confronted Wurst with a personally-owned shotgun. He ordered Wurst to drop his weapon and held the teenager in place for eleven minutes before finally getting him to drop his weapon, lay on the ground, and then searched him for other weapons.

    3. The Appalachian School of Law shooting

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    January 16, 2002
    A 43-year-old Nigerian former student Peter Odighizuwa arrived on campus with a handgun. There are different variations of the story, but according to eye-witness accounts, two students Tracy Bridges, a county sheriff’s deputy, and Mikael Gross, a police officer, ran to their cars after hearing gun shots and grabbed personally-owned firearms. They approached Odighizuwa, ordering him to drop his firearm, he did and was subdued by unarmed students.

    Three people were killed and three others were wounded

    4. The New Life Church shooting

    Via blutube.policeone.com

    Dec. 9, 2007
    A former police officer from Minnesota named Jeanne Assam was at church when a 24-year-old gunman named Matthew Murray began firing at parishioners in the parking lot. Murray claimed two victims before Assam opened fire on him with her personally owned concealed weapon. After receiving multiple hits from Assam, Murray then shot himself.

    5. The Trolley Square shooting
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    Feb. 12, 2007
    Sulejman Talović killed five people and wounded four others in 2007 when he began firing in a public square in Salt Lake City, Utah. He carried a shotgun and a backpack of ammunition. He was eventually stopped in a shootout involving Salt Lake City Police Department SWAT that took place in a Pottery Barn Kids. He was cornered, however, by off-duty police officer Kenneth Hammond, who held him in position before authorities could arrive.

    Hammond ran on scene after hearing gunshots fire out while having an early Valentine’s Day dinner with his pregnant wife at a local restaurant.

    6. The Golden Market shooting

    Via maps.google.com

    July 19, 2009
    The details are murky but according to reports, a man entered a Golden Market in Virginia in 2009 and began firing a gun. He shot and wounded the clerk and then began firing at patrons inside. He ran out of ammo was attempting to reload when he was shot, wounded, and then subdued by a permit holder who happened to be in the store.

    7. The New York Mills AT&T store shooting
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    May 27, 2010
    Off-duty police officer Donald J. Moore stopped Abraham Dickan, a 79-year-old man who decided to shoot up an AT&T store in New York Mills, N.Y. Moore was in the store when Dickan entered brandishing a .357 magnum and a hit-list of employees he planned to kill in his pocket. Moore heard Dickan’s gun go off, drew his own personal weapon, and killed Dickan on scene.

    One AT&T employee was injured in the shooting.

    8. The Clackamas Town Center shooting

    STEVE DIPAOLA / Reuters

    December 11, 2012
    Two people were killed and a third was seriously wounded in Clackamas County, Ore., when Jacob Roberts opened fire in a local shopping mall. Nick Meli, a shopper in the mall, drew a personally-owned firearm on Roberts, who then retreated. Meli did not fire his weapon, for fear of striking bystanders.

    9. The San Antonio Theater shooting

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    Dec. 16, 2012
    In December of last year, gunfire broke out in a San Antonio movie theater. Moviegoers rushed to exists and ducked for cover as a lone gunman, Jesus Manuel Garcia, began shooting in a China Garden that spilled over into an attached movie complex. The San Antonio Police Department were fired at by the gunman and had to evacuate and seal off the complex.

    The gunman was eventually shot and struck by an off-duty police officer, Lisa Castellano, who was working at the theater that night.


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    Leads us to Exhibit B and a 'No Duh!' moment.

    Without exhibit A, there would be no Exhibit B.
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    Interesting facts. Please follow closely: Exhibit A (Above)
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