Thread: are "illegal Aliens" really "immigrants"

I believe that teh term ""illegal Aliens" is used in US law to mean people who are in the US unlawfully.

I have the feeling that, and would need someone to confirm or deny, that an "immgrant", according to US law is someone who has made official representation of their desire to live in the US. And if this can be confirmed then we have a proper way to separate "illegal aliens" from "immigrants" and therefore shut up those who say that we are anti-immigrant and really then concentrate on law breakers.

Immigration Terminology 101

With the vitriolic immigration debate roiling in all parts of our country, it is important to understand terminology. Be prepared to dispel the half-truths and no truths of the way those who are illegally in our country are described by their advocates. Knowledge is power:

ILLEGAL:
1.) Unlawful; illegitimate; illicit; unlicensed.
2.) Illegal, unlawful, illegitimate, illicit, criminal can all describe actions not in accord with law.
3.) Illegal refers most specifically to violations of statutes.
4.) Prohibited by law

ALIEN:
1.) a person who is not a citizen of the country.
2.) in the United States any person born in another country to parents who are not American and who has not become a naturalized citizen. There are resident aliens officially permitted to live in the country and illegal aliens who have sneaked into the country or stayed beyond the time allowed on a visa.

INVADE:
1. to enter like an enemy: Locusts invaded the fields
2. to enter as if to take possession: To invade a neighbor's home
3. to enter and affect injuriously or destructively, as disease: Viruses that invade the bloodstream.
4. to intrude upon: To invade the privacy of a family.
5. to encroach or infringe upon: to invade the rights of citizens.
6. to permeate: The smell of baking invades the house.
7. to penetrate; spread into or over: The population boom has caused city dwellers to invade the suburbs

Those illegally in a country are not "immigrants". There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant". An immigrant is involved with an established and orderly procedure of immigration (entering a country to which one is not native in order to settle there by legal process).

They are not immigrants, not undocumented immigrants (Kennedy and the PC fan favorite), not undocumented workers, not undocumented Americans (Harry Reid’s favorite), not economic immigrants (Big Business and Wall Street favorite), not immigrants without work papers, not people who are working (Enrique Morone’s favorite), not migrant workers, not entrants, not day laborers and not the “unbankedâ€

United States Code TITLE 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY CHAPTER 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY SUBCHAPTER II - IMMIGRATION PART VIII - GENERAL PENALTY PROVISIONS

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U.S. Code as of: 01/03/05 Section 1325. Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of - (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (c) Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both. (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.



Maybe we should change it to IMPROPER ALIENS. LOL

Terminology

The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the primary federal agency tasked with enforcing the Immigration and Nationality Act, defines an "alien" as "any person not a citizen or national of the United States"[4] The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the primary body of federal immigration law in the United States, also defines the term "alien" as “any person not a citizen or national of the United States.â€

The term "illegal alien" is the CORRECT legal designation for ANY foreigner here UNLAWFULLY. Because it DOESN'T sound at all attractive, the pro-illegals insist on using the term "undocumented." The problem with THIS, however, is that "undocumented" means UNAUTHORIZED, and "unauthorized" means ILLEGAL! Like LOTS of other concerned American patriots, I favor simply CONTINUING to TELL it LIKE it is by calling illicit foreigners what they REALLY ARE--ILLEGAL ALIENS!

No, illegal aliens are not immigrants. They can never be immigrants as they have violated immigration laws. They can never be citizens for the same reason.