Illinois Board of Elections declares Cruz a natural-born citizen

[pkskyali]

Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen the day he was born. ...

If one parent being a US citizen made Ted Cruz a US citizen even if he was born in Canada, then what is the role of the other Canadian citizen parent? Do you endorse the other fraud of "dual citizenship"? Remember that Ted Cruz himself claimed dual citizenship until he recently renounced Canadian citizenship.

Just because you can get courts to declare something legal doesn't make it legal. Courts can be wrong -- or corrupt.

[Judy]

Especially on issues that impact Presidential elections.

I love your tag line, pkskyali:

No person whose parents were not both US citizens​ at the time of their birth is a US citizen nor is any of their descendents. I will not ever cast my vote for anyone whose parents were not both US citizens at the time of their birth.

[MW]

If one parent being a US citizen made Ted Cruz a US citizen even if he was born in Canada, then what is the role of the other Canadian citizen parent? Do you endorse the other fraud of "dual citizenship"? Remember that Ted Cruz himself claimed dual citizenship until he recently renounced Canadian citizenship.

Just because you can get courts to declare something legal doesn't make it legal. Courts can be wrong -- or corrupt.

Of course I do not support dual citizenship. However, you need to understand that it was a circumstance of birth that gave Cruz dual citizenship, it wasn't something he asked for or necessarily wanted. It is not something he ever used. Remember, he and his mother left Canada at when Ted was 4 years of age and never looked back. Besides all that, dual citizenship is no longer an issue.

[pkskyali]

Of course I do not support dual citizenship. However, you need to understand that it was a circumstance of birth that gave Cruz dual citizenship, it wasn't something he asked for or necessarily wanted. It is not something he ever used. Remember, he and his mother left Canada at when Ted was 4 years of age and never looked back. Besides all that, dual citizenship is no longer an issue.

Sorry, but you are not even making any sense.

Of course it was a "circumstance of birth". Birth circumstances is what the issue is all about. Who cares if he "asked for it or ... wanted it", that has no legal bearing on the issue. Of course he used it, how else could he claim US citizenship, and why did he renounce Canadian citizenship if he never used it?

If Ted lived in Canada for four years and was born in Canada, he has never been a US citizen and his positions as an elected official in the US are illegal.

[MontereySherry]

This whole thing of having dual citizenship and being born to two U.S. citizens is really a tricky issue. You can actually be born to 2 U.S. citizens and be born in the U.S. and still have dual citizenship. The U.S. does not require anyone give up their citizenship to the country they were born in to become a U.S. Citizen. It is usually a requirement of the foreign country.
Canada and Mexico are two countries that do not require this.

For instance a Canadian citizen can become a U.S. citizen, not renounce their citizenship to Canada and have a child in the U.S. That child is not only considered a U.S. citizen, but can also be a citizen of Canada. Their are a lot of children in the U.S., Canadian and Mexican that this applies to. This is an issue that should be looked at and possibly reformed but I think it is more complicated then most of us think.

[JohnDoe2]

. . . This is an issue that should be looked at and possibly reformed but I think it is more complicated then most of us think.

It's really nice to have someone suggest that an issues needs to be looked into and possibly reformed instead of insisting that they, and only they, already know what MUST be done and anyone who doesn't agree with them has to be wrong. THANKS

(And, YES, most issues are "more complicated than most of us think."

[pkskyali]

This whole thing of having dual citizenship and being born to two U.S. citizens is really a tricky issue. You can actually be born to 2 U.S. citizens and be born in the U.S. and still have dual citizenship. The U.S. does not require anyone give up their citizenship to the country they were born in to become a U.S. Citizen. It is usually a requirement of the foreign country.
Canada and Mexico are two countries that do not require this.

For instance a Canadian citizen can become a U.S. citizen, not renounce their citizenship to Canada and have a child in the U.S. That child is not only considered a U.S. citizen, but can also be a citizen of Canada. Their are a lot of children in the U.S., Canadian and Mexican that this applies to. This is an issue that should be looked at and possibly reformed but I think it is more complicated then most of us think.

"The U.S. does not require anyone give up their citizenship to the country they were born in to become a U.S. Citizen."

It does. Here is the first sentence in the US oath for citizenship:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

Perhaps your problem is with the term "sovereignty". This is a broad term that includes nations with citizenship, but does not exclude any state whatsoever whether they institute citizenship or not.

Recall again the whole idea of citizenship which was revolutionary at the time we fought for it in the American Revolution. The French in their revolution also were fighting for citizenship and the term "citizen" was a title of respect among those of revolutionary spirit in those times.

At no time ever in the ideological struggles to institute citizenship in the new Republics did anyone ever put forth the idea that citizenship should ever extend across borders. And there were many contacts between sympathetic revolutionaries among the French and Americans. Citizenship was an expression of patriotism and patriotism was the driving sentiment for seizing power. Love of country and creating a bond among its people was the basis of citizenship.

The integrity of citizenship does not need reforming, it needs enforcement.

The institution of citizenship as it exists in other countries is of no concern to us. None. You are either a US citizen or not and the demands for exclusive loyalty are not available for international negotiation.

[JohnDoe2]

Dual Citizenship with the United States
@ http://www.alipac.us/f12/dual-citizenship-united-states-145536/
2/17/09


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:: Dual Citizenship: the status of an individual who is a citizen of two or more nations

The concept of dual citizenship recognizes that a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both. The mere fact that he/she searched the right of one citizenship does not mean that he/she renounces the other.

Nonetheless, official U.S. policy has been to discourage the incidence of dual nationality. The Government accepts but does not recognize or approve of dual nationality. The Government accepts it: "only as the result of separate conflicting laws of other countries."

The only restrictions on dual nationals who are U.S. citizens are that nonimmigrant visas cannot be issued to U.S. citizens and they must enter the U.S. with a U.S. passport.

The following is a partial list indicating which countries recognize dual citizenship. The list is based primarily on a survey of every country in the world. The question presented was "If a citizen of (the country in question) acquires U.S. citizenship, does he or she retain or lose (the country in question's) citizenship? In the list below, "Retain" means that the individual DOES NOT lose his or her prior citizenship upon naturalizing in the U.S. "Lose" means that the individual DOES lose his or her prior citizenship. Where possible, the list in annotated to provide additional relevant information.

If a country is not listed, it either did not respond to the survey or there was no information otherwise available. We don't guarantee accuracy of information contained in this page. You are encouraged to confirm with the respective Embassy.

:: List of Countries

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> ALBANIA (Retain)
> ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA (Retain)
> ARGENTINA (Retain)
> AUSTRALIA (Retain) As of April 2002
> AUSTRIA (Lose) retaining is possible with permission.
> AZERBAIJAN (Lose)

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> BAHRAIN (Lose)
> BARBADOS (Retain)
> BELGIUM (Lose)
> BELIZE (Retain)
> BENIN (Retain)
> BOLIVIA (Lose)
> BRAZIL (Retain) the individual should declare acquisition of U.S. Citizenship at a Brazilian mission or consulate.
> BRUNEI (Lose)
> BURKINA FASO (Retain)

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> CAMBODIA (Retain)
> CANADA (Retain)
> CHILE (Retain)
> CHINA PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC (Lose)
> COLOMBIA (Retain)
> COSTA RICA (Retain) effective June 27, 1995
> CROATIA (Retain) the individual must follow specific procedures to renounce
> CZECH REPUBLIC (Retain) As per new law signed by President Havel in 1999

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> DEMARK (Lose)
> DOMINICA (Retain)
> DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (Retain)
> ECUADOR (Retain)

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> EL SALVADOR (Retain)
> ESTONIA (Retain) 1940 to 1992, as formal release was required (Lose) 1992 to present

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> FINLAND (Retain)

> FRANCE (Retain)

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> GERMANY (Lose)
> GHANA (Retain)
> GREECE (Retain)
> GRENADA (Retain)
> GUATEMALA (Retain)

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> HONDURAS (Lose)
> HUNGARY (Retain) unless it is renounced by a declaration not given in criminal proceedings, and no tax issues apply.

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> ICELAND (Retain)
> INDIA (Lose)
> IRAN (Retain)
> IRELAND (Retain)
> ISRAEL (Retain)
> ITALY (Retain) for Italian citizens who acquired or reacquired another citizenship after August 15, 1992. However, due notification of any (re) acquisition must be given to local Italian civil records office (or Embassy) no later than three months after its occurrence.

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> JAPAN (Lose)

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> KOREA (Lose)
> KUWAIT (Lose)
> KYRGYZ REPUBLIC (Lose)

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> LATVIA (Retain)

> LEBANON (Retain)
> LESOTHO (Retain)
> LIECHTENSTEIN (Retain) with diminished rights and protections.
> LUXEMBOURG (Lose)

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> MALAWI (Lose)
> MALAYSIA (Lose)
> MALTA (Retain)
> MEXICO (RETAIN)
> MONACO (Lose)
> MOROCCO (Retain)

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> NAMIBIA (Retain)
> NEPAL (Lose)
> NETHERLANDS (Retain under conditions)
> NEW ZEALAND (Retain)
> NICARAGUA (Lose)
> NIGERIA (Retain)
> NORWAY (Lose)

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> PAKISTAN (Retain) as of December 2002.
> PANAMA (Retain)
> PAPUA NEW GUINEA (Lose)
> PERU (Retain)
> PHILIPPINES (Retain) RA 9225, which took effect on 17 September 2003, declares that former natural-born Filipino citizens who acquired foreign citizenship through naturalization are deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under conditions provided in the Act

> POLAND (Retain)
> PORTUGAL (Retain)

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> RUSSIA (Retain) the individual's acquisition of another citizenship will usually not be acknowledged).
> RWANDA (Lose)

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> ST. CHRISTOPHER AND NEVIS (Retain).
> ST. LUCIA (Retain)
> SAUDI ARABIA (Lose)
> SINGAPORE (Lose)
> SLOVAK REPUBLIC (Retain) Dual US and Slovak citizenship as from 1997.

> SLOVENIA (Retain)
> SOUTH AFRICA (Lose) an individual loses citizenship upon becoming a US Citizen; however, citizenship may be retained upon request prior to becoming a US Citizen, or by subsequent application.
> SPAIN (Lose)
> SRI LANKA (Retain)
> SWAZILAND (Lose)
> SWEDEN (Retain)
> SWITZERLAND (Retain)

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> TONGA (Lose)
> TURKEY (Retain)

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> UGANDA (Retain)
> UNITED KINGDOM (Retain)
> URUGUAY (Retain)

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> VENEZUELA (Lose)

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> ZIMBABWE (Lose)

http://www.us-immigration.com/informati ... nship.html

@ http://www.alipac.us/f12/dual-citizenship-united-states-145536/

[JohnDoe2]

MEXICAN DUAL NATIONALITY PROGRAM

PRESERVATION OF MEXICAN NATIONALITY
(Dual Citizenship)

NATIONALITY LAW EXTENDED INDEFINITELY

6/12/07

* It will strengthen links among Mexicans at home and abroad.

* It will allow Mexicans to keep their nationality after adopting another one from a foreign country.
* It will give individuals who may have lost their Mexican nationality, an opportunity to recover it.

The Nationality law which allows the preservation of Mexican nationality, regardless of the acquisition of another nationality or citizenship, is effective as of march 20th, 1998. This law, which is based upon a constitutional reform approved unanimously by the Mexican Congress on December 1996, will allow Mexicans who live abroad and decide to adopt a foreign nationality or citizenship, to keep their Mexican nationality. It will also allow those individuals who were originally Mexicans and are now citizens of another country, to regain Mexican nationality.

1.- Background

The Mexican provisions regarding nationality, in effect over the last decades, stated that any Mexican who obtained another nationality would lose their Mexican nationality.

This has implied that Mexicans living abroad have had a face a dilemma regarding naturalization: on the one hand, if they became naturalized in their host countries in order to improve their migratory and legal status, they lost their Mexican nationality and all of their rights. On the other hand, if they did not obtain another nationality so as to retain the Mexican one, they were unable to fully exercise their rights in their host country.

In order to find a solution to this matter, on December 10, 1996, the Mexican Congress approved President Ernesto Zedillo's initiative regarding Articles 30, 32 and 37 of the Constitution which allows Mexicans to preserve their nationality, regardless of acquisition of another nationality or citizenship.

These reforms will also allow those Mexicans who are already citizens of another country to regain Mexican nationality.

2.- Who may benefit from this amendment
Mexicans living abroad, and willing to be naturalized as citizens of their host country, will be able to obtain that nationality while preserving the Mexican one.

Mexicans who have already acquired another nationality will be able to regain the Mexican one. Children of Mexicans at birth or naturalized will be able to acquire Mexican nationality.

For those Mexicans who have lost their nationality, there will be a period of five years, beginning the day of the entry into force of the amendment, in which they may recover it. The procedure of the followed is ready to be implemented as of March 20, 1998 and its simplicity and efficacy are ensured.

3.- Main benefits

The constitutional reforms and the new law provide the necessary legal framework to the principle of "Non-forfeit of Mexican Nationality", a long awaited demand be Mexicans living abroad. These Mexicans communities have long wished to preserve the rights the Mexican Constitution grants to its nationals and to maintain cultural and family ties with Mexico.

Mexicans living abroad will be free to travel and live in Mexico whenever they wish to do so, without having to comply with complicated formalities or apply for permits required for foreigners.

They will be able to buy land without any of the restrictions applied for foreigners.

Likewise, none of the restrictions regarding inheritance and employment, concerning foreigners, can be applied.

Mexicans who regain nationality will continue to pay taxes in the country where they reside and earn income.

Mexicans living abroad will not be required to serve in the Mexican armed forces. They will only be required to register at the age of 18, either in Mexico or at its consulates or embassies.

4.- Implications on Voting Rights

Unlike other countries, Mexican legislation establishes a distinction between nationality and citizenship. Nationality refers to how people feel they belong to their country.

Nationality is based on one's place of birth and the origins on one's parents. Citizenship implies nationality, as well as, the exercising of political rights which are acquired upon reaching legal age and residence among other requisites. The constitutional reform only modifies provisions related to nationality.

This amendment is not related in any way with the right to vote. So far, no Mexican living abroad is able to vote in any election held in Mexican territory.

Voting is related with citizenship. Thus, the possibility of eventually voting abroad is being separately analyzed and, in any case, would be regulated by The Federal Code of Electoral Institutions and Procedures. Thus, the nationality constitutional amendment and law do not affect voting matters.

DECLARATION OF MEXICAN NATIONALITY

The Mexican Government is granting the opportunity to people of Mexican decent who are naturalized citizens or citizen by birth of another country, to recover their Mexican Nationality.

To obtain the Declaration of Mexican Nationality, the interested party must meet the following:

REQUIREMENTS

Be at least 18 years of age and of sound mind.

Complete the application at the Mexican Consulate.

Present the following documents in original and two photocopies:

If the person was born in United States:

A Certified copy of the Birth Certificate, apostilled by the Secretary of State of the issuing authority.

Original or certified copies of the Mexican father or mother's birth certificate.

http://www.alipac.us/f19/mexican-dua...program-63179/

[MW]

Sorry, but you are not even making any sense.

Of course it was a "circumstance of birth". Birth circumstances is what the issue is all about. Who cares if he "asked for it or ... wanted it", that has no legal bearing on the issue. Of course he used it, how else could he claim US citizenship, and why did he renounce Canadian citizenship if he never used it?

If Ted lived in Canada for four years and was born in Canada, he has never been a US citizen and his positions as an elected official in the US are illegal.

Of course Ted Cruz was born a U.S. citizen. That is a fact that has never been in dispute. The only thing some folks have a question about is if he is considered a natural born citizen.

Since Cruz no longer has dual citizen, it's no longer an issue or relevant. Actually it never had anything to with his U.S. citizenship. Furthermore, when I say Cruz never used his Canadian citizenship, I mean he never voted in Canada or gained any benefits from it.