Thread: Vietnamese for Fair Immigration

These people suffered under communism, unlike the millions of illegal aliens coming from Mexico. They lost their homes and business during the war, lived in worse conditions then our "friends" to the south, fought along side with Americans.These people form Vietnam came here legally They are sticking up for the American people and think it is unfair of our government to burden us with this.

http://www.fairimmigration.com/id3.html

NO RACIST AMNESTY
Earned legalization" as passed by the Senate DOES NOT send illegal aliens to the back of the immigration line. Illegal aliens are ALREADY at the front of the line. Compared to legal immigrants waiting for a visa, most illegal aliens have a high paying job, access to US health care and education, plus their babies are granted automatic US Citizenship and all it's benefits. "Earned legalization" would add the $4400 Earned Income Credit and in-state college tuition to the benefits illegal aliens would receive ahead of legal immigrants. The only way for illegal aliens would be at the back of the immigrant visa line is for them to return to their country of origin.


"Elimination of Discrimination Based on National Origins
.... The use of a national origins system is without basis in either logic or reason. ..... such a system is an anachronism, for it discriminates among applicants for admission into the United States on the basis of accident of birth."

These words were spoken by President John Kennedy in 1963 when he asked Congress to eliminate discrimination based upon the existing National Origins Quota Immigration policy. President Kennedy also said:

"natives of no one country should receive over 10 percent of the total quota numbers authorized in any one year. This will insure that the pattern of immigration is not distorted by excessive demand from any one country."

Unfortunately, although President Kennedy's legislation was enacted into law, immigration discrimination has not ended, only the countries involved have changed. As noted earlier and for the reasons detailed below, Mexico has recently contributed 32% of US immigrants.
LEGALIZING ILLEGAL ALIENS IS PREFERENTIAL
TREATMENT FOR LATIN AMERICANS
There are 20 million illegal aliens in the US because the U.S. does not make an effort to deport their internal illegal aliens, and as noted earlier 80% of these illegal aliens are from Latin America. The U.S. does not even require businesses to make a quick verification that their employees can legally work in the U.S. Yes, it is against the law for illegal aliens to work in the U.S. This non-enforcement is why the illegal alien population of the U.S. increases by 600,000 every year!

Rather than enforce the immigration laws, the U.S. instead has over the years legalized millions of illegal aliens, most of them Latin Americans.

As noted above, the U.S. also bestows citizenship upon the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens (again mostly Latin Americans). When the child turns 21 they can sponsor their parents to become legal residents. This is another method of legalization for illegal aliens and is why these children are called "anchor babies." They provide the basis upon which their entire illegal alien family and relatives can become legal U.S. residents. About 400,000 anchor babies are born in the U.S. every year.

The "earned legalization" bills being considered by Congess would increase Mexico's percentage of US legal immigrants from 32% to about 50%. Even without legalization the percentage of Mexican immigrants to the U.S. will increase due to anchor babies. We agree with President Kennedy that this "discriminates among applicants for admission into the United States on the basis of accident of birth."

The legalization of illegal aliens and citizenship for anchor babies discriminates against Vietnamese and non-Latino immigrants based on the accident of them not being born in a country close to America. What the U.S. govenment should do instead of legalization is reduce this discrimination by enforcing the immigration laws.

Negative Impact on Vietnamese and non-Latino Immigration


Previous legalizations for illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children has had a negative impact on the number of non-Latino immigrants allowed into the U.S., and the amount of time they have to wait before being allowed to enter.

The U.S. has two basic family-based immigration categories. The first is for immediate relatives of U.S. citizens. The second, called family preference, is for adult children and siblings of U.S. citizens and immidiate relatives of legal residents. This category has an annual cap on the total number of admittances, and the cap has never been increased to reflect all the additional legalized illegal aliens.

The millions of illegal aliens from Latin America that have been given legal status and U.S. citizenship then sponsor their relatives for legal immigration. Adding to this is Section 245i of the immigration code, which allows legal residents to sponsor illegal aliens they marry, and naturalized U.S. citizens to sponsor their adult children and siblings that are illegally in the U.S. All of this additional sponsorship, most of it by Latin Americans, increases the number of people on the family preference waiting list. The net effect is increased immigration from Latin America and decreased immigration from non-Latin America countries.

The following chart shows the great differential between Vietnamese, who never received any legalization, and Mexicans, who have benefited the most from legalization. Keep in mind that the population of Mexico and Vietnam are similar.
While the immigration bill recently passed by the Senate would temporarily decrease the family preference waiting time, once legalized illegal aliens received citizenship and began sponsoring their relatives, the waiting times would start increasing again and would eventually be longer than todays waiting times.

If illegal alien babies were no longer given US citizenship, and if legalized illegal aliens and anyone they have sponsored were not allowed to sponsor relatives through the family preference category, then Vietnamese and Mexican family immigration would be more equal, and waiting times would be substantially reduced. Without raising the worldwide cap on immigration, under this equalizing plan Vietnamese immigration into the U.S. would increase 20 to 40 percent.

The same type of increase would also occur for other nations that contribute low percentages of illegal aliens.







We (Vietnamese) came through the process legally.
So others should get in line to get their papers"
Van Tran, California State Assemblyman

We feel the U.S. should treat illegal aliens the same way other countries treat their illegal aliens, and how Vietnamese illegal aliens and their children were treated. Vietnamese and non-Hispanics will be treated fairly and no longer be discriminated against by the U.S. Government if it does the following:

1. Enforce all immigration laws. At a minimum these enforcement measures should include:

A) Businesses should be required to check the validity of new employees Social Security or work permit numbers.

B) Local and state law enforcement officers should verify the citizenship and immigration status of everyone they apprehend. Every illegal alien they apprehend should be detained and transferred to the Homeland Security Departments ICE division for deportation.

2. Children born to illegal aliens and guest workers in the U.S. should not be given U.S. citizenship. The U.S. is totally out of step with the rest of the world in this regard.

3. Any long term guest worker program (1 year or more) should only include foreigners outside the United States, not illegal aliens inside the U.S. To protect the wages of Vietnamese-Americans and all Americans, the guest worker recommendations of the Jordan Commission should be followed.

4. We support U.S. investment in high immigrant sending countries to create more opportunities there. For example, we support the proposal where the U.S. would match any new funds Mexico spend on infrastructure, education, and law-enforcement improvements if they also institute free-market and anti-corruption reforms. Since a dollar goes much further in these countries, many times more people could be helped this way instead of helping only a relatively few by letting them into the U.S.

5. The U.S. should not allow legalized illegal aliens nor anyone they sponsored to sponsor their relatives for family preference immigration. This would eliminate the increased waiting times past legalizations of illegal aliens has created. For the minor children and spouses of legalized illegal aliens, a seperate temporary category could be set up as was done from 1992 to 1994.

6. Waiting times and backlongs would be further reduced if the diversity visa category was eliminated and family preference immigration increased a similar amount. This would also increase U.S. diversity much more than the current system, since almost half of the diversity admitees are from Europe.



When we say additional we mean the illegal aliens that never would have been sponsored if they had not illegally entered the U.S or overstayed their visa. An example of this is someone who illegally entered the U.S. and then marries a legal resident. If they had not illegally entered chances are they would not have married a U.S. resident, and thus never would have been sponsored by anyone. We estimate 50% of Section 245i adjustees are in this category.

Another way to reduce the current discrimination against Vietnamese and non-Hispanics would be to greatly increase immigration numbers. But it must be remembered current immigration limits were arrived at after much study, for the best interests of the American people.

America is already the third most populous country in the world, and accepts half of the world's immigrants. Plus the current American population "living the American Dream" is already using natural resources at twice the rate they are being replaced, and is responsible for 25% of the worlds ecologic deficit.

Greatly increasing immigration numbers would have negative impacts on Americans economic conditions, social fabric, and natural environment. We are Americans first and Vietnamese second, and want what is best for America. We don't want to impose any additional burdens on the American people who have gratefully given us a new home in the land of freedom.


From their newsletter
http://www.fairimmigration.com/id6.html

(Printed in the Denver Post February 29, 2004)

Earn your citizenship

Vietnamese immigrants agree with Estevan Flores' recent editorial calling for the "earned residency" of illegal aliens - if they earn it the same way most Vietnamese did.

Vietnamese immigrants fought on the U.S. side against global Communism, losing 500,000 of our relatives in the process. We also lost our homes, country and everything we owned in this fight. Then we had to escape Communist Vietnam in small boats, where another 200,000 Vietnamese died, and were made to wait for years in refugee camps before being allowed into the U.S.

To Vietnamese, this is what "earned residency" means. All illegal aliens are welcome to earn their legal residency the same way. Any other type of earned residency is discrimination against Vietnamese.

Vietnamese for Fair Immigration
Lompoc, Calif.



(Printed in the Santa Barbara News Press October 9, 2003)

The "Immigrant workers freedom ride" should more accurately be called "U. S. citizenship and benefits for Latin America."

This ride does not represent Vietnamese immigrants. We already have much more freedom in the U. S. than we had in Vietnam.

We are offended and insulted by their misuse of the word immigrant, as what they really want is amnesty for illegal aliens. Calling illegal aliens "immigrants" or "undocumented" attempts to make these criminals who are a net drain on Americans equal to law-abiding Vietnamese immigrants who greatly benefited America.

Amnesty for illegals is discrimination against Vietnamese, and is a violation of our civil and constitutional rights, as there are no Vietnamese illegal aliens who would benefit from amnesty.

There were 120,000 Vietnamese illegal aliens in U.S. financed refugee camps, but they were all deported back to Vietnam in the 1990s.

Also, past amnesties for illegal aliens has reduced current Vietnamese immigration by about 30 percent.

Since most illegal aliens are Hispanic, Hispanics who want amnesty for illegals are also saying they want preferential treatment for Hispanics and discrimination against Vietnamese.

LeQuan Hoang
Director, Vietnamese for Fair Immigration



(Printed in the Houston Chronicle December 1, 2003)

End Anti-Vietnamese Immigration Bias
By LeQuan Hoang

Most Americans are not aware of how U.S. immigration policies discriminate against Vietnamese, but the discrimination is real and ongoing.

From 1975 until 1990, over one million Vietnamese escaped Communist imprisonment and brutality by fleeing Vietnam in small, leaky boats. Over 250,000 of these "boat people" did not survive the perilous 500-mile journey across storm-tossed seas infested with sharks and pirates.

Surviving the journey was only the first step in becoming an American. The boat people next had to wait for years in U.S.-financed refugee camps while their claims of political persecution were verified, and relatives or charities agreed to financially support them.

As it turned out,120,000 boat people could not prove political persecution, were thus designated illegal aliens, and deported back to Vietnam. Most of these Vietnamese illegal aliens in fact did not suffer political persecution, and were only looking to earn more money in the U.S.

Furthermore, the children born in the refugee camps were by international law not citizens of any country, but designated as "stateless". Even after entering the U.S. with their parents, these stateless children do not become U.S. citizens unless their parents became citizens after the required five-year wait.

Despite this history, the United States allows millions of Hispanic illegal aliens, who only want to make more money "for a better life," to remain in the U.S., and has given many of them permanent resident status and citizenship through amnesty. There are proposals now in Congress to grant amnesty to millions more. Additionally, children born to these illegal aliens are also automatically granted U.S. citizenship.

It should also be noted that Hispanics illegal aliens given legal residency and citizenship are now sponsoring their relatives for entry into the U.S., thus crowding Vietnamese (and others) out of the legal immigration system. Vietnamese immigration into the U.S. is thus perhaps 30 percent lower due to past illegal-alien amnesties.

On the other hand, even though Hispanics are only 7% of the worlds population, they are 50% of U.S. immigrants. This is preferential treatment for Hispanics, and discrimination against Vietnamese.

Since billions want to come to the U.S. "for a better life," the only solution to this discrimination is to treat all illegal aliens the same way Vietnamese illegal aliens were treated. The U.S. should also treat children born to illegal aliens the same as the rest of the world.

The U.S. Government will no longer discriminate against Vietnamese if it does the following:

* Enforce all immigration laws. At a minimum the following steps should be taken:

A) All businesses should be required to check the validity of new employees� Social Security Numbers. All this requires is a quick phone call or Internet linkup to SSA. The INS already has proven this works well in a pilot program. Without jobs, most illegals will leave of their own accord.

B) Local and state law enforcement officers should be allowed to verify the citizenship and immigration status of everyone they stop/apprehend. The CLEAR Act currently in Congress would allow and fund this.

C) The Department of Homeland Security should double the number of interior enforcement officers and detention facilities.

* Children born to illegal aliens, visitors, and guest workers in the United States should not be given U.S. citizenship. The United States is totally out of step with the rest of the world in this regard.

* The U.S. should not allow illegal aliens who were adjusted to permanent resident status, their U.S. born children, and anyone sponsored by either group, to sponsor any of their relatives for immigration. The U.S. should put all of these people on a "Not eligible to sponsor" list.

In no way do we want the U.S. to increase immigration levels as compensation for amnesty to Hispanics and citizenship to illegal aliens babies. The current limits on family-based immigration were arrived at after much study. These limits are in the best interests of the American people. We don't want to impose any additional burdens on the American people who have graciously given us a new home in this land of freedom.

LeQuan Hoang is Director of Vietnamese for Fair Immigration

I hope they have some money behind them for lobbying, otherwise they will get swallowed up by the fat cats with the more money.

I did notice that they have alipac on a link

AMEN!

Indeed, it appears that the ONLY immigrants that consistantly label America as being racist...are ILLEGAL immigrants.