Thread: Indian IT companies logged in most H-1Bs in 2008

Every single job mentioned in the article below is a job an American can do, but our government insists on throwing Americans out of work so that unqualified and untrained workers from India can be put to work at a salary lower than that Americans would earn in the same job and it is killing the American workforce. George Bush, John McCain, Hillary Clinton and now Obama are extremely fanatical about encouraging American corporations to bring in low wage slaves from India to throw Americans out of work...


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Fea ... 203067.cms

Indian IT companies logged in most H-1Bs in 2008
28 Feb 2009, 0051 hrs IST, Pankaj Mishra, ET Bureau

BANGALORE: Top Indian tech firms such as TCS, Infosys and Wipro, apart from scandal-hit Satyam Computer Services, received maximum number of H-1B work permits last year, as these companies sent more professionals to the US in order to serve customers such as Citibank, GE and Bank of America.

While India's second-biggest software exporter, Infosys, led the list of H-1B visas issued last year with around 4,559 work permits, Wipro received 2,678 approvals, Satyam managed some 1,919 and TCS received around 1,539 H-1B permits.

According to the data released by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), Microsoft, the world's biggest software maker, stood fourth in the list of top H-1B users with around 1,037 work permits for foreign workers. "In this environment, it would be very difficult for a newly elected administration to increase the H-1B quota beyond 65,000 currently," a US-based consultant who helps companies file H-1B applications told ET on conditions of anonymity. "The recent H-1B scam has also raised many eyebrows here," the consultant added.

Wipro, which serves customers such as GE and Citibank in the US, is aiming to leverage its existing H-1Bs, apart from delivery centres in the US in order to mitigate any short to medium term risks. "Based on our inventory of visas and with more work moving offshore, we do not see any short term impact in 2009-2010," said Pratik Kumar, corporate VP, HR, Wipro. Granted by the USCIS, around 65,000 H-1B visas were issued to immigrants from companies such as Microsoft, Cisco, TCS, Infosys and Wipro last year. Each H-1B visa costs around $6,000.

As customers in the US seek to reduce their IT spending, offshore IT firms might not need as many work permits this year. "It is likely that H-1B applications this year may not be as high as past, when the cap used to be reached on the first day or during the first week of filing," said Eshan Joshi, associate VP, HR, Infosys.

Meanwhile, according to Morley J Nair, a Philadelphia-based immigration attorney, the demand for these visas has far exceeded the supply in recent years. In 2007, 123,480 H-1B petitions were received in the first two days of filing and USCIS had to stop accepting further petitions. In 2008, the filing period was kept open for five days, and more than 163,000 petitions were filed, including 31,200 against the advanced degree quota.

We have over 1,000,000 IT workers out of work and they're still letting out 65,000 H-1B visas?

Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Judy

We have over 1,000,000 IT workers out of work and they're still letting out 65,000 H-1B visas?

Unbelievable.

Read the story I found below. The CTO office Obama appointee Vivek Kindra was in charge of was a leader in fraudulent, corrupt H-1B and offshore labor practices that were meant not only to throw qualified Americans out of work, but also to transfer sensitive Federal government information and information about American citizens to companies in India that are staffed with employees we don't know! If American citizens are required to get government security clearances for this kind of data, why are employees in Indian firms who handle this data not required to have security clearances as well?

Is Obama going to prove himself to be a good leader and ban this dangerous and American job destroying practice once and for all?


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Obama's CIO Vivek Kundra Previous Close Employees Arrested for Fraud, Bribery

Submitted by Robert Oak on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 01:31. bribery fraud H-1B

Insourcing/Outsourcing Kundra outsourcing Vivek

This is one hell of a story. One week after President Obama announced his new CIO of the United States, the FBI raided the very office where Kundra just held the position of CTO and arrested Kundra's former CSO and another former employee, for massive fraud and bribes.

D.C.'s top IT security official charged with bribery

Arrested this morning was Yusuf Acar, who currently is the District of Columbia's acting chief security officer; police said they found $70,000 in cash in his Washington home. Acar's annual salary is $127,468, according to court documents.

The second suspect arraigned on bribery charges is Sushil Bansal, CEO and founder of Advanced Integrated Technologies Corp. (AITC), a Washington-based outsourcing vendor that has won a number of contracts from the district's IT department.

This is where Vivek Kundra was CEO just one week ago. Bansal is on a H-1B guest worker Visa, previously worked also for D.C. city government and magically started his own company for which he is now indicted for fraud and bribery by the FBI.

Now there are multiple questions.

How can someone on a temporary non-immigrant H-1B Visa start a company in the United States in government and in security?

Secondly, how can the Obama administration put someone in a CIO position with these kind of connections and seemingly is promoting offshore outsourcing?

How in God's name can the government even promote the offshore outsourcing of government jobs? How can the government not realize the security issues in using offshore outsourcing?

How many other government contracts, I.T. security issues do we have these kind of offshore outsourcing agenda, bribes, hand rubbing and so on?

This is not the direction you want to take a ever more critical security area, never mind the fraud, bribery and abuses.

Now even more unbelievable, Bansal was named entrepreneur of the year by the Association of Indians in America.

Ok, the entrepreneur of the year is somehow on a non-immigrant Visa yet seemingly self-sponsoring and forming a company which was pure fraud and bribery all the while offshore outsourcing American jobs.

The relationships of these people being former, close employees of Vivek Kundra at minimum shows incredibly bad judgment. It's hard to imagine one not being aware this was going on under their nose...

What was Kundra doing in the first place using a H-1B for a government job? There are numerous Americans out of work who have all of these skills and yes, they too can incorporate themselves and manage a firm...and they can do it even without fraud, bribery and abuse!

So, considering those facts, who knows what the FBI will discover, I'm just glad they are looking.

This is government, security issues and that assuredly should require U.S. citizenship so why was anyone on a temporary Visa even allowed to apply or provide any services in the first place?

More to come on the details but at minimum putting someone so close to offshore outsourcing and H-1B Visas as the top CIO sends a horrific message to all U.S. workers.

It's supposed to be our government....right?

This Washington City Paper pulled out some of the FBI document details.

Revolutionize procurement? Maybe not exactly the way you think!

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People Fed up with H-1b and Outsourcing have been handed a gift
Submitted by Anonymous Drive-by (not verified) on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 07:28.
I've noticed a new phenomenon. Mainstream media will report on an issue they normally black out (like this one or anything H-1b) after everyone already knows about it, and is talking about it, just so the blackout doesnt become so obvious

Even the right wingers wont touch this one, becsause it's cheap labor.

It's essential the blogousphere get this one out - this is a wooden stake to drive through the H-1b/Outsourcing industry vampire's evil heart

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You Hit on the Red Dot
Submitted by Anonymous Drive-by (not verified) on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 13:51.
All the propaganda for Pro-H1b specially CNBC but no news regarding the damage that these guest worker visas has done to the following industries: Information Technology, Engineering, Architecture, Science. Well Heck even hotels bring in H1b workers.

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A Hint of Curry in D.C.
Submitted by Gregman2 on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 13:00.
Nothing like a little tikka massala with your Java and
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I love curry
Submitted by Robert Oak on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 13:16.
Seriously, there are many people, who are U.S. citizens screaming bloody murder at global labor arbitrage, offshore outsourcing, guest worker Visas and they are of an Indian ethnic background....
so one must judge from one's deeds. This is much more about citizenship, which country do you identify yourself with and really has an effect on particular career "wipe out" experience most of all...

than any cultural identity. Think national identity and that's where the "curry" issue comes in. There is no doubt India is trying to capture the services sector, especially all of I.T. as well as STEM, thinking this is a "trade" issue....and they use guest worker Visas, offshore outsourcing, the U.S. educational system, by any means and method!

But the thing here is we have many U.S. citizens of "variety pack" ethnicity but they are also getting the shaft in these career areas...

So, it's a matter not only of citizenship but really is that person an American? The reason I put this second condition on citizenship is so many recent "citizens" are simply using U.S. citizenship status to better assist their home country....they do not take citizenship to mean anything more than a nice business feature to enable the shipping of jobs, sectors, industries to their "real" country...

i.e. they are not loyal to the U.S. believe in the U.S., consider the U.S. home or other any real affinity with other Americans...

But there are a host of other people who sure as hell do take it all seriously, just as someone who has a 400 generational American ancestry....

So, it's not an ethnicity issue.

So, please be sensitive with your curry and let's put the real focus on nationality, i.e. which country and economy are you for anyway?

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In the old days
Submitted by seebert on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 15:41.
To become a naturalized citizen of the United States, one had to renounce one's old country and government.

Perhaps today, we need to get them to renounce their corporation as well.
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Moral hazards would not exist in a system designed to eliminate fraud.

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The cases happened during his Watch
Submitted by Anonymous Drive-by (not verified) on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 13:48.
If a ship runs aground on a reef, the Captain is still responsible even though he was not the one at the helm. Same here, the corruption and contracts happened on Vivek Kundra's watch as the CTO of DC. In fact, for the company in question, the contracts doubled when Vivek started as the CTO of DC. If Obama keeps this guy on the Federal CIO job we are doomed; he will have free reign on the contracts. He should be charged for incompetence as being the CTO of DC. If he can't handle DC what more on several federal agencies.

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Submitted by Gregman2 on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 13:50.
You are correct to point out that this is primarily a labor issue and HB-1 is effectively a means through arbitrage to discount cost for value added services. Fact: India and China offer heavy state subsidies to educate their workers.
(China also invests heavily in its manufacturing infrastructure...roads, freeways, ports, airports, etc.)
Why does the U.S. subsidize foreign students that come here to study? Is it because it ultimately benefits U.S. Hi-tech corps? If so, are those corps. repaying for this subsidy through taxes? Offshoring, outsourcing, HB-1...these are all part of a singular subsidy structure that has succeeded in off-shoring our entire manufacturing supply chains. The myth propogated is that we don't churn out enough qualified engineers and scientists. I know plenty of non-foreign engineers and MBA's that are either unemployed or under employed. The managements of our U.S. Companies (and our tax rules) have failed us by giving incentive to offshore.

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Academia, cess pool
Submitted by Robert Oak on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 14:06.
That's one area that hardly gets any attention as in zero and we know they are labor arbitraging in research with H-1B and also, extensively, post docs, sometimes using the J-1 Visa.

I've written a few things noticing a much less quality and time degree is being accepted into U.S. PhD programs, directly, not just the Masters...which is a "BSc" but these vary and there are now reports of people with less than 2 years of education deemed "higher" are getting straight into U.S. graduate programs.

Then the rejection rates are higher for U.S. citizens than foreign students in many schools but even more suspect, we have reject rates for graduate school hitting > 80%!

Then, I sure would like to see a statistic sampling of all funding for all schools, especially U.S. higher education receiving state and federal funds.....based on citizenship status. I've heard reports that foreign students are getting funding and U.S. citizens are getting denied...

well, that's pretty odious considering not only did the U.S. student get into grad school, but they are cutting the mustard just fine.

But, one needs to look at aggregate data to prove a pattern (or disprove one)....

Then, isn't it amusing the politicans always talk about "retraining"? Well, how do you "retrain" someone with a BS/BA, MS/MA, PhD?.....

at minimum they need to return to graduate school, or get in for another Masters or another PhD!

It's also pretty damn odious where someone with these levels of education, work experience and skills cannot find a job!

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The FBI was informed of the fraud and bribery in March 2008
Submitted by rahcn on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 20:14.
The FBI was notified of the fraud and bribery by an employee and began their investigation in May. Kundra was in charge at the time and though has not been named in released FBI documents, I am sure his new assignment will be removed from him and the Obama Administration will have to find a replacement.

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I think you are right, but "replacement" is key
Submitted by Robert Oak on Fri, 03/13/2009 - 20:30.
The other candidate was the Cisco CTO, someone who was moving anything and everything over to India and China as fast as they can, demanding unlimited H-1Bs, thrashing, Churning their workforce....

The key question is why is the Obama administration not looking at the many gurus who either went to DARPA or started in DARPA?

Why are they not sticking to national security and the national interest in this post?

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Cisco...?
Submitted by Gregman2 on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 09:02.
Why not go down the list...Microsoft, Cisco, Oracle. Hard to find any mid-level executive white guys floating around any of these any more.(Sorry if that sounds politically incorrect.

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