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    Illegals now divided into two groups...needs to be addressed

    I will give the Mexican people kudos...they are a very very proud people... Proud to be Mexican...not American and this WILL NEVER CHANGE...no matter what the laws are.

    I could post 100's of nasty videos of pro AmNasty and supposed Apaio abuse. But as we have seen...our government cares not for what our laws are or in protecting America. WHY? These are my thoughts: (like it really matters...)

    1. I can only reason that the New World Order for control is using the immigration tactic to further incite, separate and bring to our knees the American people... as we see many on both sides of the issues and the marches. This horrific hideous covert operation by government far surpasses the in-your-face of the Reconquista that is bringing in 1 to 2 million more illegal "solders" each year to support this WAR. We help fight internal wars all over the world while ignoring the ones here. If this continues to be ignored the results could be catastrophic. They went after the little Branch Davidians but ignore this situation? That's crazy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNNXcnnD70

    2. We also see that it is getting to a boiling point. That violence is threatened from both sides. It makes me sick and queasy just watching the videos. Law informed cannot do its duty even under a normal traffic stop because of supposed "racial profiling." The Mexicans feel that not only are they above the boarder law but that they can brake any law and be absolved because they are illegal. A claim of national sovereignty to another Nation? The insanity reasoning is beyond me and I am looking for help to figure at what is going on.

    3. It is not illegal to promote change to law. Their are many laws that people want changed. Marijuana and illegal entrapment are notable. But I think it is still against the law to threaten violence. These "marches" of illegals are not to promote change in laws...it is to promote violence and hate against America and her people. To educate illegals and teach how to brake more laws to live in America to usurper ever way they can to disrupt the peace and the finances of America.

    This is twilight zone to me. While the news media...most notably Lou "the traitor" Dobbs promotes peace and a path to citizenship. The illegal movement is not interested in peace and a path to anything but the destruction of America and the Reconquista.

    Well...I could drown on and on... What am I attempting to say here? It is no longer a matter of illegals and deportation. They have declared war on America and her people. Any path to citizenship will only be used to further their War agenda...if it is used at all. I think many feel that citizenship is simply a "cop out" and they ware being an illegal as a badge of honer to their Mexican Nation. I can understand. I use to be a proud American.

    This will absolutely never change. Why? Because that is how it has always been. The war never ended. Wars never end. We may have overpowered the Mexicans but the war never ended for them.

    I cannot say with certainty that their is no Mexican true Americans? But I have lived and worked around them most of my adult life and even the peaceful ones still want their country back.

    I guess I am saying that something needs to be done to appose the Reconquista and its agenda. I noticed that at those marches that not "ONE" government representative shows up to speak. No Giraldo the traitor or any news cameras. Just a few citizens filming and I see Numbers tried their best.

    This is not a joke and the new HR order signed into law only made it that much worse. Obviously the immigration will come on line in full force soon. But I think that the question of divided and violent interests of the illegals must also be addressed. There are two groups now...how do you distinguish between the two? And how can we keep allowing marches promoting take over under the guise of peaceful immigration law change?

    I think these marches should clarify what they promote in the application...legal immigration or the Reconquista war effort. And if it is peace...than there should be no talk of American take over or American Flag desecration's. Now seriously...is that to much to ask? Do they have rallies like this in Mexico?

    I think this nice lady said it very clearly what is the difference in thinking:

    March For America - Phoenix / No Amnesty Rally; Clip 9:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vxzmk0F ... re=related

    It is easy to understand why they side lined this issue before the HR vote.

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    Illegals now divided

    Immigration is all about diversity and
    BEING DIVIDED". There is an INTENTIONAL plan to dilute the values, culture, language, religion, and PATRIOTISM of the American people. It is also CLASS WARFARE.
    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." This is communism. The U.S. MUST give up Constitutional rights before the New World Order can control us. The U.N has been working toward this goal for decades.
    It is happening faster than I ever thought possible. The rich vs the poor. The Hispanics vs the whites. The uneducated vs the educated. the heterosexuals vs the homosexuals. The faithful vs the faithless.
    Those who remember The American Revolution vs those who want to "Fundamentally Change" our nation.
    Forget the PC nonsense. The survival of freedom in America is being threatened. There will come a day when we will have to choose sides.

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    Re: Illegals now divided

    Quote Originally Posted by Texan123
    Immigration is all about diversity and
    BEING DIVIDED". There is an INTENTIONAL plan to dilute the values, culture, language, religion, and PATRIOTISM of the American people. It is also CLASS WARFARE.
    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." This is communism. The U.S. MUST give up Constitutional rights before the New World Order can control us. The U.N has been working toward this goal for decades.
    It is happening faster than I ever thought possible. The rich vs the poor. The Hispanics vs the whites. The uneducated vs the educated. the heterosexuals vs the homosexuals. The faithful vs the faithless.
    Those who remember The American Revolution vs those who want to "Fundamentally Change" our nation.
    Forget the PC nonsense. The survival of freedom in America is being threatened. There will come a day when we will have to choose sides.
    No more trueisem ever spooken.

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    What I was trying to say is...marches and rallies should not be permitted as peaceful pro immigration reform when they are really Anti American Anti Flag Anti immigration law and pro Mexican government take over of America.

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    Strange...guess I'm on my own with this one... "sigh..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist
    Strange...guess I'm on my own with this one... "sigh..."
    Hardline, I've been reading ALIPAC from my ipod today so hard to respond on the little thing.

    Your post gives many of us food for thought and I bet most would agree with you. A few years ago, before I got involved with this movement, as friend told us that they want to take over. I didn't believe him. I thought he was going overboard with it. What I've seen the last few years has certainly changed my attitude on that. These IA's are NOT the kind of "Americans" we want here.
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    Thank You so much for the support... I was feeling really alone... I hope my babaling will make sense to others... We really have to take a step back and look hard at what has happned...before we can see what is happening now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist
    Thank You so much for the support... I was feeling really alone... I hope my babaling will make sense to others... We really have to take a step back and look hard at what has happned...before we can see what is happening now.
    Yes, the hard part will be convincing people who are on the "brink" of just starting to wake up to this IA travesty, that for the most part, your above post is true. It took me a while, but as I did my own research, I came to find out on my own that what you (and my friend) said is true. What a bitter pill to swallow...It was kind of like when 9-11 happend- I could not understand why other countrys hated us so much. It broke my heart.
    I think a lot of the hate directed towards Americans stems mostly from jealousy at what we've accomplished.
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    Figuring it all out...never going to happen. But much of the world looks to the USA as a search lite for democracy and freedom. This the very reason so many wanted to come here...even knowing they would be used and abused it was still better than where they came from and there was always that shadow of a doubt one in a million chance they might make it here simply because that chance did exist here.

    Jealousy of us...ummm envy maybe. There are many examples of the simple man or the oppressed man becoming rich. Sports and religious leaders...even politicians can become rich and on and on. But I am off point.

    The Mexican illegal immigration thing I think is not jealousy...it is hatred. Mexico "mines" the USA. Mexico has no interest in our well being. It is quite the obverse. If Mexico can't regain their lost land they will strip of peace and prosperity any way they can.

    The rest of the worlds interests vary. But self interest will also be at the forefront. Many have learned to love this country but their initial interest was not to come here to make America a better place to live. It was because America was already a better place to live.

    IMHO...Mexico never has and never will have the betterment of America at heart.

    Strange how only Americans can be considered bigots?

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    Re: Illegals now divided into two groups...needs to be addre

    Quote Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist
    I will give the Mexican people kudos...they are a very very proud people... Proud to be Mexican...not American and this WILL NEVER CHANGE...no matter what the laws are.

    I could post 100's of nasty videos of pro AmNasty and supposed Apaio abuse. But as we have seen...our government cares not for what our laws are or in protecting America. WHY? These are my thoughts: (like it really matters...)

    1. I can only reason that the New World Order for control is using the immigration tactic to further incite, separate and bring to our knees the American people... as we see many on both sides of the issues and the marches. This horrific hideous covert operation by government far surpasses the in-your-face of the Reconquista that is bringing in 1 to 2 million more illegal "solders" each year to support this WAR. We help fight internal wars all over the world while ignoring the ones here. If this continues to be ignored the results could be catastrophic. They went after the little Branch Davidians but ignore this situation? That's crazy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNNXcnnD70

    2. We also see that it is getting to a boiling point. That violence is threatened from both sides. It makes me sick and queasy just watching the videos. Law informed cannot do its duty even under a normal traffic stop because of supposed "racial profiling." The Mexicans feel that not only are they above the boarder law but that they can brake any law and be absolved because they are illegal. A claim of national sovereignty to another Nation? The insanity reasoning is beyond me and I am looking for help to figure at what is going on.

    3. It is not illegal to promote change to law. Their are many laws that people want changed. Marijuana and illegal entrapment are notable. But I think it is still against the law to threaten violence. These "marches" of illegals are not to promote change in laws...it is to promote violence and hate against America and her people. To educate illegals and teach how to brake more laws to live in America to usurper ever way they can to disrupt the peace and the finances of America.

    This is twilight zone to me. While the news media...most notably Lou "the traitor" Dobbs promotes peace and a path to citizenship. The illegal movement is not interested in peace and a path to anything but the destruction of America and the Reconquista.

    Well...I could drown on and on... What am I attempting to say here? It is no longer a matter of illegals and deportation. They have declared war on America and her people. Any path to citizenship will only be used to further their War agenda...if it is used at all. I think many feel that citizenship is simply a "cop out" and they ware being an illegal as a badge of honer to their Mexican Nation. I can understand. I use to be a proud American.

    This will absolutely never change. Why? Because that is how it has always been. The war never ended. Wars never end. We may have overpowered the Mexicans but the war never ended for them.

    I cannot say with certainty that their is no Mexican true Americans? But I have lived and worked around them most of my adult life and even the peaceful ones still want their country back.

    I guess I am saying that something needs to be done to appose the Reconquista and its agenda. I noticed that at those marches that not "ONE" government representative shows up to speak. No Giraldo the traitor or any news cameras. Just a few citizens filming and I see Numbers tried their best.

    This is not a joke and the new HR order signed into law only made it that much worse. Obviously the immigration will come on line in full force soon. But I think that the question of divided and violent interests of the illegals must also be addressed. There are two groups now...how do you distinguish between the two? And how can we keep allowing marches promoting take over under the guise of peaceful immigration law change?

    I think these marches should clarify what they promote in the application...legal immigration or the Reconquista war effort. And if it is peace...than there should be no talk of American take over or American Flag desecration's. Now seriously...is that to much to ask? Do they have rallies like this in Mexico?

    I think this nice lady said it very clearly what is the difference in thinking:

    March For America - Phoenix / No Amnesty Rally; Clip 9:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vxzmk0F ... re=related

    It is easy to understand why they side lined this issue before the HR vote.
    Closer to the truth than you might like: http://bit.Ly/9TOrsN

    p.s. you might need a good laugh right about now: Obama reacts to HC vote

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