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    Smith and Wesson trumps faulty stun gun

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    (Editor’s note: Colin Flaherty has done more reporting than any other journalist on what appears to be a nationwide trend of skyrocketing black-on-white crime, violence and abuse. WND features these reports to counterbalance the virtual blackout by the rest of the media due to their concerns that reporting such incidents would be inflammatory or even racist. WND considers it racist not to report racial abuse solely because of the skin color of the perpetrators or victims.) Videos linked or embedded may contain foul language and violence.

    The newspaper in Lansing, Mich., came so close to getting it right: An intended victim of the Knockout Game pulled a gun and shot and his attacker. So far so good.

    This version of the game had a twist: Instead of punching the victim in the face, the predator used a taser – a KL-800 Type Stun Gun capable of generating 1.8 million volts.

    The assailants had scouted the site, the victim and even practiced firing the taser. But then it all went wrong. Or right.

    When Marvell Weaver jammed the taser into the ribs of the still unidentified man and pulled the trigger, it jammed. The target pulled out his .40 caliber Smith and Wesson and shot Weaver as he tried to escape to the getaway van where two of his accomplices waited.

    According to

    “Weaver ran, sat down across the street, his leg going numb, bleeding. Pleading.

    “‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’” the teen told the man who had just shot him.

    He lived. This happened in May, while the intended victim was picking up his child at a school bus stop. The story came out this week.

    According to MLive:

    “The teen was hospitalized with a non-life threatening injury. At first, Weaver said he merely removed the stun gun from his pocket to look at it and the man shot him. He later confessed to the attack, records show.” took pains to put the attack in context, citing this statistic and that trend, but in the end, it pronounced the crime “random.”

    That caught the attention of readers and others throughout the country familiar with the Knockout Game as it is played hundreds of times in St. Louis, Champaign, Chicago and dozens of other cities around the country. Said a reader:

    The “game” is not random. It is a very racially charged “game” with very strong criteria for “target” selection.

    There are many, many reasons for “target” selection beyond “than they are there.” There is the inherent hatred of the participants along with their boredom and restlessness, accompanied by a “they got and I don’t, so what does it matter if I hurt them” mentality.
    In St. Louis alone, a judge said one person was responsible for 300 episodes of the Knockout Game. In Oklahoma, an accused killer of the Australian college student Chris Lane tweeted that he was “playing golf” and hitting “woods” prior to the murder earlier this month. Woods is short for “peckerwoods:” White people. The Knockout Game.

    He said he did that five times since the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin.

    The Knockout Game is documented in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence and how the media ignore it.” Many of the examples are on video, which readers of the new edition can see by scanning a QR code as they read about it in the book.

    In St. Cloud, Minn., a car full of black people came upon a college student in an alley walking two girls home from the library. The car screeched to a stop, one man got out, and hit 20-year old Colton Gleason in the face. He died.

    This week, Jesse Smithers told the court the attack was in self defense: Gleason and the two girls attacked his car.

    In Chicago, two black people played the Knockout Game with a father of 11. He died last year.

    In St. Louis last year, the mayor came upon the remnants of a Knockout Game when he found a badly beaten and bloody Matthew Quan in the gutter. Knocked Out. As he stopped his car, the black people sauntered away, laughing.

    One of the assailants was arrested but the charges were dropped after a witness disappeared. The mayor said she was threatened.

    The accused assailant died earlier this year when he was shot while breaking into someone’s house. He was 15. His grandfather said he was a good boy and this was another case similar to Trayvon Martin: a black person shot for no reason whatsoever.

    In St. Louis earlier this year, a black person was sentenced to life for the Knockout Game death of a 72-year old Vietnamese immigrant.

    In Alabama earlier this year, four members of the national championship football team were kicked out of school after three admitted to playing the Knockout Game two times on campus.

    In Syracuse, a man died this year after a black mob kicked his eye out playing the Knockout Game. This prompted a commentary from another resident of that city talking about his son’s experience as a victim of the Knockout Game.

    In Pittsburgh last year, several black people were caught on video punching a teacher in the face as they passed each other in an alley.

    That happened twice: Earlier that year, another teacher was almost killed as he slipped and fell in traffic while fleeing the Knockout Game, on video.

    Last year in Meriden, Conn., DeAndre Felton and his friend thought they found an easy mark for a bit of the old Knockout Game. They chose the wrong guy: He pulled a knife and killed DeAndre and wounded the other attacker. The attackers’ parents said their children were innocent, just like Trayvon.

    The list goes on and on. says this kind of evidence is “anecdotal.”

    But anyone looking at the hundreds and hundreds of anecdotes knows this: The victims can be white. Or Asian. Or women. Or homosexual. But this much they have in common: All of attackers in the Knockout Game are black.

    But wanted no part of that uncomfortable truth. Neither did some of its readers. “Please don’t tell me you’re bring[ing] the race card into play,” said one. Other said that perhaps Weaver could have taken the victim’s gun and done even more damage.

    Whatever the merits of ignoring the intensity and frequency and racial angle of this crime, some gun owners were happy with the story nevertheless.

    “MLive is great on firearms issues and crime coverage,” said Barry Shickinger. “And as a disclosure, I’m the executive director of the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners – Michigan’s largest state-based gun group and ally with the National Rifle Association.”

    While the people of Lansing try to sort out the best way to protect themselves, the prosecutor is trying to figure out how to charge Weaver.
    Weaver’s two accomplices – the ones who drove him and helped him scout the victim and watched the attack – were not charged. And some in Lansing worry Weaver may get off easy as well.

    Because the intended victim was not harmed, and there was “no evidence” Weaver wanted to rob him, prosecutors will not charge him with robbery or aggravated assault. A plea bargain conference is set for next month.

    Weaver is sorry, he told the victim in a letter:

    “I don’t blame you for what you did. You were only trying to protect yourself. I only wish I could go back to change it to were (sic) I never did it. .. Im very sorry.”

    Black mobs routinely terrorize cities across the country, but the media and government are silent. Read the detailed account of rampant racial crime in “White Girl Bleed a Lot: The Return of Race Riots to America”

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    'Point 'em out, knock 'em out': Brutal game ends when assault victim fires his concealed handgun

    By John Barnes |
    August 26, 2013 at 6:30 AM, updated September 05, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    This police evidence photo shows the .40-caliber Smith and Wesson police seized after a man with a concealed handgun permit shot a teen who attacked him with a stun gun. Nine rounds from the 10-shot magazine are on the left. The handgun was later returned to the victim.

    RELATED: Find details on police and crime trends in your area.

    The game was called "point 'em out, knock 'em out," and it was as random as it was brutal.

    The object: Target an innocent victim for no other reason than they are there, then sucker punch him or her.

    But on this day in Lansing, there would be no punch. The teen-age attacker had a stun gun. He did not know his would-be victim was carrying a legally concealed pistol.
    The teen lost the game.

    Last month, more than 400,000 adults could lawfully carry hidden handguns in Michigan. That’s one in 17 men and women 21 or older, more than since records have been kept.

    An MLive Media Group investigation found that crime numbers continue to drop across Michigan, even as police ranks decline. Some see the seemingly contradictory trends as proof the proliferation of concealed weapons is deterring lawbreakers.

    Marvell Weaver faces up to two years behind bars after attacking a random victim with a stun gun.

    Evidence is largely anecdotal – such as the Lansing case. The victim chose not to be interviewed until the case is resolved. He also fears a possible break-in from those who know he has a gun.

    But 70 pages of police records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act shed light into the reasons some people carry, and what can happen.

    ‘I wasn’t sure if it was a knife’

    The 17-year-old in gym shorts approached his target. The 28-year-old Lansing man was waiting for his daughter at her school-bus stop at REO Road and Ballard Street.

    It was May 29, and a nice day. Temperatures would reach 79 degrees. It was partly cloudy, fairly gusty.

    The teen had two friends nearby - dropped off by a third friend in a van after they scouted their target. They knew what Marvell Weaver was going to do. They had discussed it.

    Weaver approached his victim from behind, a black KL-800 Type Stun Gun in his pocket. It is capable of generating 1.8 million volts.


    An MLive analysis of dwindling manpower at police agencies statewide and corresponding crime trends.

    SUNDAY: Police ranks have dropped 14 percent since 2004. Why is crime down?
    Use this search tool to see police manpower and crime trends in your community and hundreds of others.
    How the analysis was done.
    Unleaded gas? Aging Boomers? Theories on why crime is dropping.

    Ann Arbor: Police decrease in most agencies; crime follows suit.
    Flint: Police force cut nearly in half; violent crimes doubles
    Flint: Suburban crime up; cops down.
    Bay City: Police ranks drop 26 percent, but crime down as well.
    Kalamazoo: Violent and property crimes plummet countywide.
    Saginaw: Laid off “officer of the year” hopes to return; crime continues to drop.
    Muskegon: Crime drops despite fewer cops in the county, Muskegon Heights.
    Muskegon: Cops cover multiple jobs in wake of budget-cutting.

    MONDAY: "Point ‘em out, knock ‘em out." Brutal game meets concealed gun.

    Grand Rapids: Area crime drops, but does it mean fewer officers are needed?
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    He passed him and turned back, pressed the stun gun into the victim’s side. Again and again, and … nothing. It had fired earlier when testing it, he would later tell police.
    “The button was like stuck down … or something. I don’t know what caused it not to work,” according to a transcript of Weaver’s statement.

    ‘Please don’t kill me’

    The intended victim moved quickly, pulling his stainless steel .40-caliber Smith and Wesson. It had a full 10-round magazine, and was worth about $900 police estimated.

    He shot Weaver in his buttocks as the teen turned to flee.
    “It happened so fast I wasn’t sure. I just know something was shoved into my side. I wasn’t sure if it was a knife, if it was anything,” he told police.

    Weaver ran, sat down across the street, his leg going numb, bleeding. Pleading.

    “‘I’m sorry, please don’t kill me, I don’t know why I did that, I’m high you know, I just wanna go home,’” the teen told the man who had just shot him.

    The man called 911. He told the dispatcher the teen was "currently wounded" and that he was a concealed pistol holder.

    "Did you shoot him?" the dispatcher asks, sounding incredulous.

    This is a recording of the 911 call. The audio breaks off as the man deals with events, but his father also calls police.

    911 call

    A witness told police the man stayed by the teen and appeared supportive and non-threatening.

    The teen was hospitalized with a non-life threatening injury. At first, Weaver said he merely removed the stun gun from his pocket to look at it and the man shot him.

    He later confessed to the attack, records show.

    Police asked for an attempted robbery warrant. The prosecutor authorized a lesser charge, illegal possession of a stun gun, a maximum two-year felony. A plea-bargain conference was scheduled for last Wednesday, but postponed until Sept. 4. The teen is free on bond.

    This police evidence photo shows the KL-800 Type Stun Gun found in the grass where Marvell Weaver allegedly attacked a man, not knowing the man had a concealed weapons permit.

    ‘I don’t blame you’ Ingham County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Lisa McCormick said there was no evidence to prove Weaver intended to rob the victim. She also said an aggravated assault charge would not stick because it requires the victim to be seriously injured.

    The felony stun-gun charge is more serious than simple assault, a 90-day misdemeanor, McCormick added.

    On a potential plea deal for Weaver, she would only offer, “There’s been some discussion with the defense attorney, but nothing has been finalized.”

    Whatever the outcome, the teen has written a letter apologizing to his victim.

    “I don’t blame you for what you did. You were only trying to protect yourself. I only wish I could go back to change it to were (sic) I never did it.”

    “Im very sorry,” he closes at the letter’s end.

    The hand-scrawled note is written on one-page of lined binder paper. The printed apology is at least five times larger than the rest of the words.

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