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    Interesting post found on other message board

    http://www.ninehundred.com/CalNews/wwwb ... s/625.html


    According to, Patrick Osio, Editor of HispanicVista.com. a staunchly pro-illegal alien publication:
    August 9, 2004
    Extreme poverty and poverty down in Mexico – is there reason to brag?
    By Patrick Osio, Jr./ Big news –“ Mexico proudly announced amid pomp and congratulations from the World Bank along with self back patting that from 2000 through 2002 the number of Mexican citizens living in extreme poverty had decreased from 24.2 to 20.3 million citizens or down to 19 percent of the total population. Extreme poverty is defined as those who don’t even have or earn enough to feed themselves adequately. The second bit of good news is that those living in poverty, but not extreme, decreased from 69.6 to 51.7 million or 49 percent of the population. So that between the extremely poor and poor there are a total of 72 million Mexicans (68 percent of the population) living in such conditions. So that out of a population of 105 million only 33 million do not live in some form of poverty – and this is something to be brag about?

    But progress is progress and I shouldn’t knock it. But is it real progress and is it due to Mexico improving economic opportunities for the poor? Is it due to massive industrial and commercial infrastructure improvement projects? Is it due to large infusions of capital investment by both Mexicans and foreign investors? Well, no.

    Within the report, the national population council reported that at least 2.3 million from the extreme poverty sector migrated to the US and it has been their remittances that have elevated those from extreme poverty into the ‘just’ poverty sector. Further research indicates that once the immediate needs are met from remittances, then families begin to invest in ‘micro’ family businesses further elevating them into the upper crest of the less poor.

    So that the progress Mexico has made reducing extreme poverty and poverty has been on the back and risk of those who flee such conditions to improve their family’s lot; not due to domestic economic policies or programs initiated by Mexico’s leaders.

    President Fox who can be credited for acknowledging that in fact Mexicans leave Mexico in search of a better life due to their government’s failure, contrary to the decades of PRI governments, has now seemingly become reliant on the remittances sent by those “heroes� as he first described them when he took office on December 1, 2000, stating that the $14 plus-billion in remittances in 2003 proves that “Mexicans themselves have decided to invest in their own country.�

    What hogwash!�

    According to Professor George Borjas, our nation’s foremost economic expert, in his book, Heaven’s Door:

    The average Canadian legal immigrant has 13.8 years of schooling, and the average Mexican legal immigrant 7.6 years. The average Canadian legal immigrant earns 24 percent more than the average American, while the average Mexican legal immigrant earns 39 percent less. The average Mexican legal immigrant is 50% more likely than the average Canadian legal immigrant to end-up using some form of welfare, and the average Mexican legal immigrant has the highest school dropout rate in the nation.

    According to the DHS, during this decade 4,629,826 people became United States citizens. Of these new Americans, 890,953 were Mexicans, (19.2%) while 84,675(1.8%) were Canadians. Here’s prima-facie evidence of the wretched intellectual cunning that illustrates America's no-goal immigration program. . We urgently need to revamp our legal immigrant selection procedures to attract those with the greatest potential to benefit their new country.

    According to the July 16 edition of the Washington Times:

    "Republican congressional members' constituents care more about immigration and border security than any other issue, according to a new congressional insiders poll.

    Seventeen of the 37 Republican House and Senate members who responded to the National Journal's survey identified immigration as the issue "most on the minds of your constituents these days." That easily topped the next closest issue, the economy, which gained 10 votes, followed by gasoline prices with four votes and terrorism with three votes.

    One Republican called immigration the "highest-octane issue in America," while another said, "It is here that the mismatch between the federal government's inaction and the realities at home is the greatest."

    About the “blessings� of illegal immigration, here’s what WorldNetDaily.com had to say on July 17, 2005:

    “The impact of uncontrolled immigration is coming home for residents of many Long Island, New York, communities as landlords turn single-family homes into filthy, overcrowded tenements holding as many as 64 renters – causing health and fire dangers and transforming neighborhoods.

    Illegal rooming houses, serving both documented and undocumented immigrants, are increasingly appearing across Long Island, as landlords fill a niche created by the demand for and availability of cheap foreign labor.

    "It's definitely spreading," Brookhaven Councilman James Tullo, who heads a task force investigating 300 illegal rentals in his town, told Newsday. "It's popping up in areas where you wouldn't expect them to be."

    While the closure of a home housing 64 men in Farmingville last month represents the most extreme case, officials in other communities cite their own examples:
    • 12 men living in a basement flooded with sewage;
    • Sheds rented without heat or plumbing;
    • Sleeping cubbyholes accessible only by passing through a hole in the wall;
    • A five-bedroom home converted to nine with spliced, makeshift wiring providing electricity to 30 dwellers;
    • A home with as many as 25 cars parked on the lawn, with residents sleeping in vehicles, urinating in the bushes and the septic tank overflowing into the street;
    • Garbage bags sitting in yards for days;
    • Vans from the local country club and other labor contractors honking their horns at 5:00 a.m. and picking up their employees;
    • Loud parties running late into Saturday night with crowds of men. “

    We should keep in mind that President Bush’s baloney about “willing� workers is nothing but wampum. A “willing worker� is generally a desperately poor unskilled individual from the third-world seeking almost any kind of work. A “willing employer� is generally a mercenary and conniving firm or individual offering employment to willing workers at non-living wages and terrible working conditions. This is a marriage made in hell, on the backs of innocent American workers and taxpayers.

    Illegal aliens have criminally breached our frontiers in haughty violation of our laws, and are taking abysmally low-waged jobs, linked to shameful working conditions, offered by grubby employers; - thus eliminating tens of thousands of low-skilled Americans from such activities.

    We should never forget that “cheap illegal alien labor� is nothing but subsidized labor; mandated by the Government of the United States. It's a myth, partially born-out of the necessity to euphemize illegal immigration, that Americans won't do hard labor. The truth is that Americans won't live two and three families in a garage, (while goats and chickens roam the streets) or 20 in a trailer, and suffer similar indignities just to sell their first-world labors at third-world levels. When will illegal alien cheerleaders like Senator Boxer & Rep. Pelosi come to realize that Americans can’t support their families on the wages paid to illegal aliens?

    No technologically advanced industrial nation like the U.S. that has 27 million illiterate adults and another 20-40 million adults who are marginally literate need have any fear about a shortage of unskilled workers.

    Because lose-lipped mystics like Contreras seem to want to flood this country with millions of illegal aliens, without much concern for the well-being of Americans already here, they are deliberately ignoring the reality that the lynch-pin of U.S. work force efficiency is an educated and skilled workforce. Increases in productivity allow American companies to do more work with fewer employees, but pay more without spurring inflation. The economy benefits in the long run from labor shortages (or expenses) that encourage increased productivity and technological innovation, not from legions of educationally and technically deficient workers, - who are twice as likely as native-borns to go on welfare. The surging American economy is fueled by investments in computers, information technology, telecommunications, e-commerce, bioscience, robotics, mechanized factories, and other technologies that require a labor force comprised of highly educated people with marketable skills. In other words, bluntly speaking, we need less apricot pickers, gardeners, busboys, and more scientists and similarly skilled individuals. Same for lose-lipped mystics who haven’t much of a clue.

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    We should never forget that “cheap illegal alien labor� is nothing but subsidized labor; mandated by the Government of the United States. It's a myth, partially born-out of the necessity to euphemize illegal immigration, that Americans won't do hard labor. The truth is that Americans won't live two and three families in a garage, (while goats and chickens roam the streets) or 20 in a trailer, and suffer similar indignities just to sell their first-world labors at third-world levels. When will illegal alien cheerleaders like Senator Boxer & Rep. Pelosi come to realize that Americans can’t support their families on the wages paid to illegal aliens?
    That paragraph is an EXCELLENT assessment of the problem. If our government would just take that one paragraph, memorize it and let IT GOVERN every decision they make about immigration, the problem could be solved. Americans SHOULD NOT have to live like that. Even more importantly, Americans need to realize that their GOVERNMENT has sold them out and FORCED them to live like third-world citizens.
    "POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY." Sir John Dalberg-Acton

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    That Hispanic Vista crowd, led by racist Patrick Osio, is just another racist, open-borders, priority-to-latinos-especially-Mexicans crowd. But the guy who takes the top prize for blatant racism is Raoul Contreras... I have had enough email exchanges with both of them.... they are unapologetic about their racism and anti-white stance because, I believe, they are profiting from the current illegal situation....

    to try to argue with this crowd, especialy the above named individuals, is futile....
    conservative is but a liberal after a dose of reality...

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