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March 20, 2009 - 12:37 ET

Don't miss Glenn's exclusive interview with former Border Agents Compean and Ramos tonight at 5pm ET on the Fox News Channel.
STU: I hate to interrupt you here. I've got a phone call from John you need to take.

GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead.
CALLER: Hello?
GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead. John?
CALLER: Yes.
GLENN: Yes, go ahead.
CALLER: How are you doing, Glenn?
GLENN: I'm doing fine. Who is this?
CALLER: It's John.
GLENN: Okay. Is there more to this story, John?

CALLER: Well, I was just calling because I listen to your show all the time and I'm just happy to finally be on it after all this time. I didn't think I'd get on.

STU: Are you sure John's his real name, Glenn?
GLENN: I have no idea who this is.

STU: Why don't you tell us who this is.
GLENN: It's Nacio, Glenn. Ignacio Ramos.
GLENN: Shut the hell up. How are you, my friend?
RAMOS: I'm doing good. I'm really good.
GLENN: Is this the first time that you've spoken in public?
RAMOS: Since my release?
GLENN: Yeah.
RAMOS: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I can't tell you. We were talking about you earlier this morning trying to figure out, you know, what you can and can't say. First question I've got for you is, how are you dealing with being out of solitary confinement?

RAMOS: Well, I'm doing good. Anything is a thousand times better than what it was. It will be good to finally get out of the house today.

GLENN: Today is the day, today is the day that you can actually walk out?

RAMOS: Yes. As a matter of fact, a little while ago they came and took off my monitor. So, you know, we're looking forward to finally leaving the house and we're going to meet a bunch of friends in a few hours for lunch.

GLENN: Is it all over?
RAMOS: Is what all over?
GLENN: Is your nightmare over? Is it done?
RAMOS: Well, I guess you could say the

GLENN: Do they have anything do they have anything else that they are holding over you, or are you a free man? Is there any condition on anything or are you now truly free to be your own person again?

RAMOS: Well, I'm still under supervised release for the next three years and I'll be meeting with my probation officer I believe on Monday. So, you know, I'll see what parameters they're going to set with me as far as that goes but

GLENN: Now, you have a parole officer because they are afraid that Ignacio Ramos might go out and, what was the quote, shoot up some Mexicans?

RAMOS: I believe that's what I believe that's what they used, yes.

GLENN: Yes, yes, yes. I remember seeing that and thinking that he hates Hispanics. Wow. Isn't he Hispanic? That's weird.

RAMOS: Yeah, go figure.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, you're going to be on TV tonight. Now, you two can't really talk to each other, though. That is one of the conditions.

RAMOS: Right.
GLENN: Is that right?
RAMOS: Right. And we don't
GLENN: Are they worried you are going to what did you say?
RAMOS: I said we don't give anybody excuse
GLENN: Right. So I have to separate you two. I can't talk to both of you at the same time.
RAMOS: Well

GLENN: Or you guys just can't address each other. Are they afraid you are going to start a militia group or

RAMOS: I don't know. I think we do it just to err on the side of caution, that way they can't just ever say we communicate with each other.

GLENN: Violated.
RAMOS: Right.
GLENN: Unbelievable. That way it keeps everybody happy.
STU: Glenn, we're missing one important question here.
GLENN: Yes.

STU: Which is Ignacio, you've just come out of this whole ordeal, you've been away for so long. You have your monitor off. You are going out to lunch. Where does a guy like you go to his first lunch?

RAMOS: I believe we're going to a well, we've had a lot of bring home lunches, but

GLENN: What was your first meal?
RAMOS: Oh, once we got out?
GLENN: Yeah.
RAMOS: We couldn't stop anywhere, so at the airport I had Wendy's.

GLENN: When you went into prison, did you have this did they have the Frostys with all the mix in like Oreos and stuff?

RAMOS: Unfortunately not.
GLENN: Now they do. It's pretty sweet.
RAMOS: They cut that off when you go in.

GLENN: Unbelievable. All right. Well, we'll talk to you you know what, hold on just a second. I'm sorry. This came as a surprise so I didn't know you were calling in. John, thanks for calling in. Can you hang on just a second?

RAMOS: Absolutely.

GLENN: Okay. Unbelievable, Nacio Ramos, one of the border agents that was obviously in prison and in solitary confinement. Hang on. Nacio, how long were you in solitary? What was the total number of days?

RAMOS: Two years in a month.
GLENN: Unbelievable.
RAMOS: I forgot to I lost track of the actual count of days. I guess it's over 700.
GLENN: Hang on just a second. I want to talk some more to you about
RAMOS: Sure.
GLENN: About that, being in jail and being a political prisoner.
RAMOS: Sure.
GLENN: Do that here in just a second.

(Break)

GLENN: Oh, yeah, dog. Here's our number, 888 727 BECK. So I've only got about a minute and a half left here with Nacio Ramos but we're going to talk a little bit more tonight. Nacio in a minute and a half. What was it like when you heard you were going to be released? What went through your mind when you heard that the president signed your release order?

RAMOS: Well, I wasn't sure I heard it at first because I mean, I have the radio on I had the radio on every day and I wasn't sure exactly what I heard. So I had to wait until it was repeated on the radio and once they repeated it and I actually heard our names that we actually received the commutation, I just broke down. And I broke down and cried and I got down on my knees and I prayed and I thanked God.

GLENN: Did you is it true that you heard it on our show?

RAMOS: It came on right before your show.

GLENN: Unbelievable. This is great stuff, great stuff. I can't tell you how excited we are, how many people in the audience have been praying for you, had been pulling for you, had been campaigning for you and we'll see you tonight.

RAMOS: Well, I look forward to it. And I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart because you've done so much for us and so have your listeners and really, we couldn't have done this without the support, prayers and, you know, of course with your savior Jesus Christ because

GLENN: We'll see you tonight, my friend. Tonight, 5:00.

(Break)

GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. I mean, now I know why we had to -- I was told, hang on just a second because we just had Nacho Ramos on and now I know why when I heard in my headphones, no, no, no, minute and a half he's got to be gone. Because they can't appear together. Jose Compean is with us now. Jose?

COMPEAN: Yes, good morning, Glenn.
GLENN: How are you, my friend?
COMPEAN: Wonderful.
GLENN: I can't -- first of all, congratulations.
COMPEAN: Thank you.
GLENN: I am so glad that -- is your ankle bracelet off yet?
COMPEAN: About five, ten minutes ago.
GLENN: How does it feel?
COMPEAN: Oh, it was a little strange.
GLENN: In what way?

COMPEAN: I don't have that on my leg anymore. I don't have that -- I guess I'm actually able to walk out of the house and take my kids to school today. So --

GLENN: Have you walked out of the house yet?

COMPEAN: I'm allowed to go in my front yard and my backyard but that's about it. I haven't done it yet.

GLENN: Are you on a portable?
COMPEAN: Yes.
GLENN: Come on, go walk, just walk across the street.
COMPEAN: All right. Hang on a second.

GLENN: Just walk across the street just because you can. How does it -- how does it feel to be a free man?

COMPEAN: A little strange. After dealing with this for a couple of years knowing it's finally, we're finally done.

GLENN: Listen to the birds. I can hear the birds.

COMPEAN: Yeah. It's a beautiful sunny day.

GLENN: Did you think that you would be able to do this? Was there a time when you thought there's no way I can do this?

COMPEAN: There was, but I had all of the support from people all over the country, your radio listeners, your people who watch your TV show, yourself. I mean, just all the support really helped.

GLENN: Are you off your own property yet?

COMPEAN: Yes, I am. I'm in the middle of the street right now (laughing).

GLENN: Look out because that -- I mean, are you in a crosswalk? Because that's jaywalking.

COMPEAN: Oh, that's right.

GLENN: Well, we're going to have you on, we're going to have you both on tonight and talk about the experience of what it was like in the buildup. Did you -- when they said guilty, what is that like to be -- to know what you were facing and when they said guilty, what does that feel like?

COMPEAN: Almost like a dream, really. I mean, after everything that was said during the trial, a lot of people that read the transcripts and there's still a lot of stuff that, as far as I know, people don't really know. There's other things that went on that were not allowed.

GLENN: Can you talk about any of those yet? Are you allowed to talk?

COMPEAN: I don't think we are because like I said, I don't know if the stuff has been released, I guess.

GLENN: Right.

COMPEAN: A lot of the stuff that has been said in the judge's chambers, a lot has been not been released. A lot of the stuff that went on in there is just -- I mean, it's absolutely disgusting really the stuff that we heard that we were told that the jury was not allowed to hear. I mean, it's just --

GLENN: I know that I am -- I know that our research staff at Fox is trying to find out what can and can't be shared tonight and we hope to share at least some of it tonight. But if not, we'll wait until it can be shared. I find it amazing that you have had a gag order where you have not been able to speak out. We have not been able to talk or even see your image until about five minutes ago when you got your ankle bracelet off. We have not been able to talk or see your image. It will be the first time since you guys were released that you'll be able to actually speak out at 5:00 today on my program on the Fox News Channel. And like I said, we don't know yet what they can say but I would imagine just being able to speak and to be able to drive to a TV set is going to be a joy unlike you probably haven't felt for a very long time.

COMPEAN: Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

GLENN: We'll talk to you tonight. And God bless you and the family. How is the family?

COMPEAN: They are doing great. Kids are up and ready to go to school but for some reason they don't want to go this morning.

GLENN: Take them to the park.
COMPEAN: Yeah, I think we are.
GLENN: Yeah, take them to the park.
COMPEAN: I just won't tell Patty about it.
GLENN: Don't mess with Patty.
COMPEAN: Yeah.

GLENN: Don't mess with Patty. All right, we'll talk to you tonight, my friend. Thank you so much.

COMPEAN: All right. Thank you for having me.
GLENN: You bet. Bye-bye.
COMPEAN: Bye-bye.

GLENN: Jose Compean, Nacho Ramos, tonight.

STU: Glenn, the first words, the first time he stepped off of his property right here on this program, the first word from both of those guys in public right here on this program. That's kind of cool. I feel like we should just go home. What else are we going to do today?

GLENN: You know what's really cool is if you feel like you're alone, you feel like you don't have a voice, you feel like you don't have any power, imagine what it felt like to have the president of the United States coming after you. Imagine what it felt like to know that you were caught up in some sort of international incident between Mexico and America and you were the pawn. You were the sacrificial lamb, and you were there in solitary confinement, every hour of every day for over two years. These guys both listen to the radio program every day and they would listen. And I've often thought how many times they have thought, "Hey, man, you know, oh, it's great people are still talking about us," but how many times did they turn on the radio and we didn't mention them, that they went, "Oh, please." If you feel like you don't have a voice, imagine how they felt and yet not by people picking up guns. Not by people doing anything. And with the media against them, the media against the people who were speaking out, with no one on their side except the average person. They both just got their ankle bracelet off and Jose Compean, you heard it, walked off his property for the first time. He's his own man again, and he's in control of his own life.