Thread: Joel Osteen Praises Obama as a Christian

Joel Osteen Praises Obama as a Christian

Tim Brown 17 hours ago

There are still self-professed "Christians" who continue to promote the heresies and unbiblical teachings of Joel Osteen and his wife Victoria. Previously, we pointed out how Victoria Osteen said that our worship of God should be done for ourselves. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Osteen said that Barack Obama is a Christian.

Osteen claims that he has been to prayer breakfasts and other event with Barack Obama and heard him express his faith, redmeption and salvation.
"I just believe in my heart that he's a Christian," Osteen said. "He says he is."

"Again, I wouldn't try and push people away," Osteen continued. "That's just the opposite of what we're supposed to do."




Now, let's just rehearse what Obama says his "Christian" faith is composed of, shall we?

In a 2004 interview with Cathleen Falsani, Obama said that he "draw(s) from (his) Christian faith, but then went on to talk about growing up with Eastern influences in Hawaii, Muslim influences in Indonesia, his father being an agnostic while his grandfather was a Muslim, and finishing off claiming that he was mostly influenced by Judaism. However, he claims to be "rooted in the Christian tradition. Let's see how he stacks up to that "Christian tradition." Obama told Falsani the following:

• I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.
• Of responding to an unbiblical "altar call" in Jeremiah Wright's church, Obama said, "…it was a powerful moment. Because, it was powerful for me because it not only confirmed my faith, it not only gave shape to my faith, but I think, also, allowed me to connect the work I had been pursuing with my faith.
• I'm a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at its best comes with a big dose of doubt. I'm suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding.
• Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.
• (Jesus) a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.
• I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can't imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That's just not part of my religious makeup.
• (Sin is) being out of alignment with my values.
• (If you have sin in your life) if I'm true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I'm not true to it, it's its own punishment.
• (I find spiritual inspiration in) the black church experience. A good choir and a good sermon in the black church, it's pretty hard not to be move and be transported. I can be transported by watching a good performance of Hamlet, or reading Toni Morrison's Song of Solomon, or listening to Miles Davis.
• (Though Obama doesn't read the Bible like he should (see below)) when I read Gandhi or I read King or I read certain passages of Abraham Lincoln and I think about those times where people's values are tested, I think those inspire me.
• When I feel most centered, most aligned spiritually is when) I'm being true to myself. And that can happen in me making a speech or it can happen in me playing with my kids, or it can happen in a small interaction with a security guard in a building when I'm recognizing them and exchanging a good word.
• (In referencing his "altar call" experience) It wasn't an epiphany. It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them. For me it was probably because there is a certain self-consciousness that I possess as somebody with probably too much book learning, and also a very polyglot background.

When asked about prayer and Bible reading, Obama said, "I used to all the time, in a fairly disciplined way. But during the course of this campaign, I don't. And I probably need to and would like to, but that's where that internal monologue, or dialogue I think supplants my opportunity to read and reflect in a structured way these days.

Friends, nothing in Obama's statements are Christian in any sense of the word. They are not biblical concepts of the historic Christian faith at all. Yet, Osteen, who doesn't promote biblical concepts of the historical Christian faith either supports Obama as a Christian.

As for his job, well we've documented how poorly he is doing it, yet, he is doing exactly what he aims to do and that is to destroy America.

However, recall this comes years after Osteen and his wife were interviewed by Larry King and they regurgitated the same nonsense that Osteen said in his interview with Blitzer.

"I think he's doing a great job," Osteen said. "I'm impressed of his skill, calmness, his just strength under pressure. I mean these are tough times for him, he got a lot put on his plate. But I've been impressed."

Wow! It doesn't take a lot to impress Joel Osteen, does it? It takes even less to impress his wife who was asked about Michelle Obama. "I've been real impressed," she said. "I've been impressed about the First Lady, she stepped up and she's done a remarkable job, and under the situation, they have done great."




King then went on to point out that 12 percent of Americans (I find that utterly ridiculous) believe that Obama is a Muslim and that 35 percent say they don't know what religion he is (which I think might be factual). He then asked Osteen if he thought that mattered.

"Well, it matters to me," Mr. Osteen said. "It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it's important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I'm making my personal decisions."
His wife agreed.

However, Osteen went on to promote his new Hope for Today Bible, saying, "It's a living translation of the Bible, which is an easy version to read. And then it's got our notes besides certain passages. And it's just to help people maybe to understand the Bible a little bit easier."

And just what will it help people understand easier? Apparently it won't help in the area of marriage.

When asked if he thought more states would allow the redefinition of marriage to include sodomites, Osteen said, "You know, I don't know where it's all going ... I'd love to see it stay between a male and a female, not knocking anybody else."

Knocking anybody else? Why not? Jesus was clear about what marriage is and what it is not in Matthew 5 and Matthew 19. God was clear about it in Genesis 3. Why can't Joel Osteen be clear? It's because he's a false teacher.
To be fair, at least his wife said, "I just think marriage should be sanctified by the church. It should be between a man and a woman."

While Osteen said the "God's best is between a male and female," it seems that for both Osteens is all about "what they think" rather than what God says. That is the crux of the issue.

My friends, Joel Osteen is in the position he is in because the professed Church has not called people like him out and dealt with him biblically. It's time the people of God start dealing with false teachers in a biblical manner.

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SAY WHAT!!! I was never into any of these kind of so called "Christian" TV personality's, and this explains it all in perfect dialogue for me.

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Originally Posted by kathyet2

There are still self-professed "Christians" who continue to promote the heresies and unbiblical teachings of Joel Osteen and his wife Victoria. Previously, we pointed out how Victoria Osteen said that our worship of God should be done for ourselves. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Osteen said that Barack Obama is a Christian.

Well yeah. 'Bama worships himself and loves throwing Americans under the bus. I guess that's all we can ask of a screwball. This guy cetainly does not love his neighbor, unless that neighbor happens to be a tech executive, or a race-baiting self-professed Hispanic spokeperson, or - and last but not least - one of his lobbyist golf buddies.
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