Thread: Iraq Bombs "clearly from Iran" (?)

Although he would not comment on whether the Iranian government was directly involved, Rumsfeld said, "it's notably unhelpful for the Iranians to be allowing weapons of those types to be crossing the border."

"What you do know of certain knowledge is the Iranians did not stop it from coming in," he said.

Well... if this isn't just the "pot calling the kettle black".

THE USA can't keep alien invaders, drugs, weapons or terrorists out of the USA OR IRAQ but it expects Iran to know keep everything IN.

Rumsfeld....your job is to keep everything OUT of the USA and Iraq while you're in charge....stop blaming other people for your failure to MANAGE A BORDER here and overseas.



See Rummy, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL if you knew something about DEFENSE. That's why a football team has DEFENSIVE LINEMEN...to keep the other team OUT. If you don't have a DEFENSE LINE, then you need to get one. Whining to the other team that they broke through your line because you didn't have any DEFENSE...won't get much sympathy around here....all you're doing over there is getting our boys and girls murdered.

I thought I saw you in a football uniform Rummy....what happened?

Maybe you need some of that new Merck "fake folic acid". Give 'em a call, they'll probably send you a "complimentary bottle". It's supposed to be "helpful" with foggy minds!!

DEFENSE = KEEP ENEMIES OUT.

Duuuuuh!!

I think a couple of MOAB's dropped on Iranian military posts near the border might get their attention.

I think a couple of Divisions on our Southern Border might get everybody's attention (and a couple on the Northern Border while we're at it!).

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

I think a couple of MOAB's dropped on Iranian military posts near the border might get their attention.

I think a couple of Divisions on our Southern Border might get everybody's attention (and a couple on the Northern Border while we're at it!).

I agree totally on the MOABs, while were at it we should take out the Presidential Palace in Teheran and the nuclear facilities.

As for the troops, we have none. Dont forget, it would take a substantial number of troops to patrol both borders and mantain a good sized reserve for any problems that could occur in the world plus the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. The US military was downsized to much following the end of the Cold War.

Chris, you're right. We don't have enought BECAUSE THEY'RE IN KOREA, AND GERMANY, AND IRAQ!

We need to bring some home and deploy them here, where it really matters. Geopolitical posturing is fine, but it is beyond stupid to guard your neighbor's house and leave your own open for anyone to plunder. That is exactly what is taking place now.

If Mr. Bush wanted the Divisions on the Border, believe me, they would be found. Heck, hire a few thousand retired deputies and border patrol agents and give them binoculars. They could at least show a presence on the border and make a difference, but our government is willfully not doing it.

I foresee the day when treason, sedition and other charges are brought down on some very prominent heads in this country.

We need to add troops to secure all our borders. It will be the BEST MONEY America ever spent. To put it in perspective, in ONE MONTH in North Carolina, just one of 50 states, we added 3,400 net new jobs in Government...in just one month... and we are one of the poorer state's revenue wise. So if 50 states added an average of 3,400 net new jobs ONCE to protect our nation, instead of whatever they are adding new jobs to do, (most of which if we saw it we'd go "eek" "are you mad" "we don't need THAT"), then we could build a national defense corps of 170,000 guards, patrol agents, airmen, helicopter pilots, trackers, alien hunters, alien deporters, port inspectors, construction corps to build and maintain fences, gatekeepers to let the wildlife through during migration, etc., etc., etc. and keep this country free of this riff raff and...guess what....we'd never even feel the cost, because the cost would be more than offset by 100 times by getting rid of the cost of illegal immigration.

WE see unemployed Americans go to work; we'd see iincome and salaries rise; we'd see benefits increase; we'd see welfare and unemployment and poverty DECREASE; we wouldn't need as many free school lunches; we wouldn't need subsidized housing; we wouldn't need food stamps; WIC or most of what is spent now on Medicaid. We'd still need some of these for disadvantaged people with problems, but 80% of these costs would disappear with everyone working; everyone feeling safe; everyone happy in their schools; teachers could get raises; kids would do better; families would be happier; all because we made an investment to protect our Nation and the American People.

The states should operate the defense corps through a Governor's Council with their respective State Director of their portion of the National Defense Corps. We could keep the feds aware on a NEED TO KNOW BASIS. The US Government has proven that it can not be trusted with this endeavor. States CAN act collectively or individually to enforce federal law and protect their state from invasion through the National Guard. They can form their own system supervised by the Governor's all 50 and this is legal already. After all, this is a government of the United States of America.

The role of the Corps is to be DEFENSIVE LINEMEN...NO ONE GETS THROUGH THE LINE--NO ONE GETS ACROSS THE BORDER.

If they don't get in to begin with, then you don't need "catch and release" programs; you don't need "immigration lawyers"; you don't need "illegal alien advocacy groups" (just think about all that 501 C 3 money that can now be diverted BACK to the US Treasury where it belongs...hundreds of millions of dollars a year...just in that one area); you don't need to spend alot of money prosecuting or investigating illegal employers--no illegal employees, no illegal employers; hospitals can afford to reopen; schools will now have plenty of room; students will now have the futures they were guaranteed; neighborhoods will start to rejuvenate; and Americans can divert their attention from illegal immigration back to work, business, innovations, daily life in America and their pursuit of happiness...also guaranteed them by the US Constitution.

Oh....and did I fail to mention....American Workers will get their $200 Billion a year back in deflated wages and salaries.

Does that sound good?

When do we start?

Right on!

Crying about weapons and guerillas coming in from Iran without doing anything to stop it is typical government crap.

No border security = No national security



Iraq apparently was pretty good at border security before we came.

They probably didn't even need to patrol the border.

Invaders feared what would happen to them.

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While writing this post, I was reminded that invaders need to be scared of what will happen to them.

Of course, this would perhaps interfere with MMP and Alipacs peaceful goals, but allow me to conjecture:

You could release videos, fake of course, of some scary looking ski- masked individuals telling invaders what various unpleasantries await them.

Officials and media would no doubt say that they are fakes (and charge you with "hate thought"), but it doesn't matter, they will be seen and believed.



I have another great video idea, but i'll save it for later.



-n

AZJouster--yes, we need to be creative!!

Keep those "border" thoughts comin'!!

Judy, I only disagree with you on one point. North Carolina is not one of the poorer states. We are in the top ten with a $17 Billion annual budget as of this year. They are soaking us but good and a lot of it is going to provide services for our 300,000 illegal aliens.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... eneral.htm

Hey, check this out. This is saying they're planning a "terror" attack to give reason to go into Iran and establish Martial Law??????

Scarecrow...I didn't know NC was just a big spender. WOW...I guess we're in the top ten because we're over $1.3 Billion in shortfalls....spending more than our poor state can afford.

Well at least now we know why Fema is down in SC just like they were in NY just before 9/11. This is some freaky stuff. Keep the people in fear and they will follow like good sheeple and forget all about that illegal immigration stuff.