Thread: Trump Academy Does Have An A Rating - Fox Does NOT Correct Their Lie

Fox never corrected their stated error on the actual rating by BBB on Trump Univ.....it is an A. Fox is wrong. Trump should have acknowledged in his closing statement that he did show proof he was correct.

Revealed: Here’s What Trump Handed Fox News Debate Hosts During Commercial Break

Trump did not let the issue rest...

Jack Davis March 4, 2016

During Thursday night’s Republican presidential debate, Donald Trump was put on the spot about Trump University, which is the subject of a class action lawsuit.

“We have a 98 percent approval rating, we have an A from the Better Business Bureau (BBB) and people like it,” Trump said at the GOP primary debate Thursday.

Rival Marco Rubio said Trump’s claim was “false. That’s a D minus. Go on my website.”

Fox News host Megyn Kelly intervened in the discussion and sided with Rubio.

“With respect, we went back and looked at this,” Kelly said. “The rating from the Better Business Bureau was a D minus. That’s the last publicly available rating in 2010, and it was a result of the number of complaints they had received.”

“The only reason it was a D was because we didn’t care, we didn’t give them the information,” he said.

Kelly said there was no proof of Trump’s claim that the BBB gave the project an A.

“I can give it to you,” he said. “I will give it to you. I will give it to you tomorrow. … It was elevated to an A.”

Trump urged patience on the issue.

“Let’s see what happens in court. This is a civil case, very easy to have settled, could settle it now, very easy to have settled. … Let’s see what happens at the end of a couple years when this case is over,” Trump said.

“It’s been going for five years,” Kelly shot back.

“Yeah, it’s been going for a long time,” Trump responded.

Trump did not let the issue rest there. During a commercial break, Trump handed debate moderator Bret Baier a fax he received at the Detroit venue where the debate was held. Apparently, the fax contained updated BBB information, Trump posted a copy of the fax on Facebook, showing an ‘A’ grade from the BBB.

Trump handed a fax to the @FoxNews anchors during the #GOPDebate just a bit ago pic.twitter.com/EvVbvFZAgK
— Independent Journal (@INJO) March 4, 2016

The updated information was not made public during the show. Trump handed it to the Fox hosts just before the candidates’ closing statements.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/rev...ent=2016-03-05

Better Business Beureau denies debate night "fax" to Trump

The Better Business Bureau (BBB) is disputing a report that it had provided Donald Trump's campaign with a "fax" of Trump University ratings during a commercial break for the Fox News Republican debate on Thursday.

The Independent Journal Review posted a video to Twitter showing Trump handing a piece of paper to debate moderators during the break:Trump can be heard on the recording saying, "Better Business Bureau just sent it...this just came in."

But the BBB said they were not the source of the fax.

On Friday, the organization said this: "A video released by Independent Journal implies that BBB sent a fax in the middle of last night's Republican debate, which we did not. The BBB Business Review of Trump Entrepreneur Initiative (formerly Trump University) has shown 'No Rating' continually since September 2015. The photo tweeted out after the debate last night did not show the current BBB Business Review or the current rating."

The statement comes amid an ongoing controversy over the now-defunct Trump University, which is currently embroiled in a civil lawsuit, and its previous BBB ratings.

On Thursday's debate stage, Trump said of his school, "We have a 98 percent approval rating, we have an 'A' from the Better Business Bureau, and people like it."
Debate moderator and Fox News host Megyn Kelly responded that "the rating from the BBB was a D-minus, and it was a result of a number of complaints they received."
Trump later claimed the rating was elevated to an "A."

According to the BBB statement, "Over the years, the company's BBB rating has fluctuated between an A+ and a D-. At this time, the status is 'No Rating' because the company is believed to be out of business."
The BBB's refuting claim is just one of the problems to crop up out of Trump's performance on the debate stage Thursday.

A CNN report filed Saturday charged Trump with breaking Fox News' debate rules, citing sources from rival campaigns and the cable network.

According to CNN, Trump consulted with campaign manager Corey Lewandowski during the first commercial break Thursday. That contact would have violated Fox News' stated debate rules, which prohibit any contact between the candidate and their campaign.

Trump's campaign has not responded to a request for comment about the CNN report.

© 2016 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/better-b...election-2016/

Interesting - but do not think it was stated he rec'd the fax at that moment from BBB - could have been faxed from his office copy. Commenters did not like the treatment he is receiving - Is Trump on trial?? Did Obama go thru this?? Is this a roast, a joke??. An absolute ambush.


Brad Bejot Have you ever seen videos being used in a debate??? They should have done this when Obama was running. Is Trump on Trial????? I feel like this is a roast... This is a joke... 10,532 · March 3 at 8:08pm 784 Replies ·
Sam Sheridan An absolute ambush. I am disgusted with Fox. Trump, I know you are doing something right when you have that many enemies with affiliated interest groups. 7,982 · March 3 at 8:08pm · Edited 283 Replies ·
Catherine Lewis LIKE .... IF YOU ARE VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT !!!! SHOW DONALD YOUR SUPPORT !! 3,547 · March 3 at 8:08pm 110 Replies ·
Diamond Monroe It is embarrassing how Gop is going against Trump and the voters. Americans have to vote even more for Trump now... Time to send message to Washington, we want Trump . Start the movement. 1,789 · March 3 at 8:09pm
David Stickney Watching the debate really makes me want to vote for Donald trump even more. But what I saw at the end with Marco Rubio not even shaking hands with Donald trump is not how Florida boys are supposed to behave and he should be ashamed of himself 2,005 · March 3 at 8:10pm 178 Replies ·
Tim Pulliam Trump may offend some but he is a straight shooter. Political correctness is ruining this country. We don't need puppy rooms and safe spaces, we need a leader who is strong and stands up for America. 4,271 · March 3 at 8:07pm

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Fact-checking Donald Trump's claims about Trump University

By Jon Greenberg on Sunday, February 28th, 2016 at 6:42 p.m.
Republican frontrunner Donald Trump’s challengers have called him many things; add to that list the charge from Florida Sen. Marco Rubio that Trump is a con man. Rubio's recent attacks have focused on allegations of false marketing by Trump University.
It wasn’t a real university -- and had to change its name to Trump Entrepreneur Institute because of that. It was largely a seminar program that promised to teach its students the real estate secrets that turned Trump into a billionaire. With some participants paying as much as $35,000, the project drew investigations and lawsuits in at least three states.
The university registered as a private company in New York in October 2004 and largely shut down by 2011. When NBC host Chuck Todd raised issues with the university, Trump defended the program, noting that nearly all the students thought it was "great."
"They signed these documents saying, they rated the course, 98 percent approval rating and high marks," Trump said on Meet the Press on Feb. 28, 2016. And he added, "We have an A from the Better Business Bureau.

We went to the Better Business Bureau website and saw that as of today, the Trump Entrepreneur Institute has no rating. The website explained, "This business has no rating because BBB has information indicating it is out of business."
Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks told us, "When the school was operational it was rated A."
We asked Hicks to document that rating and didn’t hear back.
Katherine Hutt, director of communications for the Council of Better Business Bureaus, said that as a matter of policy, they don’t provide any ratings from previous years.But the organization issued a statement that "Over the years, the company’s BBB rating has fluctuated between an A+ and a D-."
We don’t know when the bureau might have given Trump University a top grade, but based on the Internet Archive, the last time the Better Business Bureau gave the university any rating at all was 2010, when it give it a D-minus. That assessment showed up in plenty of news articles.
That year, the New York Daily News reported that "the Better Business Bureau in January slapped a D-minus rating on Trump U., a rating now under review after Trump U. objected."
CBS News said the same thing in an April 21, 2010, article.
And in May, 2011, the New York Times wrote "The Better Business Bureau gave the school a D-minus for 2010, its second-lowest grade, after receiving 23 complaints."
The Washington Post had the same information in May 2011 when it reported that the New York State Attorney General was investigating the Trump Entrepreneur Institute. The Attorney General’s Office did file charges but stumbled on the grounds that the statute of limitations had passed. The matter is under appeal.
Under the new name Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, ratings ranged from C to B between 2012 and 2014. We found no ratings at all for the past two years.
Our ruling
Trump said about his entrepreneur institute that "we have an ‘A’ from the Better Business Bureau." Literally speaking, that is inaccurate. The Better Business Bureau gives the program no rating today because it’s no longer a going concern.
Trump University had an A at some point. The Better Business Bureau doesn't release details of its past ratings, but it did say Trump's program had ratings that ranged from A+ to D-.
What we do know, from several published reports and archived Web pages, is that the university had a D in 2010 and under its new name, had ratings ranging from C to B, with no ratings after March 2014.
Trump’s claim is literally wrong and also ignores the university’s lower Better Business Bureau scores. We rate it False.
Update: This fact-check was updated on Feb. 29 to include information from the Internet Archive and on March 3 to add information about the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...out-trump-uni/

Trump Academy ?

The original name was TRUMP UNIVERSITY

@ Trump University lawsuit closer to trial

AND THEN IT Became

The Trump Entrepreneur Initiative

because the New York State Department of Education sent him a letter:

“Use of the word ‘university’ by your corporation is misleading and violates New York Education Law and the Rules of the Board of Regents.”

@ Trump University lawsuit closer to trial

Time will tell what the details are. Myself, I do not hold one or two bad business deals amongst THOUSANDS that are successful against him. Launching & adding your brands to as many items as he has can have some drawbacks, loss of control to other partners for one. Maybe it didn't turn out how he initially thought it would once it was handled by others. He has a vodka & a wine from a Virginia winery and he does drink alcohol. The wine is quite good and from a local east coast vineyard he bought.

What I am against is cruz being defeated by hillary which would be the scenario if cruz is the nominee. He does not stand a chance nationally, most staunch conservatives do not & the democratic party has more voters. Trump has truck loads of democrats ready to vote for him - cruz does not. His wife being a 5yr CFR member, authoring a report on the North American Community, an open border concept becoming a reality, (perfect fit a latino from Canada) along with his backing by big gas & oil are more inline with the corporate take over of the USA and all its consequences.

Off topic but to example, refer to the two links below and remember if you keep nit picking at the candidate that HAS the best chance of beating hillary, you will have her in the WH with her rapist husband and all her amnesties, refugees, muslims, self serving accumulation of wealth at our expense.

We would NOT be hearing ANY discussion of closing our borders if it were not for Mr Trump. No human being is perfect.

Moderators need to stop with the gotchas & causing bickering. What are the plans for Keystone XL pipeline from these candidates among many other topics they should be asking to better inform us?

Keystone will try again once O is out of office. There are pages & pages of eminent domain land ready to be taken from us for this Canadian project with pipes that could break at anytime. Trump is a businessman, cruz in an oil lover - I would like to know because I could just not vote AGAIN if they are for it. Certainly could not pull the lever for hillary.

http://www.alipac.us/f9/hypocrite-te...-op-ed-329759/

http://www.alipac.us/f9/open-letter-...vement-329750/

BBB Explains D-Minus Grade for Trump University

• By MEGHAN KENEALLY

Mar 8, 2016, 2:23 PM ET

Bebeto Matthews/AP Photo

WATCH Better Business Bureau Clarifies Trump University Rating

Donald Trump's now-defunct university received multiple complaints from students, resulting at one point in a "D-minus" grade from the Better Business Bureau, a business ratings agency, said today.

Trump University has been a pointed source of contention during the 2016 presidential race, and the nonprofit BBB is now clarifying its grading of the online education company after Donald Trump’s assertions that the program has an “A” rating from the BBB.

"During the period when Trump University appeared to be active in the marketplace, BBB received multiple customer complaints about this business,” the New York area BBB and its national headquarters said in a statement released today. "These complaints affected the Trump University BBB rating, which was as low as D- in 2010," the statement said.

"As the company appeared to be winding down, after 2013, no new complaints were reported. Complaints over three years old automatically rolled off of the Business Review, according to BBB policy. As a result, over time, Trump University’s BBB rating went to an A in July 2014 and then to an A+ in January 2015.”

The Controversy Surrounding Trump University

Donald Trump has been saying in his front-running GOP presidential campaign that Trump University, which was later renamed Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, has an "A" grade from the BBB.

"We have an "A" from the Better Business Bureau. People like it," Trump said during the Republican presidential debate last week.

But the BBB noted today that the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative "does not currently have an A rating."

"The BBB Business Review for this company has continually been 'No Rating' since September 2015.

Prior to that, it fluctuated between D- and A+," the statement said.

Trump’s education company, which effectively ceased operations sometime after 2010, is the subject of three active lawsuits, including one by the New York State Attorney General seeking $40 million in damages for people who were affected by the program.

New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman launched an investigation into the program in 2011, and filed the lawsuit against it and Trump in 2013, accusing the now-defunct school of "engaging in specific fraudulent, deceptive and illegal acts."

In court papers, Trump has called any claims of fraud patently false and unsubstantiated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bbb-e...ry?id=37491525

Trump University had an A rating when it was rated after they filled out their forms. You don't rate closed companies. Trump was telling the truth and the media was lying as was Rubio. BBB can be helpful but it can also be deceiving if you are comparing an apple to an orange, such as an active business many years ago versus a closed business now. It's stunning how truly ignorant of business and business matters so many politicians and corrupt media are. Shocking really given the power they over what people think and believe.

BBB Explains D-Minus Grade for Trump University

• By MEGHAN KENEALLY

Mar 8, 2016, 2:23 PM ET

Bebeto Matthews/AP Photo

WATCH Better Business Bureau Clarifies Trump University Rating

Donald Trump's now-defunct university received multiple complaints from students, resulting at one point in a "D-minus" grade from the Better Business Bureau, a business ratings agency, said today.

Trump University has been a pointed source of contention during the 2016 presidential race, and the nonprofit BBB is now clarifying its grading of the online education company after Donald Trump’s assertions that the program has an “A” rating from the BBB.

"During the period when Trump University appeared to be active in the marketplace, BBB received multiple customer complaints about this business,” the New York area BBB and its national headquarters said in a statement released today. "These complaints affected the Trump University BBB rating, which was as low as D- in 2010," the statement said.

"As the company appeared to be winding down, after 2013, no new complaints were reported. Complaints over three years old automatically rolled off of the Business Review, according to BBB policy. As a result, over time, Trump University’s BBB rating went to an A in July 2014 and then to an A+ in January 2015.”

The Controversy Surrounding Trump University

Donald Trump has been saying in his front-running GOP presidential campaign that Trump University, which was later renamed Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, has an "A" grade from the BBB.

"We have an "A" from the Better Business Bureau. People like it," Trump said during the Republican presidential debate last week.

But the BBB noted today that the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative "does not currently have an A rating."

"The BBB Business Review for this company has continually been 'No Rating' since September 2015.

Prior to that, it fluctuated between D- and A+," the statement said.

Trump’s education company, which effectively ceased operations sometime after 2010, is the subject of three active lawsuits, including one by the New York State Attorney General seeking $40 million in damages for people who were affected by the program.

New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman launched an investigation into the program in 2011, and filed the lawsuit against it and Trump in 2013, accusing the now-defunct school of "engaging in specific fraudulent, deceptive and illegal acts."

In court papers, Trump has called any claims of fraud patently false and unsubstantiated.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bbb-e...ry?id=37491525

That's because Trump didn't fill out the paperwork to dispute the complaints at BBB. BBB goes with the complaint unless you fill out paperwork to dispute it and it holds up under their review process, that is the paperwork Trump is talking about.