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    While Mr. Kushner has said he and his wife might move back to Manhattan if it was best for their family, he appears, for now, willing to stay and fight.
    Fight for what? Donald Trump has to fight. You can't help him with what he has to do. You might mean well, you're smart and talented, but Donald Trump knows best what to do, on everything. He didn't go to Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania for those rallies because of hat sales, he went to Michigan and Wisconsin because he saw the state polls. I saw them, they were within reach. If he'd gone to Minnesota, he would have won Minnesota, too, it was that close. Trump saw the state polls closing in and that's why he went to those states for the rallies. And if Jared saw the hat sales at the same time, then bingo, you've got diehards.

    Trump won this election because of Trump, his Message, his Rallies and his Trump Supporters.

    I think Jared and Ivanka should go back to New York. When you become the news and it's not positive, it's over. It happened to Corey although Trump stood by him. It happened to Flynn even though Trump stood by him. And now it's Jared, and like the others, Trump will stand by him. But, Trump isn't going to let this negative publicity swirl any more. No one has done anything wrong. Corey didn't do anything wrong, Flynn hasn't done anything wrong and neither has Jared, but when you become the "story", you have to step out, and let the witch hunts fizzle.

    Learn this quick .... Trump is taking on the SWAMP, he's taking on the WORLD, he's taking on TRADE, IMMIGRATION, HEALTH INSURANCE, TAX REFORM, NATO, PARIS ACCORD, the DEFICIT, the DEBT, the BUDGET, the REGULATIONS .... oh my God, so many huge tickets, so you can not be the "story" if it's negative. That's just business, and right or wrong, fair or not, it's no different in politics. The Kushners have brought 3 bad "stories", the EB5 thing the sister did, which you know caused Trump's head to explode, then trying to cozy up to Trump to sell some apartments, which you know made him furious, the Kushner brand ($1.8 B) is NOT the Trump brand ($10 B), not even by marriage twice removed, and now we have Jared and the Russians.

    Trump won this election and didn't meet with one Russian. The Russians didn't have anything to do with the election. Trump got Russia to carry the fight in Syria with a tweet and a couple of statements at Rallies during the campaign, "let Russia handle it".

    Jared did a great job on the foreign trip, but come on lets not overplay that role. King Salman ASKED Trump in a phone call months ago right after the inauguration if he would use his leadership to lead the Middle East into a new way to achieve peace and prosperity in the region. One phone call at the request of King Salman. The King saw in Trump the skills, knowledge, courage and leadership to turn the tide in the Middle East and set a new stage for peace. That's why they rolled out the red carpet and welcomed him as a Royal. That's why they invited 54 Heads of State to meet with Trump to take out ISIS, arm up against Iran and set a new road for their people of peace and prosperity in the region.

    This is all Trump. He's a One Man Machine. The other people just get in his way until they understand his whole agenda and most don't, they're in for their little piece of the puzzle but don't get the whole picture, only Trump sees that, so when you become the "story", I'm sorry, but ... it's over.

    And that's a word of warning to Gary Cohn. Gary, keep your mouth shut. Trump wants out of the Paris Accord and rightly so. He already knows more about this "accord" than you ever will, so don't tell the media he's "evolving", he's "learning", he's getting "smarter". How dare you? He knows the accord is a scam to push Germany's solar panel industry at the expense of fossil fuels, and he's 100% right on that. And keep your personal idiotic opinions on coal and its future to yourself. You've lived in a bubble your whole life so you've no idea what works best in a variety of feedstock applications. The advantages of coal are it's cheaper, burns longer and is clean with scrubbers, plus, it's good for the railroads and doesn't need pipelines or haven't you noticed how much Americans hate pipelines these days? Plus coal is safer than natural gas. Natural gas is dangerous because it ... explodes and is toxic due to the killer carbon monoxide, coal doesn't have these issues.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    This is all Trump. He's a One Man Machine. The other people just get in his way until they understand his whole agenda and most don't, they're in for their little piece of the puzzle but don't get the whole picture, only Trump sees that, so when you become the "story", I'm sorry, but ... it's over.
    You and I seem to have a difference of opinion on where Trump is at the moment. I'm starting to see the truth behind the words his wife once spoke in his defense.

    Melania Trump Defends Donald’s Behavior by Calling Him a “Boy” Who’s Easily Influenced
    https://www.brit.co/melania-trump-de...ly-influenced/

    I think Trump is being pulled in a lot of different directions and is being too easily influenced by outside groups and those he has chosen to surround himself with. I certainly don't see him as the "One Man Machine" you described him as and I'm starting to think he's not certain anymore of his exact agenda. He is waffling on some of his campaign promises and that is not a good thing. For example, he started right out of the gate breaking his promise to end DACA immediately upon his election.

    I'm hopeful Trump will recover his campaign vision as he gains experience as our President, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned about the ease at which he seems to be influenced to change his mind and positions.

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    We definitely have a difference of opinion on Trump and just about everything else.

    I saw the interview you're quoting with Melania and she did NOT say her husband was easily influenced. She said she tells her friends she has two boys at home. Some women refer to their husbands that way because their husbands still have some kid in them about certain things usually about what they want to eat, what they want to watch on television, and what they like to do in their free-time, usually related to sports with the guys that the wives aren't interested in.

    Trump isn't being "influenced", he's making the best decisions given all the options available. Most of US are going to like most of them, but probably not all. I opposed the cutting of funding for Planned Parenthood and the cut in Family Planning Funding for other countries, what they call the Mexico City Policy. I don't support much foreign aid, but I supported that aid.

    This President isn't going to please all of US all the time. But he's going to please most of US most of the time, and I'm very very good with that.
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    I think Jared and Ivanka should go back to New York.
    ASAP! young kushners go home - yea daddy loves you BUT he was elected to be president of the USA on his promises not on the kushners manipulation of him.

    The recent revelation of MORE REFUGEES - ivanka influence or did she divulge already set plans in her tv interview calling for more refugees to USA a few weeks ago. It rec'd harsh criticism that she was not elected nor voted for.
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    Yes, Ivanka and Jared need to go home to New York. They're bright, well-meaning, talented people, but as you say, they're of a different mindset than Trump. Let Trump be Trump and do what he wants his way. That's why he was elected and if he just does it his way, the way he knows it should be done, then we will make enormous progress. Taking refugees when we have 15% poverty levels of our own people, illegal aliens and immigrants is INSANITY, same as allowing all these illegal aliens to stay in the country while importing more visa workers and green card holders, it is NUTS!!

    STOP IT ALL!!

    We need a 10 to 20 Year Moratorium on All Immigration.
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