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    Levin: Paul Ryan was dead wrong on birthright citizenship. Here’s how

    Levin: Paul Ryan was dead wrong on birthright citizenship. Here’s how


    October 30, 2018

    Carmel Kookogey





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    Tuesday on the radio, LevinTV host Mark Levin ripped Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., for his response to President Trump’sstatement that he plans to issue an executive order to end birthright citizenship.



    Ryan claimed the 14th Amendment creates the birthright citizenship and that therefore such an executive order would be unconstitutional.



    “There’s been no law passed that conveys birthright citizenship onto illegal aliens. There’s been no Supreme Court decision that definitively confers birthright citizenship onto illegal alien children. Nobody’s a hundred percent certain how this came to be. But everybody seems to be a hundred percent certain that the president can’t fix it. … Well, does the Constitution confer birthright citizenship on the children of illegal aliens? Of course it doesn’t!”



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    Levin replayed a clip from his show in 2015, in which he laid out the stated purpose of the 14th Amendment and read Senator Jacob Howard’s explanation.



    “‘This will not of course include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens … but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship.’ … Is it not plain English? Is he not as clear as can be that it does not include aliens, it does not include foreigners. … The republican basis for citizenship is consent! Consent of the country! You can’t self-immigrate. You can’t claim jurisdiction because you happen to walk into the United States.”



    “What is the bottom line here? Let’s number this: They wanted to make certain that former slaves would be treated as citizens of the United States, because certain states were still resistant. … They exempted Indians, because Indians still, certainly back then, were often considered citizens of particular tribes. But these actually were very forward-looking individuals. They specifically excluded aliens and foreigners.”


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    Ryan isn't a lawyer, he doesn't know anything about the Constitution or law, he's a budget guy and actually not a very good one of those. Over-rated Ryan. No clue why the party liked him so much. Never understood it.
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    Right now there are a massive amount of Voters that left the Democrat part under the #Walkaway Movement, #Blexit Movement and even the #Mexit Movement thats just starting up. The GOP better be paying attention and fear the voters; they either toe the line and do our bidding or its game over and people will walk in massive numbers


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    President Trump reveals plan to use executive order to end birthright citizenship for children of illegals

    Trump's October surprise is yuuuuge.


    October 30, 2018
    By Thomas Lifson

    Expect an explosion of media outrage and high powered lawsuits, especially in jurisdictions with Trump-hating federal judges. President Trump has launched an October surprise.
    Last night in an interview granted to Jonathan Swan of Axios, President Trump announced his plans to use an executive order to end birthright citizenship for children born on American territory to illegal immigrants and foreign citizens, presumably at least those “not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” as required by the 14th Amendment.


    Swan does not seem pleased, at least to my eyes (HBO screen grab)


    The Washington Post reports
    “We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits,” Trump said during an interview with Axios scheduled to air as part of a new HBO series starting this weekend. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”
    Trump, who has long decried “anchor babies,” said he has discussed the move with his legal counsel and believes it can be accomplished with executive action, a view at odds with the opinions of many legal scholars.
    “It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump told Axios.
    When told that view is disputed, Trump asserted: “You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they’re saying I can do it just with an executive order.”
    “It’s in the process. It’ll happen . . . with an executive order,” he said, without offering a time frame.
    Watch the one minute segment in its entirety:



    Youtube Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0d21nQBY8o

    The Washington Post scoffs:
    The move, which many legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution, would be the boldest yet by a president elected to office pledging to take a hard line on immigration, an issue he has revived in advance of next week’s midterm elections.
    The Constitution says nothing about the children of illegal immigrants – or tourists on vacation in the US -- being entitled to citizenship. The Fourteenth Amendment reads:
    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
    The key words are “subject to the jurisdiction.” As far as the “many experts” that the WaPo cites, the only experts that will matter in the end are those in the majority of the 9 justices of the Supreme Court.
    Although Trump is not detailed in his remark, I assume that children of immigrants who are in the process of obtaining US citizenship would have citizenship passed along to their children, either immediately upon birth, or when their parents are naturalized. I leave it to legal eagles in the White House to work out the exact wording of the executive order/
    This lengthy and detailed article by P.A. Madison explores the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” as understood by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment and by subsequent legislators who drafted citizenship legislation. There is no evidence that they wished to grant citizenship to children anyone who wandered across the border, however temporarily or illegally.
    Trump’s dropping of this bombshell 8 days before the election is obviously intended to fire up both his base and his opponents, who will denounce him and – we can safely assume – go over the top and say things that defy common sense.
    The stakes could not be higher. With millions of illegals, poorly educated and unable to obtain lucrative employment, in this country and having children who will be set up for a lifetime of dependency, the Democrats’ plans to change the electorate to a majority of dependents is succeeding.


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    Order the Bureau of Vital Statistics to STOP issuing US Birth Certificates to women coming here on vacation giving birth, illegal aliens, foreigners and non-citizens, that includes work visas, TPS, refugees, asylum liars and green card holders!

    If they have NO proof they are a legal US citizen...NO Birth Certificate!

    Give them a "Certificate of Child Born Abroad"!
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