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    Quote Originally Posted by csarbww View Post
    The article is not an argument for a sensible immigration policy, it is an argument for open borders. No borders, no country.
    Plus a large dose of complete disregard for Americans.

    IMO our current policy is to pay illegals to colonize us, even tho we don't really need them. I guess someone forgot to tell the Libertarians that when Chipotle was busted for hiring illegals, they held a job fair. They had to shut it down after only one day, because so many people applied. Of course, if the geniuses behind the Libertarian nonsense had to acknowledge that, their idiocy would be plain for all to see.
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    Excellent and cogent post. I truly fear that libertarians, as products of our Marxist university system, are so psychotic about not being racists that they distort philosophical honesty to make it compatible open borders ideology (Marxists ideology), just to prove they are not racists. Read Ayn Rand and you will find none of the minority pandering that is so prevalent in contemporary libertarian writings.

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    Part of the reason it has been so hard to stop the drive for amnesty is because libertarians who should be fighting with us are working at cross purposes to us with their delusions about concocting a “good amnesty” a.k.a. “legal status.”
    PLEASE don't refer to the Libertarian Party with a lower case L libertarian!! There IS a difference!! The Libertarian Party people are a little nuts, but there are lower case L libertarians who lean very conservative republican. In NC, MANY of these people oppose abortion and illegal immigration which sets them apart from the Libertarian Party.

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    We've faced this choice on immigration before. In the early 1950s, federal agents were making a million arrests a year along the Mexican border. In response, Congress ramped up enforcement, but it also dramatically increased the number of visas available through the Bracero guest worker program. As a result, apprehensions at the border dropped 95 percent. By changing the law, we transformed an illegal inflow of workers into a legal flow.
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    A 3rd grader is able to do the math and come up with the solution that the Bracero approach is the ONLY solution remaining, other than all out MERGING MEXICO INTO THE UNITED STATES (which is an eventuality anyway).

    There are not even ten good men in the congress and senate combined willing to admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    This does NOT refer to the Libertarian Party, it refers to the conservative libertarian leaning segment of the GOP. Also called the Liberty wing or LiberTEA wing of the GOP here in NC. They are NOT the same as the Libertarian Party!
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    Braceros were the last wave of immigrant farm workers who had no other US job option except working in the fields.

    In the spring of 1942, California farmers predicted that there would be labor shortages for the fall harvest because of conscription for World War II, and asked the US and Mexican governments to allow Mexicans to work seasonally on US farms.

    Despite protests from US farm labor reformers that there was no shortage of workers, only a shortage of decent wages and working conditions, the US and Mexican governments signed a bilateral agreement in 1942 that allowed the entry of “native-born residents of North America, South America, and Central America, and the islands adjacent thereto, desiring to perform agricultural labor in the United States.”

    Between 1942 and 1964, some 4.6 million Mexicans were admitted (legally) to do farm work; many Mexicans returned year after year, but 1 to 2 million gained legal U.S. work experience. The Bracero program was small during the war years. Admissions peaked at 62,000 in 1944, meaning that less than 2 percent of the 4 million U.S. hired workers were Braceros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME View Post
    Despite protests from US farm labor reformers that there was no shortage of workers, only a shortage of decent wages and working conditions, the US and Mexican governments signed a bilateral agreement in 1942 that allowed the entry of “native-born residents of North America, South America, and Central America, and the islands adjacent thereto, desiring to perform agricultural labor in the United States.”
    Americans were doing that work, they just wanted higher wages and better working conditions. Growers succeeded in duping the American people.

    When Dolores Huerta and Cesar Chavez first organized the farm workers, Chavez was against illegals because they depressed wages.
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    The first thing that strikes me about this article is the premise that we have a dynamic labor market. The Obama academic social experiment has stifled growth and reduced our labor market to part time and 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. He needs to go back to academia and theorize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vistalad View Post
    Americans were doing that work, they just wanted higher wages and better working conditions. Growers succeeded in duping the American people.

    When Dolores Huerta and Cesar Chavez first organized the farm workers, Chavez was against illegals because they depressed wages.
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    I agree completely.

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