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What’s the Impact of Illegal Work on Social Security? Lines at Social Security Offices at the Border | Print | E-mail

By Mary Johnson

Here’s something hard to believe, but true. Our government is paying Social Security benefits to thousands of Mexicans who don’t live in this country, or were never entitled to benefits based on their own work record. A new report from the Social Security Office of Inspector General details the growing problem of thousands of Mexicans who routinely visit the United States once a month to establish a claim to Social Security benefits.

Who are these beneficiaries? The Inspector General’s report refers to these beneficiaries as dependents and survivors of other Social Security beneficiaries and subject to the Social Security Alien Nonpayment Provision (ANP) law. The ANP forbids payment of retirement, survivor and disability benefits when non-citizens have been outside the United States for more than 6 months. But as is so often the case with Social Security law, there are several exceptions; for example, if the non-citizen is from a foreign country that has its own social insurance system and meets certain conditions. Mexico is on the list of countries that meet the conditions of the exception.

U.S. law requires that, in order to meet the requirements, ANP beneficiaries must “establish physical presenceâ€

another outrage ......

sickening

Thats why ss needs to be looked at to get rid of the ones that are getting it illegally but dont do away with it alot of us have paid into it legally but there are alot of people benefitting from our ss that not intitled to it.

ss cards and numbers should be given to only those who are here legally, not friends relatives or questionable relations. You are going to be legal or illegal. No gray areas. If legal ok you get a card. If illegal...take a hike!

If you weren't already disgusted enough, a story like this comes along and makes your day. Where does the fraud, theft and insanity end with illegal invaders and mexico. These people know our system better than we do in order to cheat it! And they say SS may not be here in 30 years, but yet they have no problems serving it up to those who line up at the border every month to get theirs!

Originally Posted by NoBueno[b

]If you weren't already disgusted enough, a story like this comes along and makes your day.[/b] Where does the fraud, theft and insanity end with illegal invaders and mexico. These people know our system better than we do in order to cheat it! And they say SS may not be here in 30 years, but yet they have no problems serving it up to those who line up at the border every month to get theirs!

OMG! OMG! OMG!

Here’s something hard to believe, but true.

Unfortunately, it doesn't surprise me at all.

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Has the totalization agreement been approved? If not, how ar they lining up at the border for payments?

PART 8: Still Pending: Totalization Agreement With Mexico AwaitsOctober 28, 2010 By mrsnipe Leave a Comment


With President Obama’s Fiscal Commission working on a plan that’s expected to include cuts to Social Security benefits and cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs), TSCL continues to fight a totalization agreement that would award hundreds of millions of dollars in Social Security benefits to an estimated 1.6 million illegal Mexican workers and their dependents. The pending totalization agreement with Mexico was signed in 2004 but has not yet been sent by the President to Congress for final review.

Last year, TSCL sought and received an opinion from a respected legal team saying that, under a totalization agreement, Mexican workers appeared to have greater rights to Social Security benefits than American citizens. The memo said that in the 1960 Supreme Court case Flemming v. Nestor, the court ruled that American workers have no contractual right to receive Social Security payments. “An American worker who has faithfully paid the employment tax has no legal recourse to any of those monies deposited in the Social Security trust fund,â€