Thread: Study finds immigrants commit less California crime

this just pisses me off. not to mention it is a lie.
did they include the children of these illegal immigrants?
never mind the fact that these same immigrant parents allow there kids to join gangs.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080226/us_ ... n_crime_dc

I believe the LEGAL immigrants probably do commit less crimes as they have shown a pattern of lawfulness and respect for America.

This study is the same old trick the Open Borders Lobby constantly pulls, they are concealing the high rates of crimes by ILLEGAL ALIENS by mixing the numbers with LEGAL immigrants.

W

I saw that too. It certainly is a lie or misinformation!

Study finds immigrants commit less California crime

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.
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People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California showed.

According to the report's authors the findings suggest that long-standing fears of immigration as a threat to public safety are unjustified. The report also noted that U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate more than 2 1/2 times greater than that of foreign-born men.

"Our research indicates that limiting immigration, requiring higher educational levels to obtain visas, or spending more money to increase penalties against criminal immigrants will have little impact on public safety," said Kristin Butcher, co-author of the report and associate professor of economics at Wellesley College.

The study did not differentiate between documented immigrants and illegal immigrants.

The question of what to do about the millions of undocumented workers living in the United States has been one of the major issues in the U.S. presidential election. Mexico, which accounts for a high proportion of illegal immigrants in California, was deeply disappointed at the U.S. Congress' failure to pass President George W. Bush's overhaul of immigration laws last year.

When Butcher and her co-author, Anne Morrison Piehl, associate professor of economics at Rutgers University, considered all those committed to institutions including prison, jails, halfway houses and the like, they found an even greater disparity.

Among men 18 to 40, the population most likely to be in institutions because of criminal activity, the report found that in California, U.S.-born men were institutionalized 10 times more often than foreign-born men (4.2 percent vs. 0.42 percent).

Among other findings in the report, non-citizen men from Mexico 18 to 40 -- a group disproportionately likely to have entered the United States illegally -- are more than eight times less likely than U.S.-born men in the same age group to be in a correctional institution (0.48 percent vs. 4.2 percent).

"From a public safety standpoint, there would be little reason to further limit immigration, to favor entry by high-skilled immigrants, or to increase penalties against criminal immigrants," the report said.

(Reporting by Duncan Martell; Editing by Adam Tanner and Bill Trott)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080226/us_ ... n_crime_dc

Reporting by Duncan Martell; Editing by Adam Tanner and Bill Trott

Some how I envision these 3 men to be 5'5" 120 pounds and gently frolicking around the news room as they write this piece of junk

Fine then lets keep legal immigration going, and kick out all the illegals, 100% of who have committed crimes against Americans!

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

"Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable."

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

In addition to sneaking into the country in violation of the immigration law that requires that aliens be documented for legal entry (referred to as "entry without inspection -- EWI"), others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay in the country.

The list below are all crimes involving illegal immigration:
(1) Violating the immigration law is a FEDERAL CRIME
(2) Forging documents is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(3) Passing forged documents is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(4) Stealing ID is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(5) Using stolen ID is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME

The statement, "According to the report's authors the findings suggest that long-standing fears of immigration as a threat to public safety are unjustified." is a total distortion , if not an outright lie.

Here are just a few studies that give a much clearer picture of what is actually happening:

A US GAO study found in a study population of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated, on average, each had been arrested 8 times for a total arrest figure of at least 459,614 times. If that isn't astounding enough, these 55,322 illegals in the study population had been arrested for committing 700,000 criminal offenses, which averages 13 crimes per illegal alien. So, each illegal alien incarcerated had been arrested 8 times and had committed at least 13 crimes.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, in 2005, 25% of prisoners in federal prisons were illegal aliens, and 4% were legal aliens. This proportion has not gone down; if anything, it has gone up markedly. Bill O'Reilly is on record more recently stating that illegal aliens account for 32% of the federal and state prison population.

According to the well-respected U.S. Center for Immigration Studies (www.cis.org), incarcerated convicted illegal aliens make up 29 percent of federal, state and local prisons at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. This number doubles when the costs for apprehension, the justice system, public defenders, interpreters, prosecutors and the courts add to the total.

Illegals represent about 8 percent of Arizona's population and the Arizona Department of Corrections reports that Mexican nationals make up 12 percent of the state's 37,200-inmate prison population.

The conservative Federation for Immigration Reform contends that while illegal immigrants make up 4 percent of the total U.S. population they make up 6 percent of the total prison population.

One thing that is never even mentioned by the champions of the illegal aliens nor is factored into any crime studies is the fact that ALL illegal aliens have a 3 – 5 crimes committed head start on American citizens (see the 5 point list above).

The first generation of illegals may commit less crimes, but it is their children (the anchor babies) that are todays gang bangers. Period. Every night the news reports the latest crimes. I'd say about 9 out of 10 are hispanic surnames. This report is nothing but a big fat lie.

Originally Posted by wilma1

The first generation of illegals may commit less crimes, but it is their children (the anchor babies) that are todays gang bangers. Period. Every night the news reports the latest crimes. I'd say about 9 out of 10 are hispanic surnames. This report is nothing but a big fat lie.

The problem is these laws are rarely enforced:

The list below are all crimes involving illegal immigration:
(1) Violating the immigration law is a FEDERAL CRIME
(2) Forging documents is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(3) Passing forged documents is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(4) Stealing ID is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME
(5) Using stolen ID is a FEDERAL FELONY CRIME

The study did not differentiate between documented immigrants and illegal immigrants

The word here is immigrant!
When it serves their purpose, they group visa Doctors, that are very unlikely to be petty thieves in with illegal aliens that have shown a propensity for criminal behavior.

California, U.S.-born men were institutionalized 10 times more often than foreign-born men

Love how they are playing with the instutionalized nubmers. How about warrants? This just means that American men are doing the time for the crime, while the illegals are running and getting away because of factors such as ID theft and shagging back to their homeland to avoid prison time.

Dixie