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    Low-polling GOP candidates insist there’s time for a turn-around

    Low-polling GOP candidates insist there’s time for a turn-around

    By Joseph Weber Published December 28, 2015

    The GOP presidential field that rolled into the 2016 election cycle like a crowded bus already has dropped a few passengers, but the remaining 13 appear committed to staying on board at least through the next debates and the first two contests.

    Just three of them have double-digit numbers in an average of national polls, with front-runner Donald Trump gobbling up more than a third of primary support. On the other end, candidates such as Rick Santorum and George Pataki have failed to garner even 1 percent.

    Though Santorum has never been among the 2016 front-runners and did not compete in any of the five prime-time debates, he indicated Monday he’s thinking back to his 2012 performance – when he won the Iowa caucuses – as he approaches the same contest on Feb. 1.

    “I feel like I did four years ago,” the former Pennsylvania senator told FoxNews.com. “We’re headed to Iowa tomorrow to make contact with as many people as we can. … I don’t think that many people have made up their minds. We’re at a point now where serious people are going to make decisions about serious candidates.”

    Santorum also said he’s on all the state ballots, has a solid national organization and a “good slate of delegates” across the country.

    “I feel better about this year than I did at this time for 2012,” he said.

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is in a similar situation -- having won Iowa in his 2008 presidential bid. But this time Huckabee, a social conservative like Santorum, is polling at about 2 percent, according to the RealClearPolitics average.

    “Not one person in all of America has even voted,” Huckabee said Sunday, amid speculation over whether he and other low-polling candidates might drop out before the Iowa caucuses – or even the next GOP debate, set for Jan. 14 and hosted by Fox Business Network.

    Huckabee, too, drew some inspiration from Santorum’s 2012 Iowa finish.

    “Santorum won. He was in … sixth place out of the seven candidates, five days out from the caucuses,” he told “Fox News Sunday,” while pointing out that he still has campaign operations in all 99 Iowa counties. “This idea that this is all sewed up or fixed, I've been in that state enough to know it's just not quite like that yet.”

    Still, Huckabee and many other candidates are essentially caught in the Trump vortex -- continuing to cede poll numbers to the media-savvy billionaire businessman, which forces them into the lesser-watched, second-tier debates, erodes their name recognition and diminishes fundraising power.

    The criteria for who gets onto the main stage in the upcoming FBN debate is based on national polls as well as polls in Iowa and in New Hampshire, which on Feb. 9 holds the second primary of the cycle.

    The debate, sanctioned by the Republican National Committee, will be in South Carolina’s North Charleston Coliseum and Performing Arts Center and will focus on economic, domestic and international policy issues.

    The prime-time debate will feature candidates who by Jan. 11 place in the top six in national polls or in the top five in Iowa or New Hampshire polls.

    The remaining candidates will be invited to the early debate.

    Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul, who has been in all of the televised, main-stage debates but continues to drop in the polls, says he will not participate if forced into the early Fox Business debate.

    GOP candidate and Ohio Gov. John Kasich suggested Sunday that his strategy is to have a respectable showing in Iowa, where social conservatives do well, then finish high in New Hampshire, where voters are more closely aligned to his moderate positions.

    “I have to do well enough there,” he told ABC News. “And I think I will … catch fire. And if I catch fire, I think the sky is the limit.”

    Poor showings in both or either of the first two primaries can doom a campaign.

    Trump insists he’ll fight to the finish.

    "I will never leave the race," he declared to The Washington Post earlier this month.

    Trump is closely followed in the polls by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who leads slightly in Iowa, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

    Both appear to have enough voter support and money to extend their campaigns well beyond New Hampshire, which is followed by the South Carolina and Nevada contests and then a swing across the South, where Cruz appears to be plotting a surge.

    Cruz has about $65 million in campaign and outside money, compared with Rubio who has about $33 million in combined funds, according to OpenSecrets.org.

    Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who was the early GOP favorite, now has roughly 4 percent in the national RealClearPolitics average. However, he leads the entire 2016 presidential field in fundraising -- $103 million in campaign money and $24.8 million in outside money, the OpenSecrets site shows.

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    I wish everyone would get out of the race except Trump and make it a unanimous primary victory for Trump in every state guaranteeing his nomination at the Convention and going into the General Election united and ready to win by a landslide.

    When you know in your hearts that Trump is the leader we need, because he's the only one who will take a stand and fight it all the way, stands that are hard, hard personally, hard politically, hard publicly, and in Trump's case also hard financially, you know he is the only one that can fix our country because he's the only one with the will and skill to do it.

    You know that, every single one of you other candidates know that. So why are any of you still in the race waving your hands and interrupting people on the stage in the debates to draw pathetic attention to yourselves? Roaming around the states buying up meaningless newspaper endorsements? Pounding the pavement with religious groups convincing them to vote their religion which means voting for you over what's best for the country? Scheming and conniving plots and ploys to raise your poll levels or come in 2nd or 3rd or 4th in whatever state or maybe even 1st in one or two?

    In the GOP race, we now have 3 sitting US Senators, 1 former US Senator, 3 sitting Governors, 3 former Governors, 1 business person, 1 former business person and 1 former neurosurgeon.

    Lets take the Senators. When you're a US Senator, you are 1 of 100, which to pass legislation needs 60 votes for cloture so you can vote on a bill and you need 51 votes to pass the bill, this means you need to convince 58 of your colleagues to end debate and 50 votes to pass a bill. When you don't have the muscle or personality or charm or power or skills to convince less than 60 people to stop illegal immigration, then you don't have what it takes to stop illegal immigration in the United States.

    When you're a Governor, you're 1 of 50 Heads of our States and 20 million or more illegal aliens are happily residing within your boundaries free and as breeze doing what they do to harm our country, and not one of you have had what it takes to convince the other 49 that this must end and take the appropriate action to end it. You've given illegal aliens driver's licenses, in-state tuition, free K-12 public education, you've let them steal jobs and welfare and citizenship for their kids, and low-income housing, and run drugs and commit other crimes. And, by doing so, you've empowered, emboldened and protected them all. And now you all want to President of the United States. Really?!

    As Senators and Governors, sitting and former, you are the problem, not the solution. Same thing on trade, security, terrorists, budgets, deficits, and on and on and on. Where do think that $19 trillion in federal debt went? That's right. It all went into your States funding the poverty and problems you created. Yet you wanna be President of the United States. Really?

    You know what you all should do? You should have a meeting, a nice meeting and just ask yourselves what are you doing to our country? You need to set aside your personal career aspirations, your own personal greed, arrogance and self-importance and unanimously decide to hand this election to Donald Trump, because you know he is in fact the only person in this race who can and will fix our country.

    How totally awesome it would be for you all to announce one by one at the next debate in your opening remarks that you are withdrawing from the race for the benefit of our nation and the American People.

    We need shock and awe. Our media needs a shock. Our electorate needs some awe. The world needs both. And you have the power to deliver it, because you have the power to resign from the race and unite behind Trump so he can soar into the General Election and stomp Hillary and Bill into the ground.

    If you care anything at all about our country, that's what you will do. And no, don't be thinking about some consolation prize for a VP spot or a Cabinet Position, either, because if you had the will or skill to do right in any of those jobs, you would have already used them in the positions you've already held, and we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.

    If you want to make history and have your name remembered for being on the right side of it, you'll have the meeting, make your announcements January 14 2016 and give the American People the election they deserve and one the world will never forget.
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    As long as they are still getting money through their PACs they will hang in. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    As long as they are still getting money through their PACs they will hang in. JMO
    And that's what they'll be remembered for which is really sad.
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