Thread: Press 2 for Spanish and only 2.23 million. What?

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If i read correctly this country has been turned upside down with press 2 for Spanish, en espanol button on many corporate and governement web sites, Spanish at stores and so on and so on, for only 2.23 million adults in this country who are Limited English Proficient (LEP)?

Less than 1% and 99% of the US has to do what?

It's because of ethnocentric groupds like THE RACE fight for it, anything to mkae it harder for americans to attain work or to go about their daily lives. I see it as something very petty, if we have to press 2 for spanish and pay for bilingual education it's a victory in their mind because they can never truly compete with true americans on any level except for breaking the law and being a nuisance and drain on social services.

Yeah, what is with the "2.23 million" comment?

If i read correctly this country has been turned upside down with press 2 for Spanish, en espanol button on many corporate and governement web sites, Spanish at stores and so on and so on, for only 2.23 million adults in this country who are Limited English Proficient (LEP)?

Disillusioned, apparently only 2.23 million people in this country are limited english proficient.

How about "Press 2 For Immediate Deportation"

Originally Posted by gemini282

It's because of ethnocentric groupds like THE RACE fight for it, anything to mkae it harder for americans to attain work or to go about their daily lives. I see it as something very petty, if we have to press 2 for spanish and pay for bilingual education it's a victory in their mind because they can never truly compete with true americans on any level except for breaking the law and being a nuisance and drain on social services.

That explains why my unemployment application required me to fill out 'Hispanic [ ] Yes [ ] No'

La Raza has blackmailed their way into the Federal government. They are changing paperwork procedures and threatening Federal employees with reprisals if they don't do things the 'La Raza' way. That is why Obama made that speech about how American children should learn Spanish. Somebody way high up in the Federal food chain told him to do it or else. He tried to pass it off as a 'spontaneous comment'. But all of this stuff has been well implemented and planned behind closed doors.

Everywhere I go I see food and building materials packaged with dual English/Spanish translations. But a Spanish translation for toilet paper? Give me a break. How many of the two million "I can't speak English" Mexicans really need that? There has to be another explanation!!!

And aren't there just about the same amount of Chinese speakers or Polish speakers who need translations? Two million?

"...held in partnership with the National Immigration Forum and the National Council of La Raza."

Originally Posted by gemini282

It's because of ethnocentric groupds like THE RACE fight for it, anything to mkae it harder for americans to attain work or to go about their daily lives.

But that is exactly how the Communists took over Russia. The takeovers always start with some minor annoyances:

When Lenin took over Russia, inhabitants of certain neighborhoods were required to attend "townhall" meetings in which people could talk about what was bothering them and how to makes things better. Pretty soon the people who ran those meetings started threatening citizens for making inappropriate comments, and then later 'unpopular' citizens were threatened and arrested and jailed. We seem to be in the start of a 'requonquista'...

Originally Posted by millere

Originally Posted by gemini282

It's because of ethnocentric groupds like THE RACE fight for it, anything to mkae it harder for americans to attain work or to go about their daily lives.

But that is exactly how the Communists took over Russia. The takeovers always start with some minor annoyances:

When Lenin took over Russia, inhabitants of certain neighborhoods were required to attend "townhall" meetings in which people could talk about what was bothering them and how to makes things better. Pretty soon the people who ran those meetings started threatening citizens for making inappropriate comments, and then later 'unpopular' citizens were threatened and arrested and jailed. We seem to be in the start of a 'requonquista'...

I see what you mean that's why I never understood how it could get so far, the way LA Raza rules is by their propaganda to "their" people thinking they will somehow rule the USA and teach those "gringos" a lesson. When in reality groups like La Raza feed on these people and use them for their own agenda which is political power and money. If La Raza is so successful and has fought so hard and accomplished so much then why are 50% of hispanics high school dropout? The gringos fault? Wasn't no child left behind implemented and the dropout rates continue to climb not only for them but for blacks as well. Don't the black people have Sharpton, MLK jr.'s kids, and Jackson to fight for their rights? As I see it they don't really care about "their" people just about themselves but leave these people disillusioned thinking that the enemy is "white" when in reality the true enemy is those promising to help them. It's been over 100 years since slavery ended and more than 40 years since the civil rights movement and more minorities are on welfare than before and they belong to single parent families. I wonder why that is? Could it be because welfare and other social services paid for by tax payers allows these people to not be held accountable for their actions? To not take care of their children because the tax payer will? Free health care, education, food stamps, section 8? Who needs to work? It all comes doen to personal responsibility and personal accountability which I fear and see that more and more people are lacking either of these. If there were no signs in english, no translators for free, no esl classes for free, and no press 2 for spanish how quickly those 2.23 million would learn english and use it. I look at the asian and filipino communities, they teach their kids to value their "free" education and they go on to college at higher rates and test better than other minorities and they don't have press 2 for tagalog. I have yet to meet a filipino and I have went to high school with many who had just earned legal residency with their parents and come here to a foreign land and they try their hardest to speak english and be respectful of our laws and of the school. The difference between them and the IA is they treausure the USA and assimilate. I knew a filipino girl in college with broken english who had a degree in nursing in the Phillipines but for whatever reason she had to start over here and she didn't complain, I said how unfair but she said it was worth it to be here in the USA she'd go to school and work because the USA offered her a better future and it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and she was happy to be here.

Originally Posted by wmarincic

How about "Press 2 For Immediate Deportation"

Only 2.23 million? And how many of those are not Hispanic, but folks from other countries like France, the former Soviet satellites or even China. Even if there were mostly Hispanic in the program, it means to me the majority are not interested in learning English proficiency because they have everything they need in their own communities and they know that we will have to bend to demands from nutcases like LaRaza, plus have to provide translators at taxpayer expense for legal proceedings. The 2.23 million seem they do want to assimilate into their new culture, while the rest don't give a poop.