Thread: Melania Trump: 'I followed the law' as immigrant

Originally Posted by pkskyali

I've heard more reliable rumors that Cruz's father was a Marxist. Rubio's father was not a political refugee from Cuba, what about him?

ActuallyCruz was not a political refugee from Cuba, he was an illegal alien from Cuba who bribed a Batista official for a student visa to attend the University of Texas long before we had a political refugee program from Cuba, even before Castro took over Cuba. Cruz's father roamed our country then Canada then back to the US for decades without ever becoming a US citizen. I'm not sure how this happens for a Cuban who chose to become a Canadian citizen in the 1970's during the Vietnam War.

According to Cruz, as a teenager, he "didn't know Castro was a Communist".[12][13][14] Cruz has stated in interviews that he fled Cuba at age 18 in 1957, after an attorney for the family bribed a Batista official to grant him an exit permit.[1][15][2] Cruz said he left with $100 sewn into his underwear before the Battle of Santa Clara, in which the revolution toppled Batista on January 1, 1959.

Cruz's father left Cuba 2 years before the revolution toppled Batista.

After Cruz graduated from the University of Texas in 1961, he was granted political asylum in the United States following the expiration of his student visa.[1] He became a Canadian citizen during his residence in Canada, returning to the United States with his family in the mid-'70s. Eleanor and Rafael Cruz divorced in 1997.[33] He renounced his Canadian citizenship and in 2005 became a naturalized U.S. citizen.[1][36]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Bienvenido_Cruz

What takes someone from 1957 to 2005 to decide to become a US citizen? Were we too capitalist? Were we too free? Were we too tolerant? Were we too militaristic? What was the problem? Did he always want passports to other countries keeping one foot out of the door? Maybe 2 citizenships, Cuba and Canada?

Ted Cruz was raised by a father who took 48 years to decide to become a citizen of the United States, a nation that gave him a great education at the University of Texas, a nation that gave him a great job in the oil industry, a nation that gave him asylum after-the-fact, converting a student visa that derived from a fraud and a bribe into political asylum.

My opinion, the Cruz family has one interest, their own.

Do you think Ivanka calls her mom?

Cruz's father was never an illegal. He was here under a legal visa, later obtained a green card, and finally U.S. citizenship. Those are the actual facts.

Originally Posted by MW

Cruz's father was never an illegal. He was here under a legal visa, later obtained a green card, and finally U.S. citizenship. Those are the actual facts.

Do you have a source for that? Because according to Cruz's book he wrote according to Wiki, his father hired an attorney who bribed a Batista official to get him the visa. I don't think it was all on the up and up based on that.

Originally Posted by Judy

Do you have a source for that? Because according to Cruz's book he wrote according to Wiki, his father hired an attorney who bribed a Batista official to get him the visa. I don't think it was all on the up and up based on that.

Cruz's father applied to the University of Texas and got admitted. After that he legally obtained a student visa from the U.S. Consulate in Havana to attend the University of Texas. After receiving an exit permit from the Cuban government he left Cuba and entered the United States with a legal student visa in hand. Upon expiration of the visa he applied for and was granted political asylum. If you want to argue how he obtained an exit permit from Cuba, that's fine, however that doesn't change the fact that he was issued a legal student visa from the U.S. government and upon expiration of the visa was given political asylum. At no time upon his arrival in the U.S. was he an illegal alien.

I suppose those things called 'facts' can be pesky irritants when they don't support a personal agenda.

Originally Posted by MW

Cruz's father applied to the University of Texas and got admitted. After that he legally obtained a student visa from the U.S. Consulate in Havana to attend the University of Texas. After receiving an exit permit from the Cuban government he left Cuba and entered the United States with a legal student visa in hand. Upon expiration of the visa he applied for and was granted political asylum. If you want to argue how he obtained an exit permit from Cuba, that's fine, however that doesn't change the fact that he was issued a legal student visa from the U.S. government and upon expiration of the visa was given political asylum. At no time upon his arrival in the U.S. was he an illegal alien.

I suppose those things called 'facts' can be pesky irritants when they don't support a personal agenda.

Oh, okay, then just post the source of your facts, that's how we determine them to be facts and not something else.

Originally Posted by Judy

Oh, okay, then just post the source of your facts, that's how we determine them to be facts and not something else.

Exactly what are you disputing? You can find this information easily own your own. Let google be your friend.