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    Mexicans say changing NAFTA may force them to move to U.S

    First, we were told they were moving here because of NAFTA. Now apparently, some will be moving here if NAFTA is renegotiated


    MEXICO CITY — Jesus Velasquez doesn't want to move to the United States. He fears, however, that he may have to if he loses his job selling avocados. Velasquez, 36, says he and his family have benefited from the North American Free Trade Agreement. For him, the alternative is to immigrate to the United States.

    "The trade act is good because we have jobs," he said Sunday, speaking loudly over the clamor of hundreds of workers hauling fruits and vegetables off rumbling trucks. "If there are no jobs, more people are going to go to the U.S. I have so many friends who can't find jobs and leave."

    As voters in Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island and Vermont prepare to go to the polls Tuesday, some workers and distributors at this 800-acre food market, one of the biggest in the world, are expressing concern about presidential candidates Hillary Clinton's and Barack Obama's threats to pull out of NAFTA unless it's .

    NAFTA is unpopular in Ohio, a key battleground state for Clinton and Obama, where thousands of manufacturing workers have lost jobs.

    Several vendors at the Central de Abasto food market said NAFTA isn't perfect. Prices on many products have risen, and many corn farmers said they've been run out of business because of the influx of cheaper American-grown feed corn. But overall, they say, NAFTA has been good for the country, and they worry what changes the U.S. would seek should it return to the negotiating table with Mexico and Canada.

    "People are worried," said Gerardo Peralta, 55, who sells rice, nuts and condiments. "If the U.S. tries to renegotiate, they are going to do what's best for them. That could be bad for Mexico."

    Some Mexican leaders sought to downplay the candidates' statements as political rhetoric and "campaign talk."

    Sen. Ricardo Garcia Cervantes said that any renegotiation of NAFTA would be based on the issues and not on the "heated statements" made by the American political candidates in hopes of gaining their party's nomination.

    "In this electoral environment, one that we have to be very attentive to, we also have to be aware that many of these declarations by the Democratic candidates and Republicans are made for gaining votes," Garcia Cervantes, chairman of the Mexican Foreign Relations Commission for North America, said in a statement.

    Mexico has gained because of NAFTA, according to Mexican Economy Secretary Eduardo Soto. He told a gathering last week of U.S., Canadian, and Mexican representatives that the Mexican economy has grown 51 percent because of NAFTA, that nearly 5 million jobs have been generated and that exports to the U.S. and Canada have multiplied five times.

    "As representatives of the Mexican government, we do not want to insert ourselves into the U.S. political campaigns," he said. "However, we are convinced that what North America needs is more integration and not less integration. North America needs to look to the future and not return to the past."

    Avocados have flourished under NAFTA, but not everyone is in favor of the trade agreement. Last month, hundreds of thousands of farmers clogged Mexico City streets with tractors to protest lifting corn tariffs under the free-trade agreement.

    Corn farmers said the entry of cheap imported corn has undermined their profits, and towns are emptying because thousands of small farms have gone out of business. Many head to the U.S. illegally looking for better pay.

    "It's not that we're against free trade," said Victor Suarez, the executive director of ANEC, a farmers' coalition, who helped organize the Mexico City rally. "We're in favor of free trade that is balanced — not one that is for corporations and monopolies. We want free trade that is fair for all parties involved."

    (Ordonez reports for The Charlotte Observer.)

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    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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    this is nothing but an open act of war... Invasion number 2.
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    WHERE'S THE FENCE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    WHERE'S THE FENCE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Precisely! These people tell us they are going to come and we still refuse to build the wall. Disgusting!
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    Strip NAFTA , Close the border . Long Live the USA and God Bless her
    Nam vet 1967/1970 Skull & Bones can KMA .Bless our Brothers that gave their all ..It also gives me the right to Vote for Chuck Baldwin 2008 POTUS . NOW or never*
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    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Strip NAFTA , Close the border . Long Live the USA and God Bless her
    No, Close the Border, and then Stirp NAFTA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Strip NAFTA , Close the border . Long Live the USA and God Bless her
    No, Close the Border, and then Stirp NAFTA.
    No, No, close the border, make all illegals self-deport or deport them, take away any and all freebies, then strip NAFTA.
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    This is more propaganda! The majority of economical reports state that NAFTA has hurt small, individual farmers!

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    why do we allow the MAINSTREAM PRESS to continue this charade of OBFUSCATION?

    MEXICO is the clear WINNER in the NAFTA sweepstakes... Here are the numbers that don't lie:

    US Imports fr Mexico before NAFTA (1992) $35B
    US Exports to Mexico before NAFTA (1992) $41 B

    US Imports from Mexico AFTER NAFTA (2006) $198 B
    US Exports to Mexico AFTER NAFTA (2006) $134 B

    So the US went from a positive balance of $6B to a deficit of $64B....

    So why are the MEXICANS complaining?... certain parts of NAFTA were a bad deal for them... but BLAME the Mexican authorities for signing it.... but MEXICO overall is the winner!

    The WSJ is even saying that this imbalance would have occurred if NAFTA had not been signed. If that is true, then why DID we sign it?

    Why are OBAMA and HILLARY complaining? because the UNIONS want them to complain.... and their friends the illegals BLAME NAFTA for their coming to the US in search of the (agricultural) jobs that left Mexico...
    No soy de los que se dicen 'la raza'... Am not one of those racists of "The Race"

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