Thread: Dare I Say:Secure Borders, End Sanctuaries, Deport Illegals

Pete Stiglich, Dare I Say: Secure borders, end sanctuaries, deport illegals

Pete Stiglich
Updated: 01/08/2009 09:54:57 AM PST


What part of illegal alien is so difficult to understand? Apparently, there are those who are either too confused, too unwilling or too incapable of understanding the meaning of those simple words.

Instead, they'd rather emotionalize any debate on illegal immigration with cries of racism, discrimination and an alleged lack of compassion for our fellow human beings. They choose this course rather than honestly dealing with the established fact we are a nation of laws - laws intended and necessary to preserve civility and order for our common good.

I, for one, refuse to be intimidated or influenced by such capricious, illogical labels and accusations. Name-calling is certainly a last resort for the weak, the ignorant and the indefensible.

Perhaps a quick refresher on immigration law would prove useful. Title 8, Section 1325 of the US Code, Improper Entry by Alien states the following:

"Any citizen of any country other than the United States who: Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;...has committed a federal crime. Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional
civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense."
Over the years, the population of illegal aliens in California and throughout the nation has grown considerably. Latest estimates range anywhere from 9-11 million to more than 20 million illegals nationwide.

California's illegal alien population was estimated to be more than 2.8 million by the Department of Homeland Security in 2006. The Federation for American Immigration Reform puts that number at well over 3.4 million. Given the obvious lack of effective control and accountability, no one knows for sure. A recent estimate suggests California taxpayers are spending approximately $15 billion each year on educating, incarcerating and providing healthcare and other social services to illegals. That's money that otherwise could be better invested in meeting the basic necessities of legal residents. You'll have to ask the democratic majority in Sacramento why we continue this foolish expenditure.

On a somewhat related matter, the California State Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments on the constitutionality of our state law allowing undocumented students to pay in-state tuition at public colleges and universities. The same opportunity is not, however, offered to legal out-of-state students as is the intent of federal law.

The in-state cost advantage is significant. The LA Times reports that a University of California school charges about $28,600 for out-of-state undergraduates. Eligible in-state undocumented students pay only $8,000. A California resident pays $26 per unit to attend a community college, while out-of-state students pay between $140 and $170. Of course, rest assured that you, the taxpayer, are subsidizing these discounted in-state tuition costs.

So, where do we go from here? What's the appropriate action to take?

In my mind, it's simple. We either decide to fully enforce the requirements of Title 8, Section 1325 or we repeal it in its entirely, succumbing ultimately to all the chaos and risks of open borders. For surely, it would be wholly unreasonable and unfair to allow illegals from one country to enter while not affording the same privilege to all others.

Suggestions of granting amnesty are simply a way to avoid dealing with the real problem. Let us not forget former President Reagan's amnesty program of the 80s, intended to clear the slate and solve America's illegal immigration problem once and for all. To call that policy decision a complete failure would be an understatement to say the least.

The true solution, the only real and lasting solution, is to enforce current law. Failure to do so sends a clear and unmistakable message to the rest of the world community that America has no backbone, no commitment, no real willingness to enforce the rule of law within its borders. This can not, will not, be allowed to happen, if I have anything to say about it.

Besides an honest effort to enforce the provisions of Title 8, I would support the following:

1. Complete the 850+ mile double layer security fence on our southern border and ensure proper staffing of the US Border Patrol.

2. Implement a comprehensive program that ensures those entering illegally or overstaying lawful status will not be able to obtain employment, public assistance benefits, public education, public housing, or any other taxpayer-funded benefits without detection.

3. Apply stiff penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegals, to include loss of business licenses.

4. Withhold all state and federal funds from Sanctuary Cities for failure to comply with applicable laws.

5. Ensure Birthright Citizenship does not apply to the children of illegal aliens as is presently the case.

6. Establish a single tamper-proof national identification card. In addition to verifying legal residency, the card could be used in lieu of separate cards for Selective Service registration, Medicare, Medical, Social Security and drivers licenses. Conceivably, it could contain critical, life saving medic alert information as well. A One Card Fits All approach makes perfect sense and, in my opinion, is no more invasive to my right to privacy than current requirements.

I say take away all the incentives and begin enforcing current law and most illegals will self-deport.

That's already beginning to happen with passage of tough anti-illegal immigrant laws throughout the country, along with the worsening job market.

Those that don't go voluntarily must be deported. It took many years for this problem to develop. It will likely take years for it to be solved.

But, I can be patient so long as I know we have seriously begun to secure our borders, end sanctuaries and deport illegals.

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Col. Pete Stiglich, retired, served 26 years in the US Air Force and lives in Cottonwood. Write to him at peterstiglich@yahoo.com

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How about the landlords that rent to undocumented immigrants and their guests?

Originally Posted by vmonkey56

How about the landlords that rent to undocumented immigrants and their guests?

Yes I will agree with that one, and the illegals who are buying property?

Why don't they check their legal status at the Welfare office? Why is it illegal to find out if someone is legal?

In my condo complex I have started pushing for buyers and renters to be checked for immigration status as well. If they have a foreign passport, no driver's license, or immigration papers we should not allow them to move in here. We have a Jamican women with her sons in our complex and her sons sell drugs as they are illegal. They beat an man in his 80's due to him saying that they sell drugs. The poor old man was too afraid to press charges and told police he doesn't know who did it but yet told ohers who it was. This was a perfect opprotunity to institute the new screening rule.

Any time I've ever had to take out a loan to buy a house, a car or even a washing machine, I've always had to supply documents to the loan officers to prove I am who I say I am. What's the big deal? It only makes sense.

These militant Latino activist groups have pushed their Aztlan agenda too far and they're basically saying everybody else in the USA can be asked for proper ID, but if they are Latino, we can't ask or else we'll be labeled as "rascists." That's so stupid, but it's amazing how many people have eaten that BS up and will willfully regurgitate it.

I have to prove who I am all the time in this society to get things of importance, it's only fair that Latinos, legal or illegal should have to do the same. EQUALITY...remember? What ever happened to that? Militant Latino groups are perpetrating extortion upon the American people to get their Aztlan agenda pushed through and those groups need to be investigated by the FBI and dismantled.

From http://www.voiceofthepeopleusa.com/index.html


Federal laws not enforced—why?

8 USC Sec 1325 - Illegal Entry
Any alien who enters U.S. other than at port of entry by false or misleading representation shall be subject to civil and criminal penalties can be fined and imprisoned

Section 1324a Hiring - Harboring - Transporting any illegal alien
Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/ transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2,000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of vehicle or property used to commit the crime.
Section 1324c Law officers have authority to make arrests...
All officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws shall have authority to make arrests for violation of any provision of this section

Section 1644
No local ordinance, rule, or measure shall stop law enforcement officers from enforcement of this section (affirmed Southern District Court of NY, US vs. Rudy Giuliani, 1996.

There is a law in Florida about selling to illegals and there was an amendment vote on it. The law still stands now if someone would just enforce it. The banks will lend money to illegals to buy property. In fact to get a mortgage if you don't have a SSN or proof of legal residence or citizenship then you can use a tax number which is what illegals who don't use fake ID have.

No one, other than American citizens should be able to buy property in the USA. Home mortgages going to illegal aliens is treason and should carry the same punishment as any other treasonist act against this country.

I think legal residents should be allowed to buy homes as well. In South Florida we have many snowbirds who own property and some of them are Canadian. I don't have a problem with that either becuase the majority come for the winter and leave before 6 months is up. The odd ones may try to work for cash but they get caught very quickly so you don't see too much of it. A friend of mine has a brother who owns a restaraunt on the beach and has given a temporary job a few Canadians when it really busy for a few weeks or a month and immigration would always catch them but when it came to Mexicans and Central Americans they almost turned a blind eye. He could never understand this and I neither can I as all of them are breaking the same law.