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    MSNBC: Unskilled "immigrant" workers don't hurt ou

    I thought I would post this in case any needs more to seethe about. His arguements are full of holes and half truths and sound as if he is one of the employers lobbying Congress to "keep 'em coming" because we need millions more of low skilled illegal aliens.

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    Do unskilled immigrants hurt the American economy?
    —Francelia, Santa Ana, Calif.

    The short answer is — not really.
    It’s true that higher-skilled workers generally make more money and, therefore, spend more and pay more taxes than unskilled workers — all of which benefit the economy. But a policy that allowed only highly-skilled workers to come to the U.S. — by itself — wouldn’t create more highly-skilled jobs.
    Congress is wrestling with the issue, although a comprehensive bill that made it to the Senate floor was mortally wounded last week when supporters failed to win enough votes to cut off debate on a blizzard of amendments.
    Debate over the bill has featured plenty of behind-the-scenes maneuvering over which groups of workers, if any, should be given preferential treatment. But with the U.S. unemployment rate at historically low levels, there seem to be plenty of unskilled jobs to go around. Or at least that’s what many lobbyists representing agriculture, hotel owners and other service industries were telling Congress.
    Many companies also have been urging Congress to ease immigrations restrictions so they can hire more highly-skilled workers, like software engineers. (The list of those lobbying to ease restrictions includes Microsoft, which jointly owns MSNBC.com with NBC Universal.)
    Any compromise that eventually is struck will have an impact on specific industries. But overall, the arrival of new immigrants is neither good nor bad for the U.S. economy, according to Boston University economics professor Laurence Kotlikoff.
    “Immigrants are basically a wash, fiscally speaking,â€
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    not really? Which is it MSNBC does it or does it not. Stop playing mind games with the American people.

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    There's no question that many unskilled American workers have been coping with meager wages and grim job prospects for the past 30 years. But there are much bigger reasons than the arrival of foreign workers. Technology and automation began eroding the growth of manufacturing jobs in the 1980s. The decline of organized labor has also been a factor in slowing the growth of wages. Closing the borders won’t reverse those trends.
    I believe the influx of illegals has also affected that organized labor because they will work so cheap....didn't see that mentioned. Closing the border may not reverse any other trends, but it would give more citizens a chance to keep their jobs at the highest wage possible. This is disgusting.
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    [quote]But overall, the arrival of new immigrants is neither good nor bad for the U.S. economy, according to Boston University economics professor Laurence Kotlikoff.
    “Immigrants are basically a wash, fiscally speaking,â€

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    without illegals, our industry and farmers would find ways to modernize. As it is they don't. this hurts our workers in that they are not being trained to support the automation necessary to modernize.

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    [quote]“Immigrants are basically a wash, fiscally speaking,â€
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    Honestly, I think MSNBC did us a favor (unknowingly) publishing this article because it completely removes a vital part of the pro-illegal immigrant (big business & special interest) activists argument. How many times have I heard our enemies say that illegals are critical to our economy? Well, if they're not - than what excuse is there for not enforcing our immigration laws?

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    OK ALIPAC TEAM HERE IS THE LINK TO THE NEW FAX, WE NEED EVERYBODY CALLING, FAXING AND E-MAILING, AND POSTING SO WE KNOW WHAT YOUR HEARING. LET THEM KNOW U.S.CITIZENS HAVE COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND ARE SEEING THE LIGHT!!!!!!

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