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    MUST SEE

    You must see this trailer of From Freedom to Facism it came out 5/16/06 but it sure didn't come here!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N331kGvh0U0
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    I wish they would have gone into more detail, but the part where George Bush Sr. mentioned the new world order.....I wish I could have heard that whole speech.
    Maybe we could find it somewhere.
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    Looks ridiculously paranoid to me. Very Michael Moore. I'll pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC
    Looks ridiculously paranoid to me. Very Michael Moore. I'll pass.
    It's dead accurate, and if you aren't aware of these facts then you have not been paying attention.

    For what it's worth, I had my own little interview with the IRS officials at the Dallas federal building, and they were no more able or willing to answer the question regarding the law requiring one to file or pay taxes against wages, salaries, or any due compensation for labor, than was the IRS director in the clip.

    I am not prepared to make any disparaging remarks about anyone who dismisses the claims made in the clip, but I would say that it would be foolhardy to dismiss them out of hand. Even a relatively small amount of research will open your eyes if you want them to be open. There are none so blind...

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    I'm not expert enough to know for sure whether it's a Michael Moore type of promotion, BUT it was enough to where I wish it had more details and was more clear. I mean it sends a strong message, but how about facts and information to back up the claims.

    It just leaves one hanging and scratching your head. It was scarey. I don't know.

    I would really like to have heard that speech though where Bush Sr. mentioned the New World Order. (I hate to capitalize those words).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
    I'm not expert enough to know for sure whether it's a Michael Moore type of promotion, BUT it was enough to where I wish it had more details and was more clear. I mean it sends a strong message, but how about facts and information to back up the claims.

    It just leaves one hanging and scratching your head. It was scarey. I don't know.

    I would really like to have heard that speech though where Bush Sr. mentioned the New World Order. (I hate to capitalize those words).
    You really have never heard the famous George H.W. Bush NWO speech?
    It was part of his 1991 State of the Union address. The speech primarily addressed the effects and ramifications of the Gulf conflict. Here is the relevant excerpt:

    Until now, the world we’ve known has been a world divided – a world of barbed wire and concrete block, conflict and cold war.

    Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations.

    The Gulf war put this new world to its first test, and, my fellow Americans, we passed that test.

    For the sake of our principles, for the sake of the Kuwaiti people, we stood our ground. Because the world would not look the other way, Ambassador [Saud Nasir] al-Sabah, to-night, Kuwait is free.

    Tonight as our troops begin to come home, let us recognise that the hard work of freedom still calls us forward. We’ve learned the hard lessons of history. The victory over Iraq was not waged as "a war to end all wars." Even the new world order cannot guarantee an era of perpetual peace. But enduring peace must be our mission ...
    Basically, Bush was enunciating a vision of global governance under the United Nations, and he says as much when he speaks of the "historic vision of (the United Nations') founders." The UN is and always has been a socialist institution with aspirations of supranational governance. Some would say that it is no more than an outmoded utopian pipe dream, but a careful look into the backgrounds of those who pushed the creation of the UN reveals not utopianism, but rather despotism. The robber barons, monarchs and banking elite who were behind the "vision" of the UN were less about philanthropy and justice than they were and are about greed and lust for power.

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    A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfil the historic vision of its founders
    You nailed it Crockets! This is the sentence that said it all. "Founders" of the U.N., not to be confused with the vision of our founding fathers, who were probably rolling over in their gaves when he uttered those words.

    I myself, can't wait to see the film. I sure wish they would get it out there already!

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    Re: MUST SEE

    Quote Originally Posted by xanadu
    You must see this trailer of From Freedom to Facism it came out 5/16/06 but it sure didn't come here!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N331kGvh0U0
    Didn't come here either. Boy, you sure know how to scare the socks off someone, xanadu!!

    I have major chill even if only 1/4 of what they say on that video is true.

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    OPENS JULY 28 NATIONWIDE

    apparently it opened in Europe before here... go figure that one?

    Bob this is NOT Michael Moore. Every bit of information that was in that trailer can be confirmed in our Library of Congress and other credible sources of history.

    You are certainly free (at this time anyway) to make your own choices but I urge you to inform yourself of the history so you can act in an informed manner to alter the future. IF we do NOT take back this nation we will loose it and therefore our liberty forever.

    See that search button up there at the top of your browser? push it and search the following items. The history of this nation (well hidden from us) reads like a Tom Clancey novel.

    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913
    The Emergency Banking Act of 1933
    Fractional Banking
    Fiat or Flat Money
    Bankruptcies OF the United States of America 1933
    and THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1950, 1977 and 1993
    If you want more significant moments to search pm me. Those that I have suggested are the death blows to our nation and our freedom.

    Notice anything different about the way both names are written? Can you tell me why? If you can find out the area of land that the federal government actually legally has jurisdiction over. Curiosity peaked yet? I hope so your future depends upon your ability to take action to reclaim that which has been taken from you and every soverign citizen of this nation.

    Ps A dose of reality might wet your appetite for more information. Ck out what the Czar of Russia did for the people of this nation at the begining of the Civil War. Patriots, Presidents and even Russian Czars have sacraficed for our freedom. That some close their eyes, cover their ears and bury their minds in the sand does those who went before us a grave disservice.

    It makes me ashamed that our citizens have grown so apathetic but perhaps those who are young can be understood. They are too young to remember when government wasn't in EVERY aspect of your life and you were free to travel sans seat belt or flush 3 gallons down the toilet.

    All that holds the concept of The United States of America alive today is our assumptions we are a free people. We are not free not in the sense our forefathers intended but it will get a great deal worse for our children if we fail to assert our rights in the coming months. Time is of the essence.
    "Liberty CANNOT be preserved without general knowledge among people" John Adams (August 1765)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
    I wish they would have gone into more detail, but the part where George Bush Sr. mentioned the new world order.....I wish I could have heard that whole speech.
    Maybe we could find it somewhere.
    Funny you should mention that particular speech, LEGAL.
    THAT'S EXACTLY when I got up from the couch and started ranting and raving. The exact moment that I knew what I believed was right and the repubs were just as deeply involved as the dems in this global attack on sovereignty with the USofA smack dab in the bulls eye.

    I heard it and will never forget it.
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