Thread: The NAFTA super highway

The NAFTA super highway
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Tuesday, August 29, 2006

This is a "mind-boggling concept," exploded Lou Dobbs. It must cause Americans to think our political and academic elites have "gone utterly mad." What had detonated the mild-mannered CNN anchor?

Dr. Robert Pastor, vice chair of the Council on Foreign Relations Task Force on North America, had just appeared before a panel of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations -- to call for erasing all U.S. borders and a merger of the United States, Mexico and Canada in a North American union stretching from Prudhoe Bay to Guatemala.

Under the Pastor-CFR plan, the illegal alien invasion would be solved by eliminating America's borders and legalizing the invasion. We would no longer defend the Rio Grande.

"What we need to do," Pastor instructed, "is forge a new North American Community. ... Instead of stopping North Americans on the borders, we ought to provide them with a secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed through tolls."

The Pastor-CFR project, for "economic integration" of Mexamerica, is on the drawing board. North-south highways and railways would be built to weld us together as the American Union was welded together by the Northern Pacific, Union Pacific and Southern Pacific, and Ike's Interstate Highway System.

Speaking in Madrid in 2002, Mexican President Vicente Fox declared: "Our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Critical element of the Fox post-NAFTA agenda: absolute freedom of movement for persons between Mexico and the United States -- a merger of the nations. Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Debrez put it succinctly in April 2005. What Mexico is about is "complete integration" of the two nations.

To appreciate what Fox, Debrez, Pastor and the CFR wish America to merge with, consider a few excerpts from the State Department information sheet on Mexico.

While hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens marched beneath Mexican flags in U.S. cities on May Day to demand amnesty, Mexico's constitution "prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detentions and deportations."

"Crime in Mexico continues at high levels, and it is often violent, especially in Mexico City, Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo (and) Acapulco," State warns U.S. travelers. "Low apprehension rates and conviction rates of criminals contribute to the high crime rate."

"Women traveling alone are especially vulnerable. ... Victims ... have been raped, robbed of personal property or abducted and then held while their credit cards are used at various businesses and automatic teller machines. ... Kidnapping, including the kidnapping of non-Mexicans, continues at alarming rates."

When Fox proposed his merger of America and Mexico in a North American Union, Robert Bartley, for 30 years editorial page editor of The Wall Street Journal, declared him a "visionary" and pledged solidarity: "He (Fox) can rest assured that there is one voice north of the Rio Grande that supports his vision ... this newspaper."

The American people never supported NAFTA, and they are angry over Bush's failure to secure the border -- but a shotgun marriage between our two nations appears prearranged. Central feature: a ten-lane, 400-yard-wide NAFTA Super Highway from the Mexican port of Lazaro Cardenas, up to and across the U.S. border, all the way to Canada. Within the median strip dividing the north and south car and truck lanes would be rail lines for both passengers and freight traffic, and oil and gas pipelines.

As author Jerome Corsi describes this Fox-Bush autobahn, container ships from China would unload at Lazaro Cardenas, a port named for the Mexican president who nationalized all U.S. oil companies in 1938. From there, trucks with Mexican drivers would run fast lines into the United States, hauling their cargo to a U.S. customs inspection terminal -- in Kansas City, Mo. From there, the trucks would fan out across America or roll on into Canada. Similar super-highways from Mexico through the United States into Canada are planned.

According to Corsi, construction of the Trans-Texas Corridor, the first leg of the NAFTA Super Highway, is to begin next year.

The beneficiaries of this NAFTA Super Highway project would be the contractors who build it and the importers and outlet stores for the Chinese-manufactured goods that would come flooding in. The losers would be U.S. longshoremen, truckers, manufacturers and taxpayers.

The latter would pay the cost of building the highway in Mexico and the United States, both in dollars and in the lost sovereignty of our once-independent American republic.

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W. Please tell me ALIPAC's plans to stop this super highway or is it to late?What exactaly can we do to put a stop to this when most people in America doesn't know one thing about it? I am not being sarcastic here I really want to know what our plans are concerning this.

This globalist agenda of the corporate elites in the US and elsewhere, which is to meld the US into a North American Union and to keep our borders with Mexico and Canada open, is frightening, and I believe is not just "conspiracy theory" but is a reality that is now pretty far advanced. (I should say that I have never subscribed to conspiracy theories and have both feet squarely planted on the ground).

If you go to the August Review archives (www.augustreview.com), and read the scholarly research of Patrick Wood who has been researching this since the 1970s, he explains in the most understandable, yet comprehensive way, what the agenda truly is and how this "thing" developed.........it is pure evil, and his guiding principle for tracking this agenda is "follow the money."

What exactly can we do to put a stop to this when most people in America doesn't know one thing about it?

Patrick Wood was asked this question during a 3-hour long interview on the Laurie Roth show (the radio broadcast is also on the August Review web site).

His response was that the people who are behind this need to be called out into public discourse so that people know exactly what is going on. The very scary thing about this is that the plan to develop the NAU is pretty far along, on track to meet the target date of 2010.

The other thing that has happened is that Congress gave away to the President the power to enact these "agreements" (NAFTA, CAFTA, etc), which has enabled the President, who is in the deathgrip of these globalists, to make an end-run around Congress. At some point, I think Congress needs to reclaim their power. This may be our only hope.

I wrote to Patrick Wood last week to ask a few questions, and he has said that every President since Jimmy Carter has bought into this globalist agenda, and that there will not be a major Presidential candidate supported by either pary in the future who is not a bona fide supporter of this agenda to further the NAU.

Mr. Wood also sent me a curent list of the members of the trilateral Commision, who started this whole thing back in 1973, and I can post this if you want to see who some of these people are.

One more thing. Jerome Corsi had filed a petition to the fed government under the Freedom of Informaion Act to get the list of individuals who made up the working committees under the SPP. Apparently, after stonewalling, at least some of this info was turned over at end of July. So, I would expect that he may have more to say about this sometime very soon.

Originally Posted by nittygritty

W. Please tell me ALIPAC's plans to stop this super highway or is it to late?What exactaly can we do to put a stop to this when most people in America doesn't know one thing about it? I am not being sarcastic here I really want to know what our plans are concerning this.

It's going to be hard to stop since the elites refuse to even acknowledge its existance.

It looks like everything now is being done behind the scenes to accomplish what the corporations want without the bother of that old, outmoded democratic process we used to hear about.

Originally Posted by Kate

Mr. Wood also sent me a curent list of the members of the trilateral Commision, who started this whole thing back in 1973, and I can post this if you want to see who some of these people are.

Yes - please post the list. I would be very interested to see it.

This is a partial list of the Trilateral Commission members and includes just the executive committee and the North American group. There are at least another 100 or more members. Also, membership for the Council on Foreign Relations can be found on their web site.


Trilateral Commission – Membership as of February 2006

Executive Committee:

THOMAS S. FOLEY North American Chairman
PETER SUTHERLAND European Chairman
YOTARO KOBAYASHI Pacific Asia Chairman
ALLAN E. GOTLIEB North American Deputy Chairman
HERVÉ DE CARMOY European Deputy Chairman
KIM KYUNG-WON Pacific Asia Deputy Chairman
LORENZO H. ZAMBRANO North American Deputy Chairman
ANDRZEJ OLECHOWSKI European Deputy Chairman
SHIJURO OGATA Asia Deputy Chairman
DAVID ROCKEFELLER Founder and Honorary Chairman
PAUL A. VOLCKER North American Honorary Chairman
GEORGES BERTHOIN European Honorary Chairman
OTTO GRAF LAMBSDORFF European Honorary Chairman
MICHAEL J. O'NEIL North American Director
PAUL RÉVAY European Director
TADASHI YAMAMOTO Pacific Asia Director


NORTH AMERICAN GROUP

Madeleine K. Albright, Principal, The Albright Group LLC, Washington, DC; former U.S. Secretary of State

Graham Allison, Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

G. Allen Andreas, Chairman and Chief Executive, Archer Daniels Midland Company, Decatur, IL

Michael H. Armacost, Shorenstein Distinguished Fellow, Asia/Pacific Research Center, Stanford University, Hillsborough, CA; former President, The Brookings Institution; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs

Charlene Barshefsky, Senior International Partner, Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative

Alan R. Batkin, Vice Chairman, Kissinger Associates, New York, NY
Doug Bereuter, President, The Asia Foundation, San Francisco, CA; former Member, U.S. House of Representatives

*C. Fred Bergsten, Director, Institute for International Economics, Washington, DC; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs

Catherine Bertini, Professor of Public Administration, Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY; former Under-Secretary-General for Management, United Nations

Dennis C. Blair, USN (Ret.), President and Chief Executive Officer, Institute for Defense Analyses, Alexandria, VA; former Commander in Chief, U.S. Pacific Command

Herminio Blanco Mendoza, Private Office of Herminio Blanco, Mexico City, NL; former Mexican Secretary of Commerce and Industrial Development

Geoffrey T. Boisi, Chairman & Senior Partner, Roundtable Investment Partners LLC, New York, NY; former Vice Chairman, JPMorgan Chase, New York, NY

Stephen W. Bosworth, Dean, Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, Medford, MA; former U.S. Ambassador to the Republic of Korea

David G. Bradley, Chairman, Atlantic Media Company, Washington, DC
Harold Brown, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; General Partner, Warburg Pincus & Company, New York, NY; former U.S. Secretary of Defense

*Zbigniew Brzezinski, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; Robert Osgood Professor of American Foreign Affairs, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; former U.S. Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs

Louis C. Camilleri, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Altria Group, Inc., New York, NY

Raymond Chrétien, Strategic Advisor, Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP, Montreal, QC; Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Center for International Studies of the University of Montreal; former Associate Under-Secretary of State of External Affairs; former Ambassador of Canada to the Congo, Belgium, Mexico, the United States and France

William T. Coleman III, Founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer, Cassatt Corporation; Founder, former Chairman and CEO and Member, Board of Directors, BEA Systems, Inc., San Jose, CA

William T. Coleman, Jr., Senior Partner and the Senior Counselor, O’Melveny & Myers, Washington, DC; former U.S. Secretary of Transportation

Timothy C. Collins, Senior Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, Ripplewood Holdings, New York, NY

Richard N. Cooper, Maurits C. Boas Professor of International Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chairman, U.S. National Intelligence Council; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Economic Affairs

E. Gerald Corrigan, Managing Director, Goldman, Sachs & Co., New York, NY; former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Michael J. Critelli, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pitney Bowes Inc., Stamford, CT

Lee Brooks Cullum, Columnist, Dallas Morning News, Dallas, TX

Gerald L. Curtis, Burgess Professor of Political Science, Columbia University, New York, NY; Visiting Professor, Graduate Research Institute for Policy Studies, Tokyo

Douglas Daft, former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Coca Cola Company, Atlanta, GA

Lynn Davis, Senior Political Scientist, The RAND Corporation, Arlington, VA; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security

Lodewijk J. R. de Vink, Chairman, Global Health Care Partners, Peapack, NJ; former Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Warner-Lambert Company

Arthur A. DeFehr, President and Chief Executive Officer, Palliser Furniture, Winnipeg, MB

André Desmarais, President and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Power Corporation of Canada, Montréal, QC; Deputy Chairman, Power Financial Corporation

John M. Deutch, Institute Professor, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA; former Director of Central Intelligence; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense

Jamie Dimon, President and Chief Operating Officer, JPMorgan Chase, New York, NY

Peter C. Dobell, Founding Director, Parliamentary Centre, Ottawa, ON

Wendy K. Dobson, Professor and Director, Institute for International Business, Rotman School of Management, University of Toronto, Toronto, ON; former Canadian Associate Deputy Minister of Finance

Kenneth M. Duberstein, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Duberstein Group, Washington, DC

Robert Eckert, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mattel, Inc., El Segundo, CA

Jeffrey Epstein, President, J. Epstein & Company, Inc., New York, NY; President, N.A. Property, Inc.

Dianne Feinstein, Member (D-CA), U.S. Senate

Martin S. Feldstein, George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; President and Chief Executive Officer, National Bureau of Economic Research; former U.S.Chairman, President’s Council of Economic Advisors

Roger W. Ferguson, Jr., Vice Chairman, Board of Governors, Federal Reserve System, Washington, DC

Stanley Fischer, Governor of the Bank of Israel, Jerusalem; former President, Citigroup International and Vice Chairman, Citgroup, New York, NY; former First Deputy Managing Director, International Monetary Fund

Richard W. Fisher, President and Chief Executive Officer, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Dallas, TX; former U.S. Deputy Trade Representative

*Thomas S. Foley, Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, Washington, DC; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives; North American Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Michael B.G. Froman, Managing Director, Citigroup Alternative Investments, Citigroup Inc., New York, NY

Francis Fukuyama, Bernard L. Schwartz Professor International Political Economy, Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, Washington, DC

Dionisio Garza Medina, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, ALFA, Garza Garcia, NL

Richard A. Gephardt, former Member (D-MO), U.S. House of Representatives

David Gergen, Professor of Public Service, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; Editor-at-Large, U.S. News and World Report

Peter C. Godsoe, Chairman of Fairmont Hotels & Resorts; Retired Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Scotiabank, Toronto, ON

*Allan E. Gotlieb, Senior Advisor, Stikeman Elliott, Toronto, ON; Chairman, Sotheby’s, Canada; former Canadian Ambassador to the United States; North American Deputy Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Donald E. Graham, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, The Washington Post Company, Washington, DC

Jeffrey W. Greenberg, Private Investor, New York, NY; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Marsh & McLennan Companies

Maurice R. Greenberg, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, C. V. Starr & Company, New York; former Chairman, American International Group, Inc.

Richard N. Haass, President, Council on Foreign Relations, New York, NY; former Director, Policy Planning, U. S. Department of State; former Director of Foreign Policy Studies, The Brookings Institution

John J. Hamre, President, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller)

William A. Haseltine, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Haseltine Associates, Washington, DC; President, William A. Haseltine Foundation for Medical Sciences and the Arts; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Human Genome Sciences, Inc., Rockville, MD

Charles B. Heck, Senior Adviser and former North American Director, Trilateral Commission, New Canaan, CT

*Carla A. Hills, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hills & Company, International Consultants, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative; former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

Richard Holbrooke, Vice Chairman, Perseus LLC, New York, NY; Counselor, Council on Foreign Relations; former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations; former Vice Chairman of Credit Suisse First Boston Corporation; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Canadian Affairs; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs; and former U.S. Ambassador to Germany

Karen Elliott House, Senior Vice President, Dow Jones & Company, and Publisher, The Wall Street Journal, New York, NY

Alejandro Junco de la Vega, President and Director, Grupo Reforma, Monterrery, NL

Robert Kagan, Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Washington, DC

Arnold Kanter, Principal and Founding Member, The Scowcroft Group, Washington, DC; former U.S. Under Secretary of State

Charles R. Kaye, Co-President, Warburg Pincus LLC, New York, NY
Henry A. Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc., New York, NY; former U.S. Secretary of State; former U.S. Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs

Michael Klein, Chief Executive Officer, Global Banking, Citigroup Inc.; Vice Chairman, Citibank International PLC; New York, NY

Steven E. Koonin, Chief Scientist, BP, London, UK

Enrique Krauze, General Director, Editorial Clio Libros y Videos, S.A. de C.V., Mexico City, DF

Robert Lane, Chief Executive Officer, Deere & Co., Moline, IL

Jim Leach, Member (R-IA), U.S. House of Representatives

Gerald M. Levin, Chief Executive Officer Emeritus, AOL Time Warner, Inc., New York, NY

Winston Lord, Co-Chairman of Overseeers and former Co-Chairman of the Board, International Rescue Committee, New York, NY; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs; former U.S. Ambassador to China

E. Peter Lougheed, Senior Partner, Bennett Jones, Barristers & Solicitors, Calgary, AB; former Premier of Alberta

*Roy MacLaren, former Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom; former Canadian Minister of International Trade; Toronto, ON

John A. MacNaughton, former President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, Toronto, ON


Antonio Madero, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, San Luis Corporacion, S.A. de C.V., Mexico City, DF

*Sir Deryck C. Maughan, Managing Director and Chairman, KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., New York, NY; former Vice Chairman, Citigroup

Jay Mazur, President Emeritus, UNITE (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees); Vice Chairman, Amalgamated Bank of New York; and President, ILGWU's 21st Century Heritage Foundation, New York, NY

Hugh L. McColl, Jr., Chairman, McColl Brothers Lockwood, Charlotte, NC; former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Bank of America Corporation

Marc H. Morial, President and Chief Executive Officer, National Urban League, New York, NY; former Mayor, New Orleans, LA

Anne M. Mulcahy, Chairman and CEO, Xerox Corporation, Stamford, CT
*Indra K. Nooyi, President and Chief Financial Officer, PepsiCo, Inc., Purchase, NY

*Joseph S. Nye, Jr., Distinguished Service Professor at Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs
David J. O'Reilly, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Chevron Corporation, San Ramon, CA

Richard N. Perle, Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute, Washington, DC; member and former Chairman, Defense Policy Board, U.S. Department of Defense; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy

Thomas R. Pickering, Senior Vice President, International Relations, The Boeing Company, Arlington, VA; former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs; former U.S. Ambassador to the Russian Federation, India, Israel, El Salvador, Nigeria, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and the United Nations

Joseph W. Ralston, USAF (Ret)., Vice Chairman, The Cohen Group, Washington, DC; former Commander, U.S. European Command, and Supreme Allied Commander NATO; former Vice Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, U.S. Department of Defense

Charles B. Rangel, Member (D-NY), U.S. House of Representatives

Susan Rice, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs, National Security Council

Hartley Richardson, President and Chief Executive Officer, James Richardson & Sons, Ltd., Winnipeg, MB

Joseph E. Robert, Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Office, J.E. Robert Companies, McLean, VA

John D. Rockefeller IV, Member (D-WV), U.S. Senate

Kenneth Rogoff, Professor of Economics and Director, Center for International Development, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Chief Economist and Director, Research Department, International Monetary Fund, Washington, DC

Charles Rose, Host of the Charlie Rose Show and Charlie Rose Special Edition, PBS, New York, NY

David M. Rubenstein, Co-founder and Managing Director, The Carlyle Group, Washington, DC

Luis Rubio, President, Center of Research for Development (CIDAC), Mexico City, DF

Jaime Serra, Chairman, SAI Consulting, Mexico City, DF; former Mexican Minister of Trade and Industry

Dinakar Singh, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, TPG-Axon Capital, New York, NY; former Cohead, Principal Strategies Department, Goldman Sachs

Anne-Marie Slaughter, Dean, Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ

Gordon Smith, Director, Centre for Global Studies, University of Victoria, Victoria, BC; Chairman, Board of Governors, International Development Research Centre; former Canadian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs and Personal Representative of the Prime Minister to the Economic Summit

Donald R. Sobey, Chairman Emeritus, Empire Company Ltd., Halifax, NS

Ronald D. Southern, Chairman, ATCO Group, Calgary, AB

James B. Steinberg, Dean, LBJ School of Public Affairs, University of Texas, Austin, TX; former Vice President and Director of the Foreign Policy Studies Program, The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor

Jessica Stern, Lecturer in Public Policy, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Barbara Stymiest, Chief Operating Officer, RBC Financial Group, Toronto, ON

Lawrence H. Summers, President, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury

John J. Sweeney, President, AFL-CIO, Washington, DC

Strobe Talbott, President, The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State

Luis Tellez, Managing Director, The Carlyle Group, Mexico City, DF; former Executive Vice President, Sociedad de Fomento Industrial (DESC); former Mexican Minister of Energy

George J. Tenet, Distinguished Professor, Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University, Washington, DC; former U.S. Director of Central Intelligence

John Thain, Chief Executive Officer, New York Stock Exchange, Inc.; former President and Co-Chief Operating Officer, Goldman Sachs & Co., New York, NY

G. Richard Thoman, Managing Partner, Corporate Perspectives and Adjunct Professor, Columbia University, New York, NY; formerly President and CEO, Xerox Corporation; formerly CFO and Nº 2 officer, IBM Corporation

*Paul A. Volcker, former Chairman, Wolfensohn & Co., Inc., New York; Frederick H. Schultz Professor Emeritus, International Economic Policy, Princeton University; former Chairman, Board of Governors, U.S. Federal Reserve System; Honorary North American Chairman and former North American Chairman, Trilateral Commission

William H. Webster, Senior Partner, Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP, Washington, DC; former U.S. Director of Central Intelligence; former Director, U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation; former Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit

Fareed Zakaria, Editor, Newsweek International, New York, NY

*Lorenzo H. Zambrano, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, CEMEX, Monterrey, NL; North American Deputy Chairman, Trilateral Commission

Ernesto Zedillo, Director, Yale Center for the Study of Globalization, Yale University, New Haven, CT; former President of Mexico

Mortimer B. Zuckerman, Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, U.S. News & World Report, New York, NY

Robert S. McNamara, Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission, Washington, DC; former President, World Bank; former U.S. Secretary of Defense; former President, Ford Motor Company.

David Rockefeller, Founder, Honorary Chairman, and Lifetime Trustee, Trilateral Commission, New York, NY


Former Members In Public Service:

Rona Ambrose, Canadian Minister of the Environment

Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States

Paula J. Dobriansky, U.S. Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs

Bill Graham, Leader of the Opposition, Canadian House of Commons

Paul Wolfowitz, President, World Bank

Robert B. Zoellick, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State

Nothing used to make me stop listening to a conversation faster than mention of Revelations, Nostradamus, or the New World Order. I considered conspiracy theories for Kooks. After less than a year of being part of this forum, I've learned enough to not discount anything. Some of the names on that list!!!?? GOOD GRIEF!!

There is even a newspaper columnist on the list. You have to know that the media is complicit in this. This would be a huge news story if it could find it's way to the general public.

Andy, I feel the same way. It's taken me a long time to come to the point where I'm starting to believe that this is really going on. I always thought that the notion of a NAU was just to fantasical, but too many people are now saying the same thing, including Tom Tancredo. And, we've all observed the many contradications in the way in which our government as been working in recent years. Nothing adds up or makes any sense, like the paranoia about terrorism but the resistance to do everything possible to close our borders. And, all decisions that are made now are based on what is good for the corporations, not people, not citizens. I think we know this is happening, we just don't want to believe it.....it's just too sickening to think about.

Thanks for the list.

My philosophy about conspiracy theories - ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. If someone told you 20 years ago that men were going to highjack some planes and take down the WTC, I think most would react by calling it a nutty conspiracy theory, right?

As long as there are people in power, there will always be the temptation to acquire more power and more wealth at the expense of the public at large.

I have a brother in law who is so true blue American, his mind can't even wrap around the possibility, that our own governement could conspire against us. What I try to explain to him is that America - The true heart and soul of this country and all that it stands for - is the PEOPLE, those who have sacrificed their lives for our freedom and liberty, those who get up to go to work everyday to support their families, those who volunteer their time to help others. America is NOT any particular political machine that happens to be in the Whitehouse at the time.

If other governments could be corrupt and go against their own citizens, why should our own be any different?

It's just so important - particularly in this day and age - to keep an open mind about things. Keep an open mind and always verify.

Keep an open mind and always verify.

I agree! That's why I have been trying to cross-reference information and listen to opinions from different sources in an effort to figure out what does or does not add up.