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    National Council for a New America, same old Amnesty

    National Council for a New America, same old GOP, same old Amnesty

    On Thursday, a group of putatively moderate Republicans will announce a new effort called "National Council for a New America". While they claim that they're non-partisan, it's clearly a GOP effort. And, the list of those involved that CNN has obtained (link) includes several supporters of comprehensive immigration reform. It's not going out too far on a limb to assume that they'll support amnesty, even if they call it "reform" or pretend that they want to secure the border first.

    Their "National Panel Of Experts" will include John McCain, Jeb Bush, and Mitt Romney. The first two are obviously strong amnesty supporters; the last came out for it recently. Others on the panel include Haley Barbour and Bobby Jindal; their positions aren't known.

    Others signing on include John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell, Lamar Alexander, and two who had their own amnesty plans: Mike Pence and Jon Kyl.

    Per Ben Smith, Sarah Palin was invited and hasn't replied yet; Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele were ruled out due to heading a 527 and a party respectively.

    UPDATE: The full text of the letter they sent out is below. Other signatories are Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt, John Cornyn (the other half of the Cornyn-Kyl amnesty), and John Thune.

    Rather than supporting amnesty, they've decided not to say anything about immigration but instead their initial focus will be on the economy, healthcare, education, energy, and national security. The problem is that by not mentioning immigration they're undercutting whatever argument they might have about some of those. For instance, several million of the 47 million U.S. residents who don't have health insurance are foreign citizens, with many or most of those being illegal aliens. What would they do about that? If they don't have a plan in regards to that issue, then have they really thought things through? Note that Hillary's healthcare "expert" Laurie Rubiner had no plan and compare this CAP proposal. And, of course, massive illegal immigration has a severe impact on education, especially in California where billions have been spent on building schools for illegal aliens or their children. And, while illegal immigration does contribute to national income, it also has a very large financial cost and a extremely dangerous non-financial costs. Home lending to illegal aliens may have played a role in at least the mortgage meltdown. And, the issue of border, port, and port of entry security is closely tied to national security. That's about the only area where the NCNA might be tough, or at least pretend to be tough.

    If the NCNA wants to be more intellectually honest than CAP, they're going to have to deal with this issue sooner or later. There's a miniscule chance that they'll support what the base wants and will oppose amnesty. Much, much more likely they'll revert to form and just dishonestly try to sell the GOP base something that they clearly don't want.

    Here's the full text of their letter:

    Dear Friends,

    The United States is the greatest country in the world, a beacon of hope, strength, and prosperity that Democracies worldwide seek to emulate. Our nation and its people have persevered through past challenges with strength derived from our common belief in freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility. Like every American, we look to the future with optimism for the great possibilities of tomorrow. Although today we face some of the toughest times in recent history, together, like so many generations before, we march forward with a vision for an even brighter future for our children.

    Today, we are launching the National Council for a New America (NCNA), a caucus of Congressional leaders gathering the expertise of national leaders and doers. We hope that will form the foundation of a concerted, policy-based forum to listen to, partner with, and empower the American people with ideas and solutions that speak directly to the needs of our great nation. This forum will engage in a conversation with America that seeks to remove ideological filters, addresses the realities we are confronting, and speaks to the challenges our citizens are facing.

    The NCNA will bring together citizens from across the country to begin a dialogue with the American people through a series of forums, town halls, and an online effort that will engage people in a discussion to meet our common challenges and build a stronger country through common-sense ideas. The NCNA will be a dynamic, forward-looking organization that will amplify the common-sense and wisdom of our fellow citizens through a grassroots dialogue with Republican leaders.

    However, this is not a Republican-only forum. While we will be guided by our principles of freedom and security, we will seek to include more than just our ideas. This forum will include a wide open policy debate that every American can feel free to participate in. We do this not just to offer an alternative point of view or to be disagreeable. Instead, we want to ask the American people what their hopes and dreams are. Since January, the President and the Democratic Majority in Congress have — rightfully so — put forward their plan for the future, now we must listen, learn and lead through an honest, open conversation with the American people that will result in building policy proposals that will yield the best results for our nation’s long-term success.

    Ultimately, however, we are only launching this effort. The real drivers will have to be the American people. We invite Americans from all walks of life to speak with us as we begin anew rebuilding and reenergizing our nation. We do not pretend to have all the answers nor do we expect the NCNA to remain a static forum. Instead, this is going to be a living, breathing, expanding group that engages Americans from all walks of life. We hope to engage other national leaders, grassroots activists and citizens and invite them to work with us to solve problems with common-sense conservative solutions.

    A Blueprint for our Conversation with America

    Economy: Real Solutions for Economic Recovery

    As the country battles through the worst economic crisis in a generation, we must remain focused on the foundations and institutions that have made us the most prosperous people in the world and the ideas that create jobs and grow our economy. At the same time, we must learn from the mistakes that led to the current crisis and to prevent similar situations from ever occurring again.

    Healthcare: Building a 21st Century, Patient-Centered System

    No one doubts that our nation’s health care system is in need of reform, but we must strike the right balance that builds on what works and fixes what is broken. All Americans deserve access to high-quality, affordable care. But such coverage cannot come at the expense of their ability to choose their own doctor and have access to the right care, at the right time, in the right setting without waiting in line while sick. In addition, we must continue to focus on the innovation and science that have resulted in thousands of treatments and cures for life-threatening or debilitating diseases while allowing America to remain the leader in research and development worldwide.

    Education: Preparing Our Children to Succeed

    A high-quality education should not be dependent upon a parent’s income or address. All of America’s children deserve an education that will prepare them for the opportunities and the challenges that await them in the global economy. Yet today, thousands of American children, especially in our inner cities, receive a substandard education or find post-secondary education unaffordable. We must return power from Washington to parents and well-paid teachers who know what’s best for our children.

    Energy: Solutions for Energy Independence

    American families and businesses cannot afford an energy policy where we are held hostage by foreign oil cartels and dictators. As a nation, we can no longer send billions of dollars overseas each year, often to countries that help fund our enemies. We must implement a comprehensive energy policy that includes traditional fuels, alternative energy, and conservation resulting in affordable, reliable domestic energy. Such a policy will stabilize costs for families and businesses while at the same time creating much-needed jobs here at home.

    National Security: Defending American Liberty and Freedom

    The threats posed to our nation are more varied and evolving more than perhaps at any other time in our history. Modern communications, technology and the proliferation of weapons of all types have empowered our enemies and those who support them. Our national security policy must reflect these realities while allowing us to maintain technological superiority, support the most well-trained and well-equipped military in the world and have the intelligence capabilities to uncover and prevent attacks before they occur.

    Our National Panel of Experts:

    Governor Haley Barbour
    Governor Jeb Bush
    Governor Bobby Jindal
    Senator John McCain
    Governor Mitt Romney

    These are not the only issue areas where we will engage America, but they form a starting point in our revitalization effort. In the coming months, the NCNA will focus our attention outside of Washington where American families are living and raising their children, working toward the promise of a better tomorrow, and where common-sense ideals are valued over pundits and the political winds. We know America’s best days are ahead, but we need to work hard to ensure that promise. We also know that the American people want choices and alternatives — that there is no one right solution for what America and its people need. This is what our country was founded on, this is what we stand for, this is what we hope the National Council for a New America will provide and we ask our fellow citizens to join with us.

    Sincerely,

    John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

    Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Cornyn, John Thune

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    It's a shame they don't want to talk about immigration because that's what's most important to me. They are just afraid of losing votes for their candidate. Why don't they take a stand - say NO AMNESTY - enforce the laws - secure the borders - no more anchor babies and see what happens? They might just have a pleasant surprise and have support for a change.

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    I am sick. the people I thought would agree with me on a number if issues makes me rethinking support for many of these members. I don't agree with the immigration or energy. I thought that maybe Eric Cantor or Bobb Jindell could be someone I support, but after this - not. Isn't there a decent Republican out there beside Ron Paul. No comprehensive ( i hate that word) immigration reform and we need to drill. They are right, we don't need to send our money overseas for energy. We can drill right here at home. Alternative energies, as I have come to understand, will take years to develop for use. We also need to get our electricity dispersed in a way in which we will not have our country shut down incase of an emergency. I thought we were smarter than that. Of course I don't know how to do it, but I'm sure someone has an idea. So here again, we have a group of Republicans that still don't get it. They are going to waste prescious time. When will someone come along that we can believe in?

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    What Mitt Romney said he supports is called "Report to Self Deport" which turns the illegal aliens into temporary guest workers. It is part of a pragmatic solution and the details which are unclear are for how many years and how long before they can reapply
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    John McCain, Lindsay Graham, Mitt Romney, and anyone named BUSH needs to get the hell out of the way and to the back rows of the GOP forevermore!

    These are the assholes that have screwed up America and the GOP.

    The fact they are trying to reassert themselves bodes ill for the future survival of the GOP.

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    there is a commercial for this new group on youtube
    im listening to pat gray discuss it on his show from this morning

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2E2aEfs-wQ

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    Discouraged wrote:

    Why don't they take a stand - say NO AMNESTY - enforce the laws - secure the borders - no more anchor babies and see what happens?
    Could be that they disagree on the issue.

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    I listened to them the other day. Amnesty all the way couched in different terms. Jeb Bush has no idea, no idea, how illegal immigration has affected people and their lives and their communities where it previously never was, or to the extent that it was not noticed. He is from an area greatly impacted by citizens south of the border and he is clueless to the harms and to the impact of what illegal immigration has done. He seems hard toward anyone who rejects his open border policy.

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    Others on the panel include Haley Barbour and Bobby Jindal; their positions aren't known.
    Representative Bobby Jindal's Record On Immigration Reform And Illegal Aliens

    Representative Bobby Jindal is a Republican currently serving District 1 in Louisiana, which includes Metairie, Hammond and Slidell and has served in the House from 2005-Present.

    Representative Bobby Jindal has had an outstanding record when it comes to border security. There are currently at least 12 million (with estimates reaching as high as 30 million) illegal aliens in this country. The first line of defense is controlling our porous borders. Representative Bobby Jindal clearly wants to secure our borders and the votes show that.

    After an illegal alien has entered our country the next line of defense is interior enforcement. Currently employers are not required to verify that an applicant or employee is legally allowed to work in this country. In addition, local law enforcement at the state and local level have had their hands tied when dealing with illegal aliens by not even allowing them to inquire about arrestees' citizenship status. Representative Bobby Jindal has worked hard to allow state and local law enforcement to help in reducing illegal immigration and to put in place workplace verification systems allowing employers to quickly verify the legal working status of their employees.

    If an illegal alien avoids being picked up, or remains here after receiving deportation orders, the next thing they look for are incentives, rewards and benefits. Amnesty is the largest of these rewards and gives illegal aliens a path to citizenship or makes them instantly legal. Representative Bobby Jindal does not approve of amnesty for illegal aliens and has worked against it.

    Representative Bobby Jindal has voted against giving illegal aliens further rewards and other incentives to come such as in-state tuition, educational benefits, welfare and health care services.

    Once here, many illegal aliens have what is known as an "anchor baby". This is caused by a misinterpretation of our 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which calls for all born on American soil to be given US Citizenship. Unfortunately this Amendment has been misinterpreted and was initially put in place to ensure that freed slaves were citizens and has been twisted and misused to include even the children of foreigners who cross illegally into this country and have a child. Once born this new "citizen" allows the parent to gain benefits at the expense of the taxpayers. Representative Bobby Jindal has not yet had a chance to vote on anchor babies and the increased illegal population that they support through taxpayer dollars.

    On the issue of legal immigration Representative Bobby Jindal has stood opposed to the visa lottery. Each year 50,000 names are chosen to come to the US legally without regards to their needs, intentions, education level or whether they would benefit the United States. "Winning the lottery" takes on a whole new meaning when it comes to immigration. Once in the country these new immigrants can apply for taxpayer funded services.

    Once an immigrant is legally here they can send home to bring in more adults from their family such as parents, siblings and adult children. That legal immigrant can then bring in more family members directly related to them. This is called chain migration and Representative Bobby Jindal hasn't voted on it yet. Chain migration has exponential growth and is the primary cause of the 4-fold increase in immigration to this country since 1960.

    A high majority of refugee and asylum seekers to this country are not by international definition in need of relocation. This program is ripe with fraud and Representative Bobby Jindal hasn't had a chance to vote on this yet.

    Representative Bobby Jindal has voted neutral regarding increases in permanent and temporary foreign work visas such as the H1-B. Sometimes foreign workers are desirable in fields where there is a lack of American workers to fill the positions. All too often these work visa programs are abused by employers and used to get lower cost workers into this country rather than hiring American workers. For the foreign worker it is common to see them not return to their home country and remain here on an expired visa.

    Overall, Representative Bobby Jindal has an unknown record when it comes to immigration reform.

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    Jindal is now Govenor.

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    Palin To Be Part of National Council

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will be part of the National Council for a New America, an attempt by leaders in Congress and potential 2012 presidential candidates to rebrand the struggling party.

    "I am pleased to announce that Governor Palin has joined the National Council for a New America's panel of experts," said House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (Va.) today. "When NCNA was announced last week, we spoke about a dynamic organization that worked to constantly bring in new people and innovative ideas."

    Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), who shared the national ticket with Palin, had hinted at Palin's involvement during a conference call last Thursday announcing the National Council's formation.

    But, her office had been largely silent in the intervening days and Cantor's office made clear only that she had been invited to join not that she had accepted.

    Palin's involvement in the group will help rebut the idea that the National Council is an organ of the establishment wing of the party set up to keep the Palins and Gov. Mark Sanford's (S.C.) -- both of whom are more hardline conservatives -- from taking over control of the party.

    How much or how little she does for the organization will be telling. In recent weeks Palin has cut many of her ties to Washington (or had them cut for her) and insisted that she is focused on Alaska.

    Of course, if she wants to be in the mix for president in 2012, she knows she must play on the national stage -- through efforts like the National Council and other ventures.

    It's a difficult balancing act. And, to date, Palin has struggled to find equilibrium.


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