Thread: New evidence shows Hillary a mastermind behind Gunwalker

Breaking: new evidence shows Hillary a mastermind behind Gunwalker

Anthony Martin, Conservative Examiner
October 10, 2011

Last week it was reported that the State Department and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were deeply involved in the scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious, or Project Gunwalker. Today, however, new evidence has surfaced indicating that not only was Hillary deeply involved in the scandal but was one of the masterminds behind it.

According to investigative citizen journalist Mike Vanderboegh, sources close to the development of the Gunwalker scheme state that early on, Hillary and her trusted associated at State, Andrew J. Shapiro, devised at least part of the framework of what would later become Operation Fast and Furious. It was Shapiro who first described the details of the proposed scheme early in 2009 just after the Obama Administration took office.

Vanderboegh relates the following:

My sources say that as Hillary's trusted subordinate, it was Shapiro who first described to the Secretary of State the details of what has become the Gunwalker Scandal.

The precise extent to which Hillary Clinton's knowledge of, and responsibility for, the Gunwalker Plot, lies within the memories of these two men, Shapiro and Steinberg, sources say.

The sources also express dismay that the Issa committee is apparently restricting itself to the Department of Justice and not venturing further afield. The House Foreign Affairs Committee, they say, needs to summon these two men and their subordinates -- especially at the Mexico Desk at State -- and question them under oath as to what Hillary Clinton knew about the origins of the Gunwalker Scandal and when she knew it.

There is one other thing those sources agree upon. The CIA, they say, knows "everything" about the "Mexican hat dance" that became the Gunwalker Scandal.

The 'Steinberg' mentioned in the quote above is Hillary Clinton's former Deputy Secretary of State, who was appointed directly by Barack Obama and was considered from the start to be an 'Obama man' whose objective was to carry out the wishes of the President in the State Department.

Hillary had said of Steinberg,

[quote] Clinton said Steinberg had been a “fixtureâ€

Thus, from the beginning the scheme was to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico in order to be in a strengthened position to call for gun bans and strict gun control at a time when it was politically unpopular. Further, the scheme would involve a made-up statistic, out of thin air--90%--which then had to be proved by using civilian gun retailers along the southern border as unsuspecting pawns to walk U.S. guns into Mexico by ATF agents, straw purchasers, and others with connections to Mexican drug cartels.

Originally Posted by working4change

Thus, from the beginning the scheme was to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico in order to be in a strengthened position to call for gun bans and strict gun control at a time when it was politically unpopular.

Further, the scheme would involve a made-up statistic, out of thin air--90%--which then had to be proved by using civilian gun retailers along the southern border as unsuspecting pawns to walk U.S. guns into Mexico by ATF agents, straw purchasers, and others with connections to Mexican drug cartels.

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The little fish Eric Holder would be great bait to catch much larger fishes.

What a great victory for America if these traitors were finally caught and hauled in.

quote(Thus, from the beginning the scheme was to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico in order to be in a strengthened position to call for gun bans and strict gun control at a time when it was politically unpopular. )quote

Bingo,I've long said it was a political hate of the second amendment.

Holder and Obama think it's so smart to crow about their recent arrest of men plotting the assassination of the Ambassador to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately for them, the men were trying to hire cartel members from Mexico to carry out the plan. Can you imagine the international uproar if an Ambassador to the U.S. were to be killed using guns from Fast and Furious? Way to go Obama, Holder . . . an now we learn Hillary was involved.

It's been well known since day one that this administration will seek ways to curtail second amendment rights. If H. Clinton is involved, it will come as no surprise since she is also heavily involved with pushing the U.N. small arms treaty!

Originally Posted by ReggieMay

Holder and Obama think it's so smart to crow about their recent arrest of men plotting the assassination of the Ambassador to the U.S. from Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately for them, the men were trying to hire cartel members from Mexico to carry out the plan. Can you imagine the international uproar if an Ambassador to the U.S. were to be killed using guns from Fast and Furious? Way to go Obama, Holder . . . an now we learn Hillary was involved.

BINGO! In my dreams would this be the downfall of Obozo, Holder and Billary!!!

No surprise here. Both of the Clintons have worked to force the U.S. to global government. Our country would be better off, in my opinion, if they would both just go away.

The Clintons made a fortune with Tata and Cisco and the oputsourcing of our jobs to India.

This is a long and very interesting read.

This is a long read, but very intersting tidbits throughout the article. The Clinton adminstration had a huge military sales campaign that financed many social programs.
Excerpts.

A report published by the Federation of American Scientists revealed that between 1984-1993 Mexico obtained 10 times more U.S. arms than it accumulated between l950-1983.4 U.S. military aid provided to Mexico during the period 1982-1990 included F-5 aircraft, Bell 212 helicopters, C-130 transport planes and other aircraft, excess jeeps and light trucks, various communications equipment, and spare parts for U.S.-origin vehicles, planes and naval craft. In addition, Mexico leased UH-1H helicopters.5 And the U.S. sold or licensed $750 million worth of military equipment to Mexico’s various security forces between l982-l992, according to researcher Peter Lumsdaine with the Resource Center for Nonviolence in Santa Cruz, California.

EXPANSION OF AID UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
From 1988-1992 the U.S. exported over $214 million in military equipment to Mexico’s army and police, some 16 times more than Mexico’s second place arms supplier, France.6 But it hasn’t just been military assistance that has defined the new relationship between the U.S. and Mexico. Under U.S. President Bush, then-CIA director William Webster warned in 1989 of increasing unrest and coup plotting in Latin American countries, and declared that in a post-Cold War era a bipartisan policy was necessary to support covert actions, including election support of friendly candidates, in the region. He particularly identified Mexico as an object of "far more attention than it has been in the past."7

A U.S. Department of Defense report for fiscal year 1992 declared that the U.S. wanted from Mexico a "secure, stable, and friendly" neighbor who would look increasingly to the United States for directions and dependency relating to military and international policies. This included an "apolitical" military.8 An earlier DOD report described the intention of U.S. military programs to Mexico as "expanding U.S. influence in the Mexican military."9

An October 1989, U.S. State Department Bulletin identified Mexico’s then (pre-NAFTA) strategic interests to the U.S.: a 2,000-mile common border that is the primary entry point for drugs coming to feed the U.S. demand, and the fact that Mexico is the second most important source of strategic raw materials, especially petroleum, strontium, fluorspa, and antimony.

Prior to the critical date, January 1, 1994 (when NAFTA became effective and the Zapatista uprising occurred), modernization of Mexico’s security forces was becoming ever more obvious. In the early 1990s the U.S. began supplying a number of helicopters, both to the Mexican Attorney General’s office which has had jurisdiction over the drug war, and to the Mexican armed forces. A 1994 Mexican Attorney General report identified an aerial fleet that included a variety of 47 U.S.-made Bell helicopters and 13 Cessna observation planes. A number of Mexican mechanics were authorized to be trained in the U.S. to maintain the new helicopters. In addition, the Mexican armed forces by early 1994 possessed 48 helicopters, at least 20 of which were U.S. Bell helicopters, and six sophisticated Blackhawk transports, as well as a number of smaller observation planes.10 Thus, by early 1994, Mexico had at least 95 helicopters.

Assistance in 1993 included millions of dollars worth of U.S. Huey and Bell helicopters along with C-130 Hercules transport planes which were used against the Zapatistas during the January 1994 uprising.11

A La Jornada article (Aug. 21, 1995) printed a chronological list of military equipment and sophisticated armaments acquired by the Mexican government from 1988-1994. The list included over 7,000 bulletproof U.S. Hummer armored troop transport vehicles, 78 helicopters, 78 fixed-wing planes, 1,615 machine guns, nearly 3,300 flame throwers, 360,000 grenades, and 266 electric prods. The latter have been traditionally used as part of interrogations/torture sessions by repressive regimes. The list included 1,500 other types of military vehicles, 1,000 parachutes, and hundreds of thousands of articles of field equipment such as combat rations, helmets, flack vests, canteens, night vision equipment, etc.

The Slippery Slope: U.S. Military Moves Into Mexico
April 1, 1998
http://www.brianwillson.com/the-slipper ... to-mexico/

Hillary's enemies list now includes Gunwalker reportersAdd Anthony Martin, Conservative Examiner
October 8, 2011 -


Nixon was not the only one with an 'enemies list.' It is well-documented that Bill Clinton had such a list. So did George W. Bush. And, by extension, due to her marriage to the former President, Hillary Clinton has such a list. And apparently the reporters who have exposed her involvement in the Gunwalker scandal are on it. One reporter in particular was informed today by sources inside the State Department that he is now on that list.

So far no one in the mainstream media has reported the bombshell information revealed over the past 2 days by Mike Vanderboegh that indicates Hillary was in the loop on the illegal scheme from Day One. Thus, the mainstream media has thus far avoided Hillary's ire.

This is no surprise. It took the media several months to begin to report the story of 'Operation Fast and Furious,' also known Project Gunwalker, in spite of the fact that this writer, Kurt Hofmann, David Codrea, and Mike Vanderboegh had been writing stories about it since December of 2010--Vanderboegh and Codrea being the first.

The mainstream media is slow to report anything negative about this administration. It is unknown how long it will take them to get on the trail that leads to Hillary. And doing so comes with a heavy price to pay. Ask Sharyl Attkisson at CBS News, who revealed to several high-profile reporters last week that she had been verbally abused by the White House staff, including yelling and choice expletives, for her tenacious and thorough reporting of the Gunwalker scandal.

Nonetheless, the story of Hillary Clinton's deep involvement in Gunwalker is out, and the same sources that led to the discovery of the DOJ-ATF illegal scheme to deliberately place American guns into the hands of Mexican criminals have now directly implicated Hillary in the scandal, as reported yesterday here and here.

At every single juncture as this story has unfolded, the sources have been proved to be reliable and accurate.

Thus, Hillary Clinton's ire. A source told Mike Vanderboegh that she is livid over the relevations concerning her involvement, so much so that she personally read Vanderboegh's 2 articles on the State Department and the Secretary of State in the Gunwalker scheme.

And she is not happy, to say the least.

Vanderboegh relates his conversation with an insider who has direct knowledge of the reaction of the State Department and Hillary Clinton to their being implicated in the scandal, part of which is provided here:

A source familiar with the inner workings of the command deck at Foggy Bottom reports that my "In at the beginning" series (here andhere) has excited some interest in the mid-level permanent bureaucracy there and that links have been forwarded to the Secretary of State's office.

"So?" I said. "And?"

"They don't like where you're going with this."

"Outstanding," I replied.

"SECSTATE doesn't like it."

"REALLY? She reads my stuff?"

"She read your latest."

"All the shit going on all around the world and she's worried about me? I don't believe it."

"Believe it."

"And she doesn't like it?"

"She doesn't like where you're going, is what I hear. She doesn't like the attention about Fast & Furious."

"Damn. . . I HAVE arrived."

"You'll arrive on the 'kill list' if she gets pissed enough."

I laughed.

"You're fishin' in very deep waters in a very small boat, son."

"Just call me Jonah," I told him.

He didn't laugh.

Further, Vanderboegh states that the only woman in the entire world who scares him more than his ex-wife is Hillary Clinton--and with good reason. There is a rich history of allegations indicating untold woes that befall anyone who crosses her or her husband.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in ... -reporters

A lot of related info here--

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-252527.html