Thread: Now what?

Ok, I just listened to Bush on the Radio in his interviews today. And he did metion that "immigration reform" (AMNESTY) will move foward. Is this the end? Did we lose? I am sick to my stomach right now. I just called the white house and cussed Bush. I told the lady that Americans do NOT want Amnesty again for illegals. I dont know what to think or do right now. I am feeling pretty funky. I believe this could be the beginning of the end of the country we grew up in.

Now we can expect to lose more jobs to LEGAL Mexican nationals with dual citizenship to further drive down our wages, and more technical jobs to be outsourced to India, and watch as the Middle Class slowly eveporates before our eyes. This is a mess...........What kind of country will my kids inherit? NO HABLA ESPANOL.

wow, now what?

Yes, we lost this political battle. There are other poltical battles ahead, but this was our best chance to stave off or forestall massive amnesty and a continued influx of foreign invaders diluting our sovereignty, stealing our tax dollars, and plotting insurrection against us.

Having lost this political battle at the federal level, we may return to the local level to attempt action such as that being considered by towns like Farmers Branch, Texas.

There are, of course, other means than direct political action, but this is a political action site and so those means apparently may not be discussed here.

My thought, offhand, is that it's time to either get creative or to concede the battle. I'm for creativity. After all, why should we continue to battle the enemy on his home field (the political arena) where he has the decided advantage, except perhaps as a distraction tactic while moving on other fronts?

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

Yes, we lost this political battle. There are other poltical battles ahead, but this was our best chance to stave off or forestall massive amnesty and a continued influx of foreign invaders diluting our sovereignty, stealing our tax dollars, and plotting insurrection against us.

Having lost this political battle at the federal level, we may return to the local level to attempt action such as that being considered by towns like Farmers Branch, Texas.

There are, of course, other means than direct political action, but this is a political action site and so those means apparently may not be discussed here.

My thought, offhand, is that it's time to either get creative or to concede the battle. I'm for creativity. After all, why should we continue to battle the enemy on his home field (the political arena) where he has the decided advantage, except perhaps as a distraction tactic while moving on other fronts?

My point is, once they are legal our fight is over.

Originally Posted by Ronster

Ok, I just listened to Bush on the Radio in his interviews today. And he did metion that "immigration reform" (AMNESTY) will move foward. Is this the end? Did we lose? I am sick to my stomach right now. I just called the white house and cussed Bush. I told the lady that Americans do NOT want Amnesty again for illegals. I dont know what to think or do right now. I am feeling pretty funky. I believe this could be the beginning of the end of the country we grew up in.

Now we can expect to lose more jobs to LEGAL Mexican nationals with dual citizenship to further drive down our wages, and more technical jobs to be outsourced to India, and watch as the Middle Class slowly eveporates before our eyes. This is a mess...........What kind of country will my kids inherit? NO HABLA ESPANOL.

wow, now what?

Hi ronster, I feel exactly the same way you do, I'm soooo depress. I told my sons this morning, you better start learning Spanish, because other wise you won't be able to get a job. The corrupt Democrat in New Jersey is going to the Senate, he wants amnesty for all illegals because they are already here, had families here, and it is impossible to deport them, he is Cuban, so I suppose he would be listen to La raza, and Aztland. I don't know, I'm very frustrated.

Originally Posted by Ronster

Originally Posted by CrocketsGhost

Yes, we lost this political battle. There are other poltical battles ahead, but this was our best chance to stave off or forestall massive amnesty and a continued influx of foreign invaders diluting our sovereignty, stealing our tax dollars, and plotting insurrection against us.

Having lost this political battle at the federal level, we may return to the local level to attempt action such as that being considered by towns like Farmers Branch, Texas.

There are, of course, other means than direct political action, but this is a political action site and so those means apparently may not be discussed here.

My thought, offhand, is that it's time to either get creative or to concede the battle. I'm for creativity. After all, why should we continue to battle the enemy on his home field (the political arena) where he has the decided advantage, except perhaps as a distraction tactic while moving on other fronts?

My point is, once they are legal our fight is over.

No, it isn't. Because there are more and more who will want to come. We need to eventually shut the floodgates. Also, many among those who are to be "legalized" are already preaching insurrection and seeking to "return" parts of America to Mexico. Today the struggle is against foreigners on our soil. Tomorrow the struggle will be against revolutionary forces who call themselves our fellow citizens.

One thing is for certain: We will not win any of these battles unless we regain control of iur education system. Today it serves as a massive indoctrination center that villifies true patriots, teaches lies about our forefathers, perverts the intent of our founding documents, and gives power to every anti-Western and anti-Maerican sentiment in the public forum. The reason we are losing these battles is because we have been losing the battle for the hearts and minds of our own children for decades. If public school continues to fail us, then we must rise up against it and demand either home schooling and private education or else require representation in the education process as a condition of our taxation for that process.

CG- I second that. A large part of the greater battle is the children.

Please, please if you have children or grandchildren in the schools system pay very close attention to what they are being taught. I assure you it is not all what you think. Just pick up a high school history text book sometime. You will truly be amazed.

Generations of children are being lost with the indoctrination of multiculturism, diversity, etc. The only things they are being taught about this once great nation is that it is evil.

I agree too. For me this has never been exclusively about illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a symptom of a bigger problem. It has not manifested itself in a vacuum nor by accident.

With regards to public education. The communist realized that you don't need "war" to have a revolution. Control our institution is to control us. Our public schools are teaching globalism, multiculturalism and socialism.

Nowhere in the constitution I find anything about children of illegal aliens. It says that anyone born in American soil, but it also says that if children of American citizens, or legal residents are born in another countries, they are entitled to be American Citizens. So how come the immigration law is implicated in this paragrah, and not in the other paragraph where says about being born in American soil? What happens to the immigration law?


The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

What has to be stopped is people coming here to have children. That abuse has to stop. It should be unconstitutional that those people come here to abuse "us" taxpayers, we are victims, and our government is not protecting us from being victims, he is colaborating in making us victims.

My English will get worst because I'am very mad