Thread: NumbersUSA: Duncan Hunter best on immigration

Those are certainly some pluses for Hunter - and I didn't list trade as I didn't know exactly where he stood.

As I said, I would vote for him if he is nominated, but I would like to see him repudiate this, and former, administration's foreign policy of interference in other countries' affairs. I think that and this war is all part of the global movement. You can't separate them.

nntrixie wrote:

To me, his some of his other ideas are not good - such as school vouchers, same sex marriage, foreign policy, etc. They almost seem like a carbon copy of this President's ideas and this administration can't possibly be so wrong on immigration, trade, domestic policies, etc., and right on foreign policy.

Your attempt at degrading Hunter based on a broad spectrum of issues without offering details is lacking in frankness and candor. Please elaborate on Hunter's ideas on the school voucher program, same sex marriage, and foreign policy (I don't know what the etc. is you're referring too) with an explanation of why you disapprove of them. Only then can we have a real discussion on those specific issues that concern you. Personally, I think your just making a calculated statement in the hopes that it will give your own candidate of choice more credibility on the issues. If that's not the case, than please elaborate.

nntrixie wrote:

Those are certainly some pluses for Hunter - and I didn't list trade as I didn't know exactly where he stood.

Geez, were you been? We've been all over Hunter's position on trade here on the ALIPAC forums.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

I think that and this war is all part of the global movement. You can't separate them.

How do you account for the fact that the Soros globalists Democrats have no interest in pursuing any actions in the Middle East. Wouldn't globalists all have the same goals?

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

We're from all different backgrounds and persuasions here. I myself spent forty years voting Democrat. Don't throw out the conservative baby with the bathwater because Bush is sitting in it. Anyone that believes that the sanctioned illegal invasion symptom of globalism can be stopped in a liberal, progressive, socialist welfare state needs to keep learning on this issue.

100% correct.. even Milton Friedman, a Free Trade & Open Border Economist, says those cannot and must not happen at the same time as a welfare state. This is where Paul has positives.

Oh, gee!! I seem to have touched a nerve.

This president being the globalist he is, would not, ever, be invading IRaq if it didn't further the globalist agenda.

How can you look at what this administration has done to destroy the sovereignty of this country and not believe the war in Iraq - which has so devastated us financially, is not part of the agenda?

As for school vouchers, I am against them. They would do nothing to make education in America better - just better for a few. We need to do something about public education - make it work - not simply pay some to find other alternatives and leave others in the cesspool.

Just as a thought, but if school vouchers were in place right now, I think it is possible the Catholic schools would be bursting with children of illegals going to their schools with school vouchers.

I don't think who a person marries should be something the federal government should be expending it's time and money deciding.

Not sure what his 'strong supporter of Israel' means exactly. I sat in Church for all my young life hearing how we had to support Israel and 'the Children of God' - but I think it might be time to rethink exactly what our support should be.

The Fair TAx seems like just another convoluted government plan. The "prebates' are just silly. So I disagree with him on that. If you want a sales tax, have a sales tax and make certain things exempt - period. Anything else is going to result in the same insanity we have with the IRS.

My post was not an insult or a hit on Hunter. Someone asked why more people didn't support him - and I was just giving my reasons that he is not my Number One choice. That might be it for others also.

As for his trade, I simply did not recall - so I did not list that. I try very hard to only comment on things I know. Since I was listing things that I disagree with - and didn't know about trade specifically - I didn't list it.

No need to try to read anything into the post that isn't there.

Where did you ever hear that Duncan Hunter supported same sex marriage?? That's BS. This man has fantastic conservative principles and he hasn't made any amazing revelations of late. He's no water carrier for George Bush. Go to his website and you'll learn much more about him. I wish many more would, he'd be a shoo in. www.gohunter08.com

Here's his stance; (sorry it's long but this will set the record straight)
Values Issues

Life
Right to Life Amendment
I would amend the U.S. Constitution and provide blanket protection to all unborn children from the moment of conception by prohibiting any state or federal law that denies the personhood of the unborn. Likewise, I have also introduced the Right to Life Act, which would legally define “personhoodâ€

Originally Posted by loservillelabor

How do you account for the fact that the Soros globalists Democrats have no interest in pursuing any actions in the Middle East. Wouldn't globalists all have the same goals?

That's a good point. The war is not fundamental to the illegal immigration debate. You can support the war and be for border security. You can oppose the war and be for border security. I take nothing from those who are here and support the war. I disagree with them, but they have nothing but pure intentions of patriotism. I oppose the war, and obviously am not a leftist, hippie, anti-American. Pat Buchanan opposes the war for God's sake.

I think people who believe that the war and illegal immigration go together like PB and J, are mostly Paul supporters who seem to think that every problem in this nation has the same cause. How long ago were you guys supporting GWB and this war? Did you vote for GWB? Were you riding that wave of fake patriotism? If so, I don't think anyone is in a position to judge those who still believe in this war.

Unlike most, I opposed this war from day one. I KNEW Bush sucked on immigration back in 04, when most thought he was a good American with traditional values, and cared for our security. The war is a non-sequitur IMO. Lefties oppose it, Libertarians oppose it, Buchananesque nationalists opposes it. There is no uniformity of opinion as to exactly what this war represents, who it favors, and how it effects our nation.

Concentrate on the border, not the war.

Originally Posted by Pistov

Originally Posted by usanevada

The Dems really were stupid

Rudi should have been their guy

Actually it is quite cunning... If it is Rudy VS any Dem.. they are still defacto winners..

Excellent Point. They're also trying to shove Bloomberg into the race as an independent. If this is a win-win-win, I just don't know what is?

No question, Hunter is great on this issue, and I wish he was making a surge, rather than John McAmnesty or Huckabee. Who knows, maybe he will but it better be soon.

Note, Romney has been upgraded to "good" in the "No amnesty" (attrition through enforcement) pledge. Huckabee is "fair."

http://www.betterimmigration.com/candid ... _gop1.html

I like Hunter, second to Ron Paul, but I just dont see Hunter rising - I mean in Virginia he isnt even going to be on the ballot. He didnt collect enough signatures. There are probably others states where he is not on. Its hard to rise up when people have to write your name in.