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    NYPD stats: 70% of shooting suspects in first half of 2013 were black

    NYPD stats: 70% of shooting suspects in first half of 2013 were black

    Data collected during the first six months of the year also reveal that 74% of the city's shooting victims were black, and an additional 21.5% were Hispanic. NYPD top cop Raymond Kelly has used similar numbers to justify stop-and-frisk, while black community activists say the frustrating statistics reflect the stark reality of economics in poorer neighborhoods.

    BY THOMAS TRACY / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2013, 10:51 PM

    MARC A. HERMANN FOR NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

    NYPD statistics on the first six months of the year show that 74% of the city's 567 shooting victims were black, and 21.5% were Hispanic.


    If you're black, you are almost 25 times more likely to be shot in New York City than a white person — and you are also more likely to be arrested for pulling a trigger, alarming new NYPD statistics show.

    Data collected during the first six months of the year reveal 74% of the city’s 567 shooting victims were black. An additional 21.5% were Hispanic. Less than 3% of shooting victims were white, according to the report.

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    Blacks also accounted for the majority — about 70% — of the 222 people arrested for shooting someone during the first half of 2013, according to the NYPD’s Crime and Enforcement Activity report.



    Black community activists said the frustrating statistics, which have barely fluctuated since 2009, tell the stark stories of economics in poorer neighborhoods and the NYPD’s laser-like focus on communities of color.

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    “It’s all a battle between the haves and the have-nots,” said Tony Herbert, president of the National Action Network’s Brooklyn East Chapter. “In the end, it’s survival of the fittest, and there are some who want to bring weapons into the mix. That’s what it comes down to.”

    Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has used similar statistics to defend stop-and-frisk, claiming cops stop more people in minority communities not because of their racial makeup, but because more crimes happen there.

    PEARL GABEL/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

    Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly (pictured) has used similar statistics to defend the NYPD's use of stop-and-frisk in minority communities.

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    “Last year, 97% of all shooting victims were black or Hispanic and reside in low-income neighborhoods,” Kelly recently said as he lashed out against Judge Shira Scheindlin’s decision that stop-and-frisk was unconstitutional and appointed a monitor to oversee the program — a reform put on hold after the city appealed. “There were more stops with suspicious activity in neighborhoods with higher crime because that’s where the crime is.”

    The six-month report also shows blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be the victims of murder, rape, robbery, and assault — and to be arrested for committing those violent felonies — than whites.

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    The six-month report also shows blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be the victims of murder, rape, robbery and assault — and to be arrested for committing these violent felonies — than whites.

    Blacks compose 25.5% of the city’s residents, according to the 2010 census. Non-Hispanic whites make up 33.3%, while Hispanics and Latinos make up 28.6% and Asians 12.7%.

    The only crimes that saw more whites victimized were larcenies, both grand and petty, which include pickpocketing, credit card fraud and theft of more than $1,000 in property, according to the report. Yet about 50% of the people arrested for grand larceny and 45.8% of those charged with petty larceny were black, the report shows.

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    Blacks also account for more than 55% of those who cops stopped and frisked, the report said. Hispanics constituted 29% of those stopped and frisked. “Many of us have struggled with crimes in our own communities, but clearly we have to question the records,” the Rev. Al Sharpton told the Daily News on Tuesday. “It’s no surprise that you get more results in a community you are concentrating on.”

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    As of Monday, seven people have been killed by the police. Eight people were killed by cops in 2010, which is considered an 'all-time low,' according to one police source.


    The NYPD’s report comes on the heels of news that the city is poised to end 2013 with the lowest number of fatal police shootings in four decades.

    Seven people have been shot and killed by police as of Monday, a number the city hasn’t approached since 2010, when eight people were fatally shot by cops — an “all-time low” according to one police source.

    Last year, 16 fatal shootings by police were reported. That number was near 1998’s tally, when 19 people lost their lives to police bullets, according to the NYPD’s Annual Firearm Discharge Report.
    With Rocco Parascandola


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    “It’s all a battle between the haves and the have-nots,” said Tony Herbert, president of the National Action Network’s Brooklyn East Chapter.
    There's a kernel of truth in Herbert's statement.

    Most people act today with a view toward the future. So, for example, if someone is annoying at work, most people will not attack that person. What they will do is think about their family, their bills, or their retirement. Thinking about those things presumes that people believe that they do in fact have a future.

    Unfortunately, many black Americans have concluded - probably correctly - that they do not have a future. So if someone annoys them, they act in the present, to remove the source of the irritation. Unemployment is so high is their communities and so many of the adult males are either in prison or on parole, that there is a severe absence of role models. So no jobs today, no hope for the future, and boom! The irritation is removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vistalad View Post
    There's a kernel of truth in Herbert's statement.

    Most people act today with a view toward the future. So, for example, if someone is annoying at work, most people will not attack that person. What they will do is think about their family, their bills, or their retirement. Thinking about those things presumes that people believe that they do in fact have a future.

    Unfortunately, many black Americans have concluded - probably correctly - that they do not have a future. So if someone annoys them, they act in the present, to remove the source of the irritation. Unemployment is so high is their communities and so many of the adult males are either in prison or on parole, that there is a severe absence of role models. So no jobs today, no hope for the future, and boom! The irritation is removed.
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    That is part of the issue but morals, values , standards all come into play, no father in the home is a large factor while government continues to support in a big way single parents it does hurt our society, the anything is OK no discipline society is having a huge affect with all races but it seems to manifest it's self with violence in the black community.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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